California Delegates Boo Speakers At The Mention Of Uniting To Elect Clinton

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Michael Honda (D-CA) were among the speakers who were booed. The crowd began protesting whenever uniting to elect Clinton was mentioned, Roll Call reported..

Some delegates also began chanting, "Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!" during Rep. Barbara Lee's (D-CA) speech, according to the report, and a sign supporting Sanders was thrust into Pelosi's face.

"I don't consider it a discourtesy even if it is intended as one," the minority leader reportedly said.

The uproar comes after it was revealed in leaked internal emails posted online Friday by Wikileaks that some DNC officials had potentially plotted against Sanders' campaign. DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who announced Sunday that she'd resign after the convention is over, was also booed Monday morning at a breakfast for the Florida delegation.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/california-delegates-boo-over-uniting-clinton

[MichiganVote]

1. So much for democracy. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

8. Would it be better to tell them to sit down and shaddup?

Democracy is messy. Deal with it.

[Zynx]

12. Yes, actually. It isn't appropriate to always express your view at every single moment.

There are standards of politeness that have to be honored for the system to function. Our institutions aren't strong enough for people to behave however they want at all times.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

32. Okay. Democracy when it's appropriate. Right?

[Zynx]

48. There are standards and norms that have to be accepted for the institution to work.

One is respecting the rights of speakers in the room when they are called upon to speak. You don't just endlessly shout down people.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

56. Perhaps they are pissed about something.

Something that beeds to be addressed and not glossed over.

[Zynx]

60. Do they realize that behaving like buffoons pushes people away from their positions?

Of course not. They're people who think the protests of the DNC in 1968 hurt Nixon. Of course, they elected him.

[Laser102]

95. Yes. I'm sick and tired of everyone trying to justify utter rudeness and lack of courtesy.

[Statistical]

100. What is your home address?

I would like to voice my opinion in your living room at 3:30 in the morning at the top of my lungs. I am sure you will welcome that right?

Or maybe there is a time and place for everything.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

102. Ah, a personal threat?

[Statistical]

103. A threat? WTF.

More like a hypothetical point. Someone being disruptive at an inappropriate place and time is a personal threat? Does that apply the convention protesters as well or just me?

[snooper2]

106. no, a personal threat would be to take a bernie doll away

LOL

[geologic]

69. ...

[SunSeeker]

85. It is the folks booing who can't handle democracy.

Their candidate lost. Hillary won, by a lot. They refuse to respect the result of the democratic process. That is deplorable, especially since it plays into Trump's and Putin's hands.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

90. Perhaps they should be sent to an island.

Or better yet...keep on rubbing their noses in it. That'll help.

[SunSeeker]

93. Perhaps they should respect democracy. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

99. LOL!

[csziggy]

91. They can sit down and shut up during the opening prayer

To start booing and chanting "Bernie, Bernie" during the opening prayer is completely out of line. Fuck those assholes for their lack of respect.

Senator Sanders has told his supporters to support Secretary Clinton. If they don't want to so that, then they should STOP using his name as their way of disrupting the proceedings.

Anarchy is not democracy. These few remaining die hards are pushing for anarchy and have nothing to do with democracy. Democracy has elected Hillary Clinton as the nominee for the Democratic Party.

[apcalc]

2. Has Putin succeeded in stirring this up?

[elleng]

7. No need for putin to do so.

[uawchild]

9. Putin putin Pootie Poot WROTE THE LEAKED DNC EMAILS, yes it was Putin Putin putin Pootie Poot Putin

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Yeah, its all his fault. I blame Putin too. Who else could be responsible for dissension over disappointing DNC emails?

WHO wrote THOSE emails?

Putin? yes, must be... lol

Let's all focus on PUTIN. Pootie Poot. The Pootster. The Pootie man.

PUTIN WROTE THE LEAKED DNC EMAILS. That much is obvious. Who else would say those things about Bernie?

Only PUTIN. Putin is to blame, so I blame Putin.

[apcalc]

21. Yes, with Wikileaks and Trump supporter child rapist Assange...

At this time, leaking emails right as the convention is to begin...
And the media is fixated on this.....

Yes, I'd say he has succeeded....

[uawchild]

62. you are so right! FOCUS ON PUTIN, pootie plot, he's to blame!

It's not as if someone else actually WROTE those leaked DNC emails.

Our outrage should be focussed on Putin. Putin is to blame. Pootie Poot.

Putin Putin putin putin...
Putin Putin putin putin...
Putin Putin putin putin...
Putin Putin putin putin...

[PaulaFarrell]

81. child rapist?

Now THAT needs some backing up. You know, just because you don't like someone, you can't throw any old aspersion around that you like.

Its strange, not half an hour ag o my daughter and I were discussing why people are so nasty these days. You have provided a prime example of someone throwing really nasty shit just because someone has different political beliefs than you do.

[apcalc]

82. You are correct

I stand corrected

Alleged child rapist and serial molester....

Meanwhile , a Trump supporter and convenient Wikileaker...

[PaulaFarrell]

83. back it up

All I could find googling 'assange child rapist' was a reference to him helping a paedophile fight deportation. Worse/better than hrc helping a guilty rapist go free? Especially when you consider that a paediphile in a Somalia is essentially free whereas in the uk we could at least hope for supervision.

[apcalc]

88. I got MULTIPLE references to it when I googled.

[PaulaFarrell]

96. so share n/t

[snooper2]

107. .

[apcalc]

89. YUP possibly just that....

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/25/fbi-suspects-russia-hacked-dnc-u-s-officials-say-it-was-to-elect-donald-trump.html?via=mobile&source=twitter

[apcalc]

97. FBI investigating Russian connection

[uawchild]

98. Putin WROTE the leaked DNC emails?!?

No he didn't.

The FBI is just investigating WHO the LEAKER/WHISTLEBLOWER is.

No one disputes the emails are real and written by the DNC.

The Putin Pootie Poot putin stuff is just to distract people who are angry over those emails.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

75. Has he?

If the party leadership is smart then it better hurry up and engage the dissenters...in private if necessarry.

Otherwise the dissenters will engage them publicly.

[stopbush]

3. Assholes. And I mean the protestors.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. Yeah. They should be kicked out if the party.

[stopbush]

23. They should support the party and the noninee of the party.

Period.

The party dodged a major bullet by not nominating Sanders.

[Android3.14]

49. Is it a "dodge" to actively plot to undermine the democratic process by violating your own rules?

Rather than dodging a bullet, it looks to any outside observer that the DNC branch of the party just had the political gun they pointed at Bernie blow up in their face.

[stopbush]

64. I seriously doubt that 2 emails out of 20,000

revealed long after the primaries ended is what gave Hillary a margin of victory over Sanders of 4-million votes.

Sanders ran a crappy, myopic campaign. His message was roundly rejected by the vast majority of Ds. He needed no bias within the DNC to lose as badly as he did. He did that on his own, with a major assist from Weaver.

[Android3.14]

86. Not going to fight over the primary result

That's a site rule.

This reminds me of people who become angry at the local paper for publishing the story about a drunk driver, as if the public humiliation is because the journalist wrote the story, when actually the news story is the fallout, because the idiot chose to drive drunk.

Clueless people think the the problem is the email release. It isn't. That is just a consequence of the actual problems.

The real problems are the ongoing situational ethics and the decision by the DNC to undermine Sanders' campaign. The consequence is the stain the DNC's actions have left on Clinton's chances.

There is no reason to celebrate this, as the DNC may have paved the path for a Trump victory.

[redstatebluegirl]

26. Many of them are not part of the party. They are independents.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

63. Perhaps they feel they are only needed around election time.

[Maven]

50. Apparently they don't consider themselves in the party. nt

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

66. Perhaps they don't believe that the party is the same

party that used to support them?

[Maven]

67. Or they simply can't accept that others in the party have just as much of a right as they do

to express their preferences, and didn't agree with them?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

73. They are the party's to lose.

Cautionary tale and all.

[Maven]

77. The people in that room are already lost.

There is no point in trying to appease them. They don't even listen to their own candidate.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

84. The reed that does not bend in the wind breaks.

[Blue Idaho]

4. "I am not a member of an organized political party."

I am a Democrat...

[Hekate]

47. That got old about the time we ended up with Bush and Cheney in the White House

It was humorous when Will Rogers said it in 1932 -- 84 years ago. It's not funny any more.

[Lochloosa]

55. Not Funny At All.

[Blue Idaho]

80. Not funny

But it appears to be true...

[elleng]

5. Here we go again.

[CrowCityDem]

6. If they have no respect for anyone, why was I supposed to placate their hurt feelings?

[merrily]

10. Wow. This year makes the films I've seen of conventions in the 1950s look tame--and Cosa Nostra

was supposedly involved those. I sure don't see the point of booing someone like Barbara Lee, no matter what you think of Hillary, Bernie or Trump.

[bluedye33139]

14. Maybe to make the fault lines permanent?

[merrily]

22. I was referring to both conventions. However, I do think

the goal of the rich and/or powerful is one big moderate party, with the right of the Republican Party cut loose, along with the left of the Democratic Party, neither having the numbers to win, ever. I know I am not alone in that as I have seen it speculated about elsewhere--and I do not mean JPR. I think, though, that they intended to get there without this happening along the way.

I am floored. (no pun intended).

[southern_belle]

16. +1 n/t

[bluedye33139]

11. I'm hoping Clinton supporters remain adults

It's hard to be adult when children are throwing tantrums. In psychology, advice to parents is "Don't argue with a child because you lose five years of maturity every minute listening to their nonsense." Democrats, remain strong against the outside threat to the party!

[southern_belle]

17. +1 n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Sure, as long as you don't read their emails.

[Loki Liesmith]

27. So do you support Hillary for president?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. Yay for the purity pledge!

[olddad56]

61. well, if you don't, you are supporting Donald Hitler. We will see how that works out for you.

[merrily]

35. .

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

41. Something I said?

[merrily]

43. I can't hearrrrr you.

But your post made me laugh and no one should have a sense of humor about this very serious stuff.

I blame you.

[redstatebluegirl]

29. Thanks for the reminder :-). I have been trying to talk sense to people who don't want to hear it.

[deurbano]

13. Chanting during Barbara Lee's speech? Weird choice.

[bluedye33139]

42. Perhaps she's a "corporatist"? Maybe being part of the Congressional Black Caucus offends them?

[deurbano]

54. I'm hoping they just don't know who she is... but that would mean they started paying attention to

politics about five minutes ago, which may be worse. (Given that they are actual California delegates to the Democratic convention.)

[southern_belle]

15. This is going to make us look like the RNC!

Bernie has endorsed Hillary and will speak about why Trump is definitely not the answer! These people are shooting themselves (and the country) in the foot. This is definitely counterproductive and may hand Trump the Presidency.

[Arkansas Granny]

18. I wish they would follow Bernie's lead and work toward defeating Trump.

[Democat]

19. They sound like pro Trump trolls

Not Democrats.

[FBaggins]

39. In California's delegation to the DNC convention?

That's pretty unlikely.

Trump isn't organized enough to get his own delegates selected for RNC delegations, but somehow he can get them into ours?

A far better explanation is to accept it for what it is. A large number of Democrats are pretty ticked off at our "leadership".

[Iliyah]

25. This is how Democracy works.

The Democratic Party is truly diverse.

[bluedye33139]

44. And I, for one, am not afraid to skirmish in defense of my beliefs

in the Democratic party, its magnificent history, its awesomely diverse base of support, and its freedom of conscience and belief. I have said before, I wish that Bernie had joined the party years ago so that this argument could be between Democrats and Democrats, instead of Democrats and folks who thought they could *tolerate* the party if Sanders was given all the keys to the kingdom.

[LisaM]

28. Make it stop.

Please.

[liberal N proud]

30. I guess these BSers would be happier under a Fascist Trump America

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

40. It's sad if you really believe that.

[liberal N proud]

52. What is sad, is that the we are still discussing this like Bernie has a chance

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

70. We are? Bernie has endorsed Hillary, but that doesn't mean

that some aren't still pissed at what they see as a tone-deaf party.

[liberal N proud]

71. At this point I don't blame Bernie

Just the Bernie Or Bust people who are causing the disruptions at the convention.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

76. The reed that does not bend in the wind breaks.

[yardwork]

31. Fuck them. /nt

[BlueMTexpat]

34. + a million or so! eom

[Maven]

53. Yup.

[yardwork]

58. Hi there! How you doing?

[Maven]

59. Hi! Good thanks, how are you?

Nice to see you in these turbulent times

[yardwork]

104. Very well, thanks! Good to see you here.

[BlueMTexpat]

33. If these who booed are actually

delegates to the Convention, I would venture that they are NOT Hillary delegates.

If speakers get booed for calling for unity behind the WINNER of the Dem primaries and the popular vote, then those who are booing are NOT Dems, whatever they may call themselves.

They are "trojan horse supporters" and we can - and WILL - win without them.

[RAFisher]

37. Was it really that hard to find pro-Clinton Sander voters? This is embarrassing.

I'm currently unemployed, they could have sent me. I voted for Sanders in March but I'm 100% for Clinton. Do these fucking morons not know how primaries work???

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

38. We are fucked! Completely fucked!

[geek tragedy]

45. all it takes is a few emotional children to make a scene nt

[Aristus]

51. Guess they're really looking forward to having Trump as President.

California deserves a reality-TV star...

[TeamPooka]

57. As a California voter these people are embarrassing our state. nt

[Throd]

65. This Californian is OK with it.

[TeamPooka]

68. Some people love sore losers. I guess you're one of them. nt

[Throd]

72. Some people love transparency and a fair process.

[TeamPooka]

74. Some people are going to wind up getting Trump elected president. nt

[stuffmatters]

87. This^^^ 100% If not there, where?

As a Californian and lifelong contributor to the Democratic Party, I share the feelings of those in the Ca delegation who are trying to express their frustration with the marginalization of our state in the DNC primary process. We came last in the dates, so Iowa votes more influential than ours, the largest state/economy in the country? Then the cancellation of debate before the Ca primary and the courtesy to hear the candidate's focus on Ca's most high profile concerns. (fracking & earthquakes, marijuana legalization, the preferential funding of prisons over schools, the TPP and its ISDS threat to long fought for Ca environ, labor, food protections, the unaffordability of our once and free public universities, charter schools, net neutrality) That victory for Clinton was declared the night before our election only magnified my feeling as a Ca Democrat that our votes and voices were both not important and not heard@
the DNC.

There should be changes made by the DNC to the primary process to ensure 1/6 of all Americans and the state with the largest number of democrats are represented fairly. First and foremost move up our primary date so that our votes count. Second schedule a debate before our primary. To me that's what the "boos" from many in the Ca delegation express. They are not anti Clinton/Kane...they are expressing frustration to the leadership of our party, the DNC, which minimized Ca's voices, issues and our votes.

If not there, where?

[liberal N proud]

79. Do you want an early welcome to the fascist states of america

This crap will get us there quickly.

[David__77]

78. My friend is a Sanders delegate from the SF Bay Area!

I'm very proud of her!

[hollowdweller]

92. DNC plotting against Bernie and talking about it on email was a huge mistake.

I have a feeling we are going to see a LOT more phone use in the future.

At about the time that a lot of people were starting to get with the team this came out.

Clinton was likely to win anyway and like the private server emails it seems to have had exactly the opposite effect than was intended.

I hope these people can be brought back in line.

Feel like Putin is really laughing now. My concern is an email drop of the deleted private server ones later in the campaign.

[tenderfoot]

94. The event is totally being trolled from the right.

I find interesting that many haven't figured that out yet.

smh.

[kestrel91316]

101. I noticed that the protesters drowned out the black speakers but not the white ones.

This tells me they are loyal to Trump and not Bernie.

[Odin2005]

105. I supported Bernie in the primaries and this shit is fucking EMBARRASSING.

A lot of these people are just the garden variety of idiots who vote for anyone who is anti-establishment, regardless of actual policy views. They go from Ron Paul to Sanders to Stein or Trump without giving a shit about actual issues.