Bin Laden's son threatens revenge for father's assassination - monitor

That's okay Hamza, we've got plenty of Predator drones, Tomahawk missiles, 2000-pound bombs, and Green Berets for your sorry ass.

Because murdering people solves eveything.

is it removes an asshole before they can carry out such a threat, granted I would prefer they find and arrest these assholes and put them on trial but that's not always possible sadly.

is another person's father/brother/son etc, and then there are the dozens of innocent people who invariably die because they were "in the way". There families will understand.

But by all means, keep up on killing.

Nixon, Kissinger, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, Blair, et al, the killings are unlikely to cease.

Bush was ever in office and the intel shows they were also planning 9/11 before he was in office as well so you cant blame Bush for inciting them.

I think Poppy Bush was quite instrumental in radicalizing and arming the forerunner to the Taliban against the Soviets back in the 80s. Poppy decided to invade Iraq the first time around, then stationed troops in Saudi Arabia permanently, which is what set off people like bin Laden on their crusade.

BushCo sanctioned torture and other war crimes which drives these people to this day. Obama has blood on his hands due to his continuation and expansion of Bush's murder-by-drone program.

We have rained far more misery and death down upon these people than they have ever inflicted on us. As long as we keep it up, they will keep coming after us.

By Reagan and Poppy Bush. That led to 9/11.

http://www.salon.com/2015/11/17/we_created_islamic_extremism_those_blaming_islam_for_isis_would_have_supported_osama_bin_laden_in_the_80s/

have inherited that grudge. So we kill them, and their children want revenge, and seek to kill us.

And on, and on the cycle goes.

and I doubt that Bonnie (Bin Laden) would be so willing to forgive and forget with hugs all around if the US tried to be like Kate, in fact I suspect Bin Ladens son would be more like Missy.

That doesn't make what he said any less true.

After all is said and done, people eventually have to sit down and do what they have been avoiding: Talk to each other.

The question is how many people have to die before that happens? Each person that dies, perpetuates the violence. And these little wars can spin out of control unexpectedly. One day you just killing a pompous royal, heir to a dying monarchy, then a few weeks later people start dying by the thousands, then the hundreds of thousands, and then the millions. Take a twenty year break, and go at it one more time, this time add mass extermination and nuclear weapons.

Sooner or later, one of these little adventure will be the next Pricep at Sarajevo, and then we'll START with nuclear weapons.

and would be willing to atleast listen but he would have to probably agree not to make anymore threats until said talks were over.


EDIT: Also I just got done rewatching that episode about an 30 before you posted the video lol

(illegally) Iraq and have committed war crimes? We are the people with the flowery ideals about life and liberty, shouldn't we be the ones to act the adult and stop killing and start talking?

Actually, the Doctor's speech reminded me of this one, which has lots of echos of arguments I have heard in the last 15 years about the Middle East in general, and Iraq/Iran in particular.

for good the varies militia leaders just need to stop trying to use weapons and bombings to destabilize the current Iraqi government and just use the Teaparty method and get some uneducated suckers to vote them into office.

and when the U.S. is backing with troops (no matter how few) money and weapons those viewed as illegitimate by these people, the violence will not stop. If we want the things to improve in Iraq we need to get out, stop bombing them, and stop selling weapons to anyone with cash.

Again, we are the "civilized" people with high ideals and morals. We NEVER should have invaded, but we did and all we did was make the situation worse. It will never improve until we get out. Completely.

If France had led an EU Coalition Force into this country in 2001 to "force regime change" after George W. Bush was illegally appointed president by the Supreme Court, I might welcome them at first. But once they bomb my home to rubble, destroy the economy, kill my family and hall me off to prison because my neighbor, who doesn't like me, got paid for turning me in as a "Bush Supporter", where I am tortured and humiliated; what is my attitude going to be when I get a chance express myself? When all that I love and care about is taken from me and I have nothing less to lose, how will I lash out at my oppressors? What weapons will I avail myself to when I am out-manned and out-gunned?

The most dangerous people in the world, are those with nothing left to lose. We anger them out our peril.

Okay, seems a pretty dangerous standard to establish. Wait, now someone will tell me it is about the credibility of the threat, but then who decides what is credible?

The more murders we commit, the more people who will want our blood. The cycle will NEVER end.

render having to use a drone on him a moot point entirely but I somehow dont think he will be choosing that option.

turns himself in to The International Court of Human Rights.

Killing folks absolutely solves some problems... Certainly not all...

people to commit the most gruesome crimes, murder being just the beginning.

... that even the use of a common legal term (near universal) is a step too far?

What is your alternative? Just use any word to describe your feelings and hope that no one notices?

which is what happens when someone kills someone you value with malice, or with complete indifference. And then there is "murder" the legalistic principle the people doing the killing will use to tell you that what they did isn't "murder", because the way they interpret the word, doesn't meet the definition.

Another example would "torture" What you call torture, they call "enhanced interrogation", and they get very angry when you dare to call it torture, since say, waterboarding, does not meet the legal criteria for torture.

So, we don't "murder innocent people with a drone", we "service a target with high energy kinetic ordinance, which inadvertently resulted in collateral damage during the pursuit of a high value person of interest."

To the families of the dead, it seems the same, but that's just because they don't appreciate the subtlety of the U.S. legal system.

It really does solve a few problems.

And BTW your dad was taken out for being a no good killer.

son seems to be aware the family business killed the old man and quite possibly do the same to him....

and hopefully soon

Was a murderer, who used his faith as a reason to cause unbelievable carnage. If you chose to follow in his footsteps, maybe we can bury you in the same sea.

seeks revenge. That means the 9-11 family members who lost their loved ones should wipe out the entire bin Laden clan.

trying to stay out of the spotlight, not calling attention to myself. Hope this is all worth it for him.

how great is that?

I mean with just a few of those in orbit you could have the ability to potentially take out any single target in the world.

I read about a concept the Department of Defense is either working on or strongly considering. The basic idea was an orbital platform equipped with missile-sized but explosively inert rods of tungsten-carbide (or it may have been just tungsten). They'd release the rod in such a way that Earth's gravity would pull it down, and of course they'd use computers to make certain the rod struck a precise spot. Given the mass of the rod and the speed at which it would be traveling when it struck the ground, it'd be comparable to the impact of a large meteorite in explosive force, but completely without any kind of radioactive fallout. A kinder, gentler ICBM, if you will.

I remember being more than a little amused at the nickname they gave this proposed weapons system: Rods from God.

would be confined as much as possible since it would be considered a weapon of mass destruction if it could take out a large target like an entire neighborhood and by treaty that's a no no.

The Rods from God were suggested as a way to deal with Al Qaeda hidey-holes in the mountainous regions in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Conventional bunker-busters only work so well, and nuclear bunker-busters are obviously something you don't want to use regularly.

The kinetic energy from the impact of a missile-sized hunk of tungsten would pretty much eliminate anyone hiding underground in its area of impact, or at the very least collapse the cave system and render it no longer accessible. I'd imagine the concept could be adapted with smaller projectiles in order to, say, collapse a single building without harming nearby structures the way explosives ordinarily would.

That said, seems an awful lot like overkill, using an orbital superweapon to take out some guys hunkered down in a cave in the middle of nowhere.

vs them being in a heavily populated city any day of the week as in the city there is a far higher risk of killing an innocent bystander than with them cowering in a cave.

if you don't use the orbital superweapon, you can't get Congress to pony up for more of them.

used at all I would call that a win if that were to happen for everyone except the people who build such things.

he is safe for about 20 years, thats how long it will take for the CIA to find him.

his head up.

Where's he been all this time?

He was an adorable little tyke 15 years ago. He's 25 now, plenty old enough to use his grampa's millions to hire suicide chumps

Changing the reason justifies a press release?

See how clear he says, "derail the train"?

who years ago laughed and said America does brave and effective ops (like the one that brought his dad to justice) only in fantasy movies?

If he's looking to fight oppression, he should take stock of how fundy Islam treats people in the countries he mentioned. It just wants to lay a massive bummer on everyone. Fight the real oppressor.

He was alleged to have been armed with a rifle at the time he was shot, if I recall.

Should be interesting when he gets the attention he's looking for.

which is why he left Saddam alive at the end of the Gulf War.

Second best to a live boogey is the SON of the boogey man.

This is the neocons clearing their throat before they ride back into town with Hillary.

Unfortunately. Isis is making Al-Qaeda irrelevant in the U.S but fortunately Isis is now relevant to the U.S. I wish these groups would go away.