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Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:00 AM

 

Bin Laden's son threatens revenge for father's assassination - monitor

Source: Reuters

Sun Jul 10, 2016 2:47pm IST

The son of slain al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has threatened revenge against the United States for assassinating his father, according to an audio message posted online.

Hamza bin Laden promised to continue the global militant group's fight against the United States and its allies in the 21-minute speech entitled "We Are All Osama," according to the SITE Intelligence Group.

"We will continue striking you and targeting you in your country and abroad in response to your oppression of the people of Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia and the rest of the Muslim lands that did not survive your oppression," Hamza said.

"As for the revenge by the Islamic nation for Sheikh Osama, may Allah have mercy on him, it is not revenge for Osama the person but it is revenge for those who defended Islam."

Read more: http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-security-qaeda-idINKCN0ZQ0A6



The son? I thought OBL had twenty or more!

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Night Watchman Jul 2016 OP
rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #1
jmowreader Jul 2016 #2
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #10
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #15
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #17
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #18
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #38
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #40
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #42
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #45
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #46
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #48
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #49
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #50
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #53
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #54
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #55
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #56
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #58
Blandocyte Jul 2016 #33
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #39
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #41
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #43
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #44
TipTok Jul 2016 #23
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #37
TipTok Jul 2016 #61
Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #62
AngryAmish Jul 2016 #57
Botany Jul 2016 #3
dembotoz Jul 2016 #4
Soxfan58 Jul 2016 #5
The Wizard Jul 2016 #6
Cryptoad Jul 2016 #7
geek tragedy Jul 2016 #8
LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #9
7962 Jul 2016 #11
JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #12
Kennah Jul 2016 #13
msanthrope Jul 2016 #27
Moostache Jul 2016 #14
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #16
Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #20
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #21
Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #24
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #25
Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #28
SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #34
Sand Rat Expat Jul 2016 #35
cstanleytech Jul 2016 #59
father founding Jul 2016 #19
The Second Stone Jul 2016 #22
Mz Pip Jul 2016 #26
arcane1 Jul 2016 #51
Bucky Jul 2016 #63
no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #29
mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2016 #30
Blandocyte Jul 2016 #31
Ash_F Jul 2016 #32
truthisfreedom Jul 2016 #36
GOLGO 13 Jul 2016 #47
BlueStater Jul 2016 #52
yurbud Jul 2016 #65
JCMach1 Jul 2016 #60
yurbud Jul 2016 #64
Masked Dissident Jul 2016 #66

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:08 AM

2. He is believed to have between 20 and 26 children

That's okay Hamza, we've got plenty of Predator drones, Tomahawk missiles, 2000-pound bombs, and Green Berets for your sorry ass.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:09 AM

10. Great.

 

Because murdering people solves eveything.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:52 AM

15. Of course it doesn't solve everything but it solves one specific problem which

is it removes an asshole before they can carry out such a threat, granted I would prefer they find and arrest these assholes and put them on trial but that's not always possible sadly.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:03 AM

17. Yes, but one person's asshole

 

is another person's father/brother/son etc, and then there are the dozens of innocent people who invariably die because they were "in the way". There families will understand.

But by all means, keep up on killing.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #17)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:05 AM

18. Long as you have nutjobs like the bin Laden's the killing is unlikely to stop. nt

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #18)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:42 PM

38. As long as you have nutjobs like

 

Nixon, Kissinger, Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Rice, Blair, et al, the killings are unlikely to cease.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:57 PM

40. Just to point out though that Bin Ladens group instituted attacks on the US before

Bush was ever in office and the intel shows they were also planning 9/11 before he was in office as well so you cant blame Bush for inciting them.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #40)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:14 PM

42. Which Bush?

 

I think Poppy Bush was quite instrumental in radicalizing and arming the forerunner to the Taliban against the Soviets back in the 80s. Poppy decided to invade Iraq the first time around, then stationed troops in Saudi Arabia permanently, which is what set off people like bin Laden on their crusade.

BushCo sanctioned torture and other war crimes which drives these people to this day. Obama has blood on his hands due to his continuation and expansion of Bush's murder-by-drone program.

We have rained far more misery and death down upon these people than they have ever inflicted on us. As long as we keep it up, they will keep coming after us.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #42)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:29 PM

45. Either actually, Sr had been out of office for years before 9/11 and jr barely had started. nt

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #46)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:11 PM

48. Clearly the man held a grudge to his grave. nt

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #48)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:27 PM

49. And now his son, (or sons, and/or other relatives)

 

have inherited that grudge. So we kill them, and their children want revenge, and seek to kill us.

And on, and on the cycle goes.



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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #49)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:46 PM

50. Unfortunately this isnt a TV show

and I doubt that Bonnie (Bin Laden) would be so willing to forgive and forget with hugs all around if the US tried to be like Kate, in fact I suspect Bin Ladens son would be more like Missy.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #50)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:23 PM

53. No, it is not a TV show

 

That doesn't make what he said any less true.

After all is said and done, people eventually have to sit down and do what they have been avoiding: Talk to each other.

The question is how many people have to die before that happens? Each person that dies, perpetuates the violence. And these little wars can spin out of control unexpectedly. One day you just killing a pompous royal, heir to a dying monarchy, then a few weeks later people start dying by the thousands, then the hundreds of thousands, and then the millions. Take a twenty year break, and go at it one more time, this time add mass extermination and nuclear weapons.

Sooner or later, one of these little adventure will be the next Pricep at Sarajevo, and then we'll START with nuclear weapons.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #53)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:26 PM

54. Well if he wants to talk I am willing to bet the US would agree to a sit down

and would be willing to atleast listen but he would have to probably agree not to make anymore threats until said talks were over.


EDIT: Also I just got done rewatching that episode about an 30 before you posted the video lol

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #54)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:34 PM

55. But why would he be willing to talk when U.S. forces still occupy

 

(illegally) Iraq and have committed war crimes? We are the people with the flowery ideals about life and liberty, shouldn't we be the ones to act the adult and stop killing and start talking?

Actually, the Doctor's speech reminded me of this one, which has lots of echos of arguments I have heard in the last 15 years about the Middle East in general, and Iraq/Iran in particular.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #55)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:48 PM

56. The US troops have almost been pulled out a number of times though and if jr wants them out

for good the varies militia leaders just need to stop trying to use weapons and bombings to destabilize the current Iraqi government and just use the Teaparty method and get some uneducated suckers to vote them into office.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:14 PM

58. Almost isn't enough

 

and when the U.S. is backing with troops (no matter how few) money and weapons those viewed as illegitimate by these people, the violence will not stop. If we want the things to improve in Iraq we need to get out, stop bombing them, and stop selling weapons to anyone with cash.

Again, we are the "civilized" people with high ideals and morals. We NEVER should have invaded, but we did and all we did was make the situation worse. It will never improve until we get out. Completely.

If France had led an EU Coalition Force into this country in 2001 to "force regime change" after George W. Bush was illegally appointed president by the Supreme Court, I might welcome them at first. But once they bomb my home to rubble, destroy the economy, kill my family and hall me off to prison because my neighbor, who doesn't like me, got paid for turning me in as a "Bush Supporter", where I am tortured and humiliated; what is my attitude going to be when I get a chance express myself? When all that I love and care about is taken from me and I have nothing less to lose, how will I lash out at my oppressors? What weapons will I avail myself to when I am out-manned and out-gunned?

The most dangerous people in the world, are those with nothing left to lose. We anger them out our peril.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #15)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:52 PM

39. So, it is permissible for a person to be killed simply for a threat?

 

Okay, seems a pretty dangerous standard to establish. Wait, now someone will tell me it is about the credibility of the threat, but then who decides what is credible?

The more murders we commit, the more people who will want our blood. The cycle will NEVER end.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:06 PM

41. Actually I prefer that Bin Ladens son turn himself into the police as it would

render having to use a drone on him a moot point entirely but I somehow dont think he will be choosing that option.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #41)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:16 PM

43. He'll do that the day after Dick Cheney

 

turns himself in to The International Court of Human Rights.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #43)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:27 PM

44. I kinda doubt we will see either of those events happen sadly. nt

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:00 PM

23. Murder is a legal term with a specific defition...

 

Killing folks absolutely solves some problems... Certainly not all...

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Response to TipTok (Reply #23)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:41 PM

37. Hiding behind legalism is what allows

 

people to commit the most gruesome crimes, murder being just the beginning.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #37)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

61. Are you suggesting...

 

... that even the use of a common legal term (near universal) is a step too far?

What is your alternative? Just use any word to describe your feelings and hope that no one notices?

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Response to TipTok (Reply #61)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 07:47 AM

62. There's "murder"

 

which is what happens when someone kills someone you value with malice, or with complete indifference. And then there is "murder" the legalistic principle the people doing the killing will use to tell you that what they did isn't "murder", because the way they interpret the word, doesn't meet the definition.

Another example would "torture" What you call torture, they call "enhanced interrogation", and they get very angry when you dare to call it torture, since say, waterboarding, does not meet the legal criteria for torture.

So, we don't "murder innocent people with a drone", we "service a target with high energy kinetic ordinance, which inadvertently resulted in collateral damage during the pursuit of a high value person of interest."

To the families of the dead, it seems the same, but that's just because they don't appreciate the subtlety of the U.S. legal system.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:55 PM

57. Ask Hulagu.

 

It really does solve a few problems.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:44 AM

3. Congrats OBL Jr. you have now become somebody's job

And BTW your dad was taken out for being a no good killer.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:59 AM

4. always nice to see the offspring take up the family buisiness

son seems to be aware the family business killed the old man and quite possibly do the same to him....

and hopefully soon

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 06:08 AM

5. Your father

Was a murderer, who used his faith as a reason to cause unbelievable carnage. If you chose to follow in his footsteps, maybe we can bury you in the same sea.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:21 AM

6. So the son of a mass murderer

seeks revenge. That means the 9-11 family members who lost their loved ones should wipe out the entire bin Laden clan.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:23 AM

7. Take a number and get in line.,,,,,,,,,

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:49 AM

8. Because he was totally not hostile before nt

 

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:49 AM

9. If I were Hamza, I think I would be

trying to stay out of the spotlight, not calling attention to myself. Hope this is all worth it for him.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:14 AM

11. I cant believe the 1st ten posts we're all on the same page!

 

how great is that?

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:25 AM

12. Now he'll never get off the no fly list.

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Response to JonathanRackham (Reply #12)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:34 AM

13. Praise Allah he can still buy a gun n/t

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Response to Kennah (Reply #13)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:19 PM

27. Fuck me if you didn't just win the Internets today. nt

 

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:47 AM

14. So, suicide by drone is a thing now? n/t

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Response to Moostache (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:00 AM

16. Might not even need drones though. Imagine the possibilities for orbital railguns?

I mean with just a few of those in orbit you could have the ability to potentially take out any single target in the world.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:57 AM

20. Some years ago...

I read about a concept the Department of Defense is either working on or strongly considering. The basic idea was an orbital platform equipped with missile-sized but explosively inert rods of tungsten-carbide (or it may have been just tungsten). They'd release the rod in such a way that Earth's gravity would pull it down, and of course they'd use computers to make certain the rod struck a precise spot. Given the mass of the rod and the speed at which it would be traveling when it struck the ground, it'd be comparable to the impact of a large meteorite in explosive force, but completely without any kind of radioactive fallout. A kinder, gentler ICBM, if you will.

I remember being more than a little amused at the nickname they gave this proposed weapons system: Rods from God.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #20)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 12:50 PM

21. Well in this case I was thinking more along the lines of something smaller so it's impact

would be confined as much as possible since it would be considered a weapon of mass destruction if it could take out a large target like an entire neighborhood and by treaty that's a no no.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:02 PM

24. I think the original idea was to replace the bunker-busters, nuclear and otherwise.

The Rods from God were suggested as a way to deal with Al Qaeda hidey-holes in the mountainous regions in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Conventional bunker-busters only work so well, and nuclear bunker-busters are obviously something you don't want to use regularly.

The kinetic energy from the impact of a missile-sized hunk of tungsten would pretty much eliminate anyone hiding underground in its area of impact, or at the very least collapse the cave system and render it no longer accessible. I'd imagine the concept could be adapted with smaller projectiles in order to, say, collapse a single building without harming nearby structures the way explosives ordinarily would.

That said, seems an awful lot like overkill, using an orbital superweapon to take out some guys hunkered down in a cave in the middle of nowhere.

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:16 PM

25. Ya but if I had a choice I would choose taking them out while they are hunkered down in a cave

vs them being in a heavily populated city any day of the week as in the city there is a far higher risk of killing an innocent bystander than with them cowering in a cave.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #25)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:28 PM

28. Agree 100% NT

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Response to Sand Rat Expat (Reply #24)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:26 PM

34. Yes, but

if you don't use the orbital superweapon, you can't get Congress to pony up for more of them.

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Response to SwankyXomb (Reply #34)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:40 PM

35. A very cynical, albeit true, point well taken. NT

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Response to SwankyXomb (Reply #34)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 10:54 PM

59. For that to happen though the world would have to change to one where such a thing doesnt have to be

used at all I would call that a win if that were to happen for everyone except the people who build such things.

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Response to Moostache (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:28 AM

19. long life

 

he is safe for about 20 years, thats how long it will take for the CIA to find him.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 12:59 PM

22. Hamza gonna be shredded chedder when he pokes

 

his head up.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:18 PM

26. 15 years later?

Where's he been all this time?

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #26)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 08:52 PM

51. Like when a sitcom starts getting stale and they write in a new relative, or neighbor, etc.

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #51)

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:03 AM

63. Cousin Oliver bin Laden

He was an adorable little tyke 15 years ago. He's 25 now, plenty old enough to use his grampa's millions to hire suicide chumps

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 02:37 PM

29. Al Qaeda was going to continue revenge against the US even if Bin Laden lived.

Changing the reason justifies a press release?

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:12 PM

30. That's My Boy

See how clear he says, "derail the train"?

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 04:45 PM

31. Is this the same son

who years ago laughed and said America does brave and effective ops (like the one that brought his dad to justice) only in fantasy movies?

If he's looking to fight oppression, he should take stock of how fundy Islam treats people in the countries he mentioned. It just wants to lay a massive bummer on everyone. Fight the real oppressor.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 04:46 PM

32. I understand that it was not an assassination

He was alleged to have been armed with a rifle at the time he was shot, if I recall.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 05:43 PM

36. Must be suffering from a lack of attention.

Should be interesting when he gets the attention he's looking for.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 07:48 PM

47. Let's reunite father & son as quickly as possible Mr. President.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 09:19 PM

52. His father was killed five years ago. Why did it take this goofball so long to respond? n/t

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Response to BlueStater (Reply #52)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:32 PM

65. Somebody didn't listen to Papa Bush: you can't kill a boogey man twice

which is why he left Saddam alive at the end of the Gulf War.

Second best to a live boogey is the SON of the boogey man.

This is the neocons clearing their throat before they ride back into town with Hillary.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Sun Jul 10, 2016, 11:09 PM

60. I am sure somewhere out there there is a drone with his name on it...

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:29 PM

64. Either this guy is incredibly stupid or this story is fake.

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Response to Night Watchman (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:59 PM

66. Al Qaeda Needs To Put Up or Shut Up

 

Unfortunately. Isis is making Al-Qaeda irrelevant in the U.S but fortunately Isis is now relevant to the U.S. I wish these groups would go away.

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