Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:03 AM
AntiBank (1,339 posts)
Micah Xavier Johnson identified as Dallas police shooting suspect
Source: The Independent UK
A suspect involved in the Dallas police shooting has been named by US media sources as Micah Xavier Johnson. Both the Los Angeles Times and CBS News are reporting Johnson, 25, is the shooter. He allegedly has no known criminal history or links to terror groups. Five police officers were killed and seven injured after at least one sniper opened fire on police during a Black Lives Matter protest. Follow the latest updates on our live blog Dallas Police Chief David Brown said that, during a lengthy standoff with police, the suspect - who he did not name - said he "wanted to kill white people, especially white officers". Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/micah-x-johnson-xavier-dallas-police-shooting-shooter-identity-suspect-arrested-no-terror-links-a7127361.html Micah X. Johnson: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah-xavier-x-johnson-dallas-police-shooting-sniper-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/ After the shootings in downtown Dallas, the gunman, identified as Micah Xavier Johnson, 25, holed himself up inside the El Centro College building in the downtown area of the city, Dallas Police Chief David Brown said at a press conference. He told police he was “not affiliated with any groups,” and he said he “did this alone,” the chief said. Sources told the Los Angeles Times that Johnson has no ties to terror groups and no known criminal history. He has lived in the Dallas area and has family members living in Mesquite, Texas, east of Dallas, the newspaper reports, citing federal law enforcement sources. The suspect told police he was a U.S. Army Veteran, CBS News reports. He told police negotiators the “end is coming” and said he wanted to “kill more” officers, according to Brown. Police said after several hours of negotiating and shooting at the officers, the suspect was killed by a bomb-wielding robot. snip ![]()
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AntiBank | Jul 2016 | OP |
riversedge | Jul 2016 | #1 | |
ansible | Jul 2016 | #2 | |
christx30 | Jul 2016 | #4 | |
Igel | Jul 2016 | #10 | |
Yukari Yakumo | Jul 2016 | #23 | |
maxsolomon | Jul 2016 | #11 | |
Skittles | Jul 2016 | #31 | |
NWCorona | Jul 2016 | #35 | |
Odin2005 | Jul 2016 | #18 | |
morningfog | Jul 2016 | #3 | |
AntiBank | Jul 2016 | #5 | |
GreatGazoo | Jul 2016 | #6 | |
Fast Walker 52 | Jul 2016 | #16 | |
LanternWaste | Jul 2016 | #20 | |
Fast Walker 52 | Jul 2016 | #36 | |
flamingdem | Jul 2016 | #7 | |
TexasMommaWithAHat | Jul 2016 | #8 | |
Post removed | Jul 2016 | #9 | |
rladdi | Jul 2016 | #12 | |
TeddyR | Jul 2016 | #19 | |
sarisataka | Jul 2016 | #22 | |
christx30 | Jul 2016 | #26 | |
onehandle | Jul 2016 | #13 | |
Skittles | Jul 2016 | #30 | |
romanic | Jul 2016 | #14 | |
FLPanhandle | Jul 2016 | #15 | |
Odin2005 | Jul 2016 | #17 | |
olddad56 | Jul 2016 | #21 | |
7962 | Jul 2016 | #24 | |
FLPanhandle | Jul 2016 | #25 | |
olddad56 | Jul 2016 | #28 | |
olddad56 | Jul 2016 | #29 | |
7962 | Jul 2016 | #32 | |
Demonaut | Jul 2016 | #27 | |
7962 | Jul 2016 | #33 | |
Sunlei | Jul 2016 | #34 |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:12 AM
riversedge (64,933 posts)
1. He learned to shoot well that is for sure.
Response to ansible (Reply #2)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:33 AM
christx30 (6,236 posts)
4. Pretty much, yeah.
This plays right into the most unflattering (and racist) things the right says about the left, BLM, ect.
Cops are going to have an even more heightened sense of the "us against them" that is the cause of so many deaths. "Of course I shot first! Look at what happened in Dallas!" I don't know what Johnson was trying to accomplish, but his actions are 100% unhelpful at building peace in this country. This is going to divide people even more. |
Response to christx30 (Reply #4)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:11 AM
Igel (33,315 posts)
10. There are two ways forward.
The first is confrontational, where each group fights and kicks and screams for self-validating concessions. "Look what we managed to force the _______________ to do."
The second is introspective, where each group looks inward to see exactly how they've dehumanized and produced more fear and distrust of the other group. I mean, I've already read a post here whining that the police killed the suspect who was armed, killed some cops already, said wanted to kill more cops, and was barricaded in. He deserved a trial to show he was guilty, and the police were racist and wrong to end the situation that way. We built that kind of hate, brick by brick. Sadly, introspection can be derailed by this kind of thing because it requires placidity, not outrage. Introspection requires two paths of reasoning--the first is to examine distrust and why we have the distrust. The second is to examine why the other side's distrust exists and where we might have contributed to it. We usually think of the "proper" course as them trying to work out why we distrust them and our trying to work out why we're distrustful and what they can do to fix it. It's all their fault, in other words. Some concern last night over the Dallas shooting was precisely to this point: If the shooter was a black man, crap--it's hard to hold this POV and it changes the narrative. It's distracting from the real issues, but the only real issues are our issues. |
Response to christx30 (Reply #4)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:08 PM
Yukari Yakumo (3,013 posts)
23. He made it too easy for them.
Particularly for BLM since it seems like he was drunk off of their "All Police are Evil" rhetoric (see also: Toronto Gay Pride Parade incident). Any moral high ground from the Sterling shooting is not just gone, but completely obliterated and then some.
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Response to ansible (Reply #2)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:13 AM
maxsolomon (29,572 posts)
11. Holy Shit, Professor Griff?
Now Public Enemy's going to get dragged into this.
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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #11)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:29 PM
Skittles (147,800 posts)
31. he has tweeted to let people know he does NOT know this deranged killer
celebrities get their pictures taken a lot
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Response to Skittles (Reply #31)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 10:45 AM
NWCorona (8,541 posts)
35. He came out with the quickness! And rightfully so
Response to ansible (Reply #2)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:12 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
18. Good Lord, this guy is like a RW stereptype of Black Seperatist extremist.
Complete with believing "Afrocentrist" pseudo-history.
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Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:28 AM
morningfog (18,115 posts)
3. So, was he the only sniper?
Was he actually acting alone?
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Response to morningfog (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:34 AM
AntiBank (1,339 posts)
5. I highly doubt it
Response to morningfog (Reply #3)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:41 AM
GreatGazoo (3,937 posts)
6. Good question. What happened to "triangulating" and ambush
with multiple angles of fire? Was there "friendly fire" in the confusion?
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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #6)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:07 PM
Fast Walker 52 (7,723 posts)
16. so now it was a lone gunman?
Where have I heard that before?
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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #16)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:28 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
20. I don't think any definitive statements supporting your premise have been made.
I don't think any definitive statements supporting your premise have been made. I haven't seen any organization rule out one or more shooters being involved.
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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #20)
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 03:50 PM
Fast Walker 52 (7,723 posts)
36. they have now
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:51 AM
flamingdem (38,841 posts)
7. They're still calling the people being held
suspects. They're not cooperating.
Still, it always seems to end up being one lone gunman in his 20s. And, the neighbors are always shocked, he was quiet, a bit of a loner, as they're saying in Mesquite where he lived with his mom. |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:52 AM
TexasMommaWithAHat (3,212 posts)
8. CNN showing ariel footage of neighborhood
where he lived with his mother in Mesquite; it's a very nice neighborhood with 1 and 2 story brick homes.
I can't imagine what his mother is going through. |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
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Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:18 AM
rladdi (581 posts)
12. So does open carry of weapons and the massive push of arming America 10 fold
really make up safe? Does American law enforcement actually agree or approve of open carry of guns? Does it really make them more safe?
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Response to rladdi (Reply #12)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:24 PM
TeddyR (2,493 posts)
19. I'm not a fan of open carry
Or hugely opposed either. That said it can cause confusion as evidenced by the tweet Dallas police sent looking for the open carry guy from the protest.
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Response to TeddyR (Reply #19)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:01 PM
sarisataka (15,219 posts)
22. Yet the man open carrying
Was located. He peacefully turned his rifle over to the police. No one was shot in the process. Somehow they were able to tell the good guy, who happened to be black, from the bad guy.
I agree with you about open carry, I am not greatly opposed to it but I think it is not worth the anxiety it causes. |
Response to sarisataka (Reply #22)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:20 PM
christx30 (6,236 posts)
26. I had that thought too.
During the situation last night as I was walking home, my thinking was, "Texas is an open carry state. I can't imagine any way that more non-uniformed people in downtown Dallas could make anything better."
"Yee haw, officer! We're here to help!" |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 11:20 AM
onehandle (51,122 posts)
13. Just another legal gun owner. nt
Response to onehandle (Reply #13)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 10:26 PM
Skittles (147,800 posts)
30. just another gun humping nutcase
dime a dozen in Texas
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Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:00 PM
romanic (2,841 posts)
14. A former veteran?
Make sense. He had to have had a military mind to pull off a military style killing. So tragic.
Hate, anger, prejudice, and a rifle...led to this. ![]() ETA: Not attacking former vets btw, I know there are many who have served this country and have acclimated back into society unlike this murderous racist sob. Still it's a sad testament to how our country treats vets when they come back home, mental health and PTSD are real issues! |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:02 PM
FLPanhandle (7,107 posts)
15. Racism kills
He appeared to one racist asshole
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Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:09 PM
Odin2005 (53,521 posts)
17. The Drumpfists are going to have a field day with this.
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 12:44 PM
olddad56 (5,732 posts)
21. US Army Veteran.. that says it all...
another government trained killer who came home with PTSD. Thanks to the Bush crime family for more collateral damage from your illegal invasions.
My heart goes out to his victims, their families, and the family of this man. |
Response to olddad56 (Reply #21)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:09 PM
7962 (11,841 posts)
24. Any evidence that he had PTSD? The only evidence so far is he was a virulent racist.
Until we know more, dont insult the people who deal with PTSD every day without harming anyone.
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Response to 7962 (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:13 PM
FLPanhandle (7,107 posts)
25. +1
There is no evidence presented the killer had PTSD.
Most with PTSD are not to be painted as potential shooters. |
Response to FLPanhandle (Reply #25)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:22 PM
olddad56 (5,732 posts)
28. not all people with PTSD are potential shooters, in fact very few...
but many veteran with experience in war zones that commit homicides and suicides do suffer from PTSD. We may never know if this particular veteran had PTSD and if that influenced his thought process. At this point there is no evidence that this person did or didn't have PTSD. And many, many people who have PTSD are never diagnosed, or are misdiagnosed with something else.
I don't think any normal person that participates or witnesses a war is ever the same. And each are affected to varying degrees. I know how being in Vietnam effected me and I was never in any ground combat situation. Most of the people that I am still in contact with from my time there have been diagnosed with PTSD, and some form of cancer. My purple heart Vietnam vet brother-in-law went almost 45 years before ever having any of the common symptoms of PTSD. He happened to be watching a documentary about Vietnam a few years ago and it brought back so many repressed memories that he started having nightmares, guilt, anger, etc. It surely didn't help this shooter that he was in the Army in Afghanistan. Fuck war. |
Response to 7962 (Reply #24)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:38 PM
olddad56 (5,732 posts)
29. I wasn't insulting anyone, you made that connection on your own.
Response to olddad56 (Reply #29)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:17 AM
7962 (11,841 posts)
32. By immediately diagnosing him with PTSD, you were.
Oh, military veteran, he's got PTSD. Yeah, you WERE insulting those who do deal with it by instantly jumping to that conclusion.
Why not conclude that the guy was a racist, based on his own statements. |
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:22 PM
Demonaut (8,627 posts)
27. fuck that guy
Response to Demonaut (Reply #27)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 06:24 AM
7962 (11,841 posts)
33. Well, THAT was right to the point! nt
Response to AntiBank (Original post)
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:07 AM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)