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Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:19 AM

 

FBI: "No reasonable prosecutor would bring charges", "No charges are appropriate in this case".

Source: CNN AP Excite

FBI says it won't recommend charges in Clinton email matter.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI won't recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton for her use of a private email server while secretary of state, agency Director James Comey said Tuesday, lifting a major legal threat to her presidential campaign.

Comey said that although the investigation found "extremely careless" behavior by Clinton and her staff in their handling of sensitive information, the FBI had concluded that "no charges are appropriate." He said the agency believed that "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."

The announcement came three days after the FBI interviewed Clinton for hours in a final step of its yearlong investigation into the possible mishandling of classified information.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch said last week that she would accept the recommendations of the FBI director and of career prosecutors, meaning that Comey's decision almost certainly brings the legal part of the issue to a close and removes the threat of criminal charges.

However, it's unlikely to wipe away many voters' concerns about Clinton's trustworthiness. And it probably won't stop Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who has called for criminal charges, from continuing to make the server a campaign issue.

Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20160705/us-clinton-emails-4d13e34208.html



Well, there goes the indictment fairy--off to an early retirement.

Haven't ventured over to RW-land, but the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth over there must be epic.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:21 AM

1. The GOPers are going to go ape shit.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:22 AM

4. My standard FB response to RW hoaxes

Last edited Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Have you ever considered that you are being lied to?

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Response to underpants (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:35 PM

102. Yes, that's why they nominated Trump

Hey if they're going to be lied to may as well go all the way. Right?

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Response to Cary (Reply #102)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:21 AM

205. Bill Lost 2000 For Gore

 

Yet my more centrist Democrats blame Nadar which is no different in its untruth. If Bill had campaigned in Arkansas for Al he would've flipped the state for him and there wouldn't have been an Iraq War at the very least. We all know how chummy Bill was with GW's dad but there still was no excuse for that. Trump doesn't stand a chance. He doesn't get it that there is a bigger game going on. He's a dunce. A rich simpleton. The Republicans deserve to self-destruct. I hope it ends their party. Bush should've but Obama allowed his rehabilitation. I don't think anyone would allow Trump that. He's a newbie. And I'm sure the military contractors won't hack any voting machines on his behalf so he has no lifesavor. If he did start winning someone would have to step in. The world can't afford another Hitler. Bush and he buddies were bad enough.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #205)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:41 AM

221. As usual, facts disagree with you.

 

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #221)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:59 PM

249. As Usual Your Empty Comments Are Meaningless

 

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #221)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:16 PM

251. You're Right...Leiberman Should Never Have Been On Ticket

 

And Al did keep Bill at arms length but he could've done something in Arkansas.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #251)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:28 PM

252. Keep telling yourself that.

 

Then again, weren't you the guy running around yelling about how Bill Clinton threatened to kill Jerry Brown? As I said before, facts disagree with you.

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #252)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 02:43 AM

255. Kill? He Definitely Threatened Him

 

Watch the video. If facts mean anything to you.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #255)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:53 AM

257. What video? Nt

 

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Response to Dr Hobbitstein (Reply #257)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 11:56 AM

259. PBS 1992 Rountable Primary Debate

 

I was there were you ?

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #259)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 02:56 PM

260. So, you make claims with no proof.

 

"I was there, were you". I don't believe you.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:16 PM

151. oh they are.. and it is delicious to watch.

 

My greatest dream in life right now is to see President Hillary R. Clinton early next year announce that she is appointing ex-President Barak Obama to the Scalia vacancy of the SCOTUS. The exploding right wing heads will be of an epic tale never before seen.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #151)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:34 PM

158. Wouldn't that be wonderful?

She will have a lot of down ticket wins to get him approved though.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #151)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:04 PM

164. Or, how about

Michelle Obama for Supreme Court instead? She's 2 years younger and women typically live longer. She could be on the court for 30-40 years!

I can see Rush having a stroke on air...

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #164)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:08 PM

178. Oooo, I like it!

 

Put her out there and if they do manage to filibuster it to death, then throw him in as the alternative.. They either confirm one of them or nosedive even more in the polls.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #151)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:01 PM

170. I looked in on Discussionist

and heads are clearly exploding.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #151)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:04 PM

182. I always thought Obama would make a good Justice.

I can see some idiot begging the court for MOAR POWERZ the Executive doesn't need, and Obama telling them, basically, ''ummm no u don't, I was there.'

Yes you would need a tarp to keep the xploded heds parts off of you...like at a galleger (sp) show.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #151)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:23 AM

256. I have thought the same thing for years

After all, what else would a constitutional lawyer aspire to as a career goal?

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Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:45 PM

181. Along with the blood thirsty media.

Been watching throughout the day and the MSM teasers are as she has been found guilty of every crime ever committed. Then they bring on some GOP asshat to explain. Then of course play Drumphs response. Sad.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:22 AM

2. The GOP received ammo, too

@BN9: .@FBI Director James Comey on Hillary Clinton email investigation: 110 emails contained classified info at time of sent/received.

m.twitter.com/BN9


@BN9: .@FBI Director James Comey on Hillary Clinton email investigation: "There is evidence that they were extremely careless ... "

m.twitter.com/BN9


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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:26 AM

11. So is losing 10's of millions of email...

Ala little bushie and his cohorts!

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:26 AM

13. Lots of bad.

He very clearly called her out on several statements.

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Response to Bob41213 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:51 AM

42. Some bad, not "lots of..." - bottom line, nothing illegal was done. I would bet that if any other..

...departments' computer systems and/or habits were scrutinized as closely as this one was, there WOULD be "lots of bad".

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:28 AM

14. But, Comey said that there have been similar incidences of "carelessness"

 

in other governmental departments, as contrasted with clearly "criminal" activities that have been prosecuted.

Obviously, the whole governmental e-mail infrastructure is a mess and needs a complete overhaul.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:50 AM

41. I just wonder

whose email setup isn't a leaking mess

OK, IT people know what they're doing

But the rest of us take precautions, AV, complex passwords, etc

Is it nuclear proof security? Do CEO's and COO's and senior execs
have time to become experts in IT security? They're running a company,
do they have time for it?

So I think most people, or almost everyone, is caught in this bind.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:57 AM

56. And, the sheer size and complexity of the government network make it particularly vulnerable.

 

Plus, the fact that a comprehensive upgrade has never been undertaken.

The whole set up is one big Rube Goldberg nightmare.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:20 PM

191. Reminds me of the Great Nuclear Launch Code Farce

where back in 1962 Kennedy signed an order that the nation's nuclear arsenal be protected with against unauthorized launch by requiring a secure launch code. The Strategic Air Command people had no choice but to agree, but thought that it would be too complicated. They set the launch code for all the nukes at 00000000, and that's what it was for the next fifteen years (before anybody thought to mention it might be a bad idea).

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:27 PM

89. But guess who doesn't want to pay for it?

First two don't count. Hint: starts with an R and ends with an N.

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Response to Loki (Reply #89)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:31 PM

97. No!...You mean the GOPers want to "drown" government with cumbersome information technology?

 

How can it be??? Color me shocked!

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:17 PM

77. What's "extremely careless" is the GOP refusing to fund a modern, secure fed email system.

The email system at the State Department was utterly dysfunctional. That is why Hillary, and ever Secretary of State before her who had to use email, used private email.

Mind you, the State Department's email system was repeatedly hacked, but Clinton's never was.

And none of the email on Clinton's server was marked classified at the time it was sent--these were all after the fact classifications as part of responding to a FOIA request.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:14 PM

134. Not only that they won't fund a proper IT upgrade, but that they won't fund adequate security at our

embassies, even when the people stationed there say they are under threat. The Benghazi debacle could have been prevented if the GOP reps hadn't cheaped out the security funding requests.

The very things they go after Hillary for are actually, and predictably the inevitable consequences of their own stupid and often evil choices. Republicans' refusal to fund security in Benghazi, despite specific requests for money to strengthen security, is what left those people high and dry.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #134)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:05 PM

161. But that costs money

They have higher priorities like tax cuts for the rich.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:21 PM

138. VERY important points!

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:19 PM

136. and then there's equal justice under the law

 

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences."

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #136)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:42 PM

142. His prejudiced, personal POV, which should not even enter into this announcement.

 

An egregious misuse of his position and his unprecedented pre-report press conference, to put forward a blatantly biased and personal point of view.

An POV of a political appointee that obviously goes against the recommendation of his career investigators, and puts the subject (HRC) on trial by public opinon.

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:52 PM

148. Comey had no right to say that, and he will probably lose his job over that (ntxt)

 

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Response to scscholar (Reply #148)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:33 AM

214. How can you say he had no right to say it? He was releasing his report.

 

That report showed a number of things that HRC lied about, and one was under oath. Carelessness and incompetence was revealed in the statement. Like it or not, there it is.
Now I said from the start that no charges would be filed, but I understand why Bernie has stayed in it. Perjury IS against the law, and stating under oath that ALL emails have been turned over WAS a lie.
Not to mention the continuous statement that "...nothing classified...", which anyone following this knew was also a lie.
The bottom line is she doesnt get charged, no surprise.

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Response to teach1st (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:30 PM

157. unfortunately

the 'extremely careless' with sensitive information phrase by the FBI cannot be considered a positive

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:22 AM

3. Go Hillary...

Think I'll send that donation now!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:23 AM

5. I guess the last 10 months of memes and BS in GD-P were a waste of time

 

for a good number of people LOL...

ALL THAT TIME and ALL THAT ENERGY wasted on ALL THOSE THREADS


Oh well, this will make you feel better

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What is the feeling in Justin's body that he can't stop? Watch and find out!

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:13 PM

73. I suspect a lot of them were paid RW trolls.

 

Nobody who was paying attention thought there would be prosecution due to a lack of criminal intent. Every politician and bureaucrat in the nation would have been subject to prosecution if this held up.

That doesn't mean that this was a secure operation, but I suspect that it was more secure than official State Department emails.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:04 PM

125. Liars and bullshitters. And not one of them will come forward and recant.

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:20 PM

137. This song is appropriate, too:

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:23 AM

6. One more conspiracy theory bites the dust! n/t

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Response to livetohike (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:25 AM

10. Conspiracy theories never bite the dust.

They proliferate and grow like dust bunnies under the bed.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:31 AM

18. You're right. Remember, he made no mention of Vince Foster.

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Response to George II (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:35 AM

22. I know I'm right, reality has nothing to do with it.

I could invent a few right now, and I see at least one coming for sure, but let's not go there.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:26 PM

154. LOL, I'm stealing that one (nt)

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Response to William Seger (Reply #154)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:28 PM

155. Please do. nt

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Response to livetohike (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:38 PM

104. Oh, it'll soon morph into some other RW meme...bet on it!

 

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Response to livetohike (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:20 PM

153. I wouldn't bet on it. Look how long and pathetically they held onto that "birther" meme.

 

Reality and evidence of fact doesn't figure into their narrative at all. They don't even pretend that it does.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:24 AM

7. It's OVAH!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:49 AM

208. I wish.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:24 AM

8. Trumpster will tweet, "The system is rigged" next

Of course, with Crooked Hillary inside the Star of David

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Response to wordpix (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:49 AM

37. You called it! He just did. You were a few minutes ahead of him.

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Response to wordpix (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:54 AM

52. Here we go -

Obama/Lama/ding dong....

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Response to wordpix (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:07 PM

68. I'm glad he's going in that direction. It's clearly a ridiculous one.

He could twist the "incompetence" meme around and make things sound worse. If he had half a brain he'd ally himself with the FBI against Hillary in whatever spin he could. But he's so black and white and believes his followers are so stupid that he sticks to the "rigged" thing. He'd better be careful. If anyone was ripe for investigation it's The D.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:44 PM

111. Ripe for an investigation? Been there, done that, and gotten the lawsuit teeshirt!

He's being investigated on, what? Three scams now, counting Trump U?

Any politician with eyes closed and a hand tied behind her back could turn that "incompetence" meme back on him...and they could do it by pointing to his own campaign!

Naw. I know Repukes have tried awfully hard to keep the Benghazi and the e-mail scandal running, but without any sort of fuel from the FBI or another committee, it's dead on the road. Not even Trump blowing with all the wind in him could move this wreck along for the four more months left till election day. His own followers, sure, they'll push it for as long as they can, but most voters have already walked away.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:25 AM

9. Ding Dong the Indictment Fairy is gone...

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:36 AM

23. LOVE it!

They'll hang on the "extremely careless" bits for dear life and try to make something of those crumbs. Her enemies probably got some tiny crumbs falling off the edge of the tablecloth. Unfortunately for them, they were expecting and probably planning on a ten-course dinner.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:26 AM

12. Those loud popping noises you hear are Hillary Hating Heads Asplodin'. eom

 

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Response to MohRokTah (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:30 AM

17. Asplodin' - like that!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:28 AM

15. Well, that'll break a few hearts.

GOOD!!!!!

Fuck 'em.

GET OVER IT, forcryingoutloud.

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Response to calimary (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:02 PM

63. + infinity LOL

It's about time - now maybe - just maybe this crap will stop....I won't hang waiting though!!!!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:30 AM

16. Not a big surprise, but good to have in ON RECORD by the Director of the FBI.

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Response to George II (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:16 PM

76. The extremely careless part?

We're going to hear the right beat that drum for the next many months at least.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:25 PM

87. True, but it's a small issue now, much less important than all the other things that will come up.

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Response to George II (Reply #87)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:30 PM

95. At the end of the day this won't stop her from winning.

But it's drag on the campaign. Muddies the waters. Helped nothing, and raised some real concerns.

Honestly, Hillary could have done two things here. First up, point out that State Department IT was mostly Bush appointees and she simply didn't trust them. Second, she could have paid for better IT herself. Then we never had to go down the 'herp derp what does wipe mean' path.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #95)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:34 PM

100. Helped nothing? The investigation is over and there will not be any criminal charges.

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Response to George II (Reply #100)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:42 PM

109. Well, no charges certainly helps. Sure.

But it left open enough criticism that it's a right-wing news heyday anyway.

Honestly it's the best kind for them, or the kind they like the most. Now they get to wordsmith the actually damaging parts, AND wink-wink nudge-nudge about the visit with Bill, etc.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #109)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:47 PM

115. The right wing will find anything to criticize. Remember them harping on Obama....

...."palling around with terrorists" because he worked for the same charitable organization as Bill Ayers?

If Clinton was heard farting in church that would find itself on Fox News with a red "Breaking News" banner.

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Response to George II (Reply #115)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:50 PM

119. Fair points.

You're right, it'll be something, no matter what.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #109)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:00 AM

193. Right wing hey day? You should read the Washington Post editorial it was scathing...

They've been supporters of Hillary and they're hardly RW.

She was exposed telling the public multiple lies at a time when she was working to change the public perception about her credibility.

Luckily she running against Trump...

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Response to raindaddy (Reply #193)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:39 AM

215. Correct. All these responses are really surprising to me.

 

I'm reading all these posts and everyone is basically saying "Yay! we all knew she'd get away with it!"
I did NOT expect the FBI to come out with SO many negatives. As I listened to Comey, I thought "Wow, they're actually going to charge her"
His whole statement is a GOP ad. He pretty much said she was not truthful & incompetent regarding handling security.

But like you said, with Trump as the opponent this will fade to nothing because he's too stupid to capitalize on it!!

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Response to George II (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:29 PM

93. So what will Faux News talk about endlessly?

Benghazi is done. No indictment coming for Hillary via "emailgate". Bill is still talking to people?

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:31 AM

19. Hi



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Response to itsrobert (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:38 AM

26. Hey there!

 



Good news...expected, but still just fine.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:32 AM

20. Put a fork in it.

It's done.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:47 AM

34. It's not done, it's just beginning.

He said plenty that will come back and haunt her. Like this:

"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now."

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Response to Bob41213 (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:06 PM

67. Even more importantly

She said several times she never sent or received classified information. This has apparently been firmly contradicted. This will come back to haunt her.

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Response to merrifield (Reply #67)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:18 PM

79. never sent or received emails that were MARKED classified.

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Response to Justice (Reply #79)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:23 PM

84. Untrue, see post 65.

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Response to merrifield (Reply #67)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:27 PM

92. I don't think her statement was that black and white.

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Response to merrifield (Reply #67)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:35 PM

101. "Knowingly"...hate to spoil your narrative.

 

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Response to Bob41213 (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:08 PM

69. It is done. Get a over it. Hillary is the nominee

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Response to still_one (Reply #69)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:36 PM

103. There seem to be too many people participating in this discussion who appear disappointed.

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Response to George II (Reply #103)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:41 PM

108. There are some, but it is time to accept things. If some cannot do that, then it is time

for them to move on.

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Response to Bob41213 (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:19 PM

135. And, the prospect of a "haunting" seems to please you...

 



Perhaps you're a fan of horror movies?

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:33 AM

21. Freepers' heads are splodin' right now. My personal favorite (so far)

"Did we really expect anything different, especially when Bill and Lynch had their meeting; when she hadn’t been bound over earlier; when Barky said he was going to N.C. with her campaigning on OUR dime in OUR plane?

Nope, it is very clear now, there is only ONE choice for POTUS= Donald J. Trump....and if you vote for anyone other than him, your not a True Blue Blooded AMERICAN, you do not belong in this COUNTRY, and you are a COMMUNIST!!!

GO.TRUMP.GO!!! ALL THE WAY TO THE OVAL OFFICE!!!"


74 posted on 7/5/2016, 11:19:15 AM by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:49 AM

38. So are the JPRs (nt)

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Reply #38)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:52 AM

46. That site quickly morphed from a pro-Bernie site to a Hillary hate site.

It's largely indistinguishable from FR nowadays.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:38 PM

105. It has been that way for a while. Not only a Hillary hate site, but a hatred against

against anyone who endorsed or supported Hillary

I will not go over there. Some of the most vile sexists comments made against Hillary, calling her every name in the book.

Is that the way mature adults act?

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:09 PM

130. Yup.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #130)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:26 PM

166. You're right

Don't give them the traffic. I went there one time, and after 5 minutes I swore 'never again.'

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:24 PM

173. And not just freepers...

There are many Hillary haters who feel threatened by powerful women. Some of their "tells" are their use of nasty sexist and misogynist terms.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:36 AM

24. Can we now, once and for all, stop believing right-wing smears of the Clinton's

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Response to samsingh (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:55 AM

54. How was this a smear?

 

The FBI investigated Hillary's use of a private server and determined that she was "extremely careless" with documents related to national security but had not committed a criminal act. Those are facts, not a "smear." So it is good that she won't be indicted but everyone acting like this was a non-issue is simply a Hillary apologist or is ignoring reality.

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Response to TeddyR (Reply #54)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:59 AM

58. i guess not.

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Response to samsingh (Reply #58)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:57 PM

184. LOL!!!!

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Response to TeddyR (Reply #54)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:42 AM

196. Here's the reality...

Some opinions, expectations, hopes, predictions and suspicions have been--contradicted. by. the. law.

The frustration, disappointment, outrage and concern trolling by Hillary's detractors is NOTHING but moralistic grandstanding and sour grapes.

That's it. That's the reality.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:37 AM

25. lots of guesses, which surprised me..

He said in several times, that although they could find no eveidence, they beleieve it could have happened?

wtf.

What do the fbi guesses have to do with the results?

That is partisan bs.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:42 AM

31. Agree...that unfounded speculation was totally misplaced.

 

"We think, using educated guesses, that this might have happened".


The FBI has the best information technology experts in the world--they didn't find any traces of such a breach? I call bullshit on Comey. He HAD to get his partisan crap in somewhere.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:54 AM

53. This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, thank you.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:38 AM

27. Rightwing plot fails again!

It was BULLSHIT from the start -- and MOST of us didn't fall for it!!!

Ready for Hillary!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:38 AM

28. A peak into Right Wing world

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:40 AM

29. OVER

no bad when there is no indictment.

So anyone who thought there would be can cry
With Guccifer and the repukes.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:52 AM

44. Oh don't hold your breath - it's never over

I mean 7-8 investigations into the Benghazi incident and still nothing was found.

The GOP and Hillary Haters (sadly NOT the same group of people) will do their best to keep dragging this one out as long as possible.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:41 AM

30. The indictment fairy is dead

Long live the indictment fairy.

They'll think of something else, won't they? It's terrible to be this old and cynical.

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Response to Bob41213 (Reply #32)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:04 PM

65. The most damning part:

Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

And no, I'm not a Hillary hater, but this is not good.

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Response to trof (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:12 PM

72. I agree

as a former IT manager, it's appalling that she would do this. I'm sure she has battle scars from the nineties but she SHOULD HAVE KNOWN better. For crying out loud, what she did was stupid.

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Response to LittleGirl (Reply #72)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:14 PM

75. Well, now we'll BOTH be flamed.



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Response to trof (Reply #75)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:03 PM

149. bring it on

I used to be the email manager for north america for my company and what she did was inexcusable. Security was our top priority and she broke all of the rules. shame shame. careless indeed. security breech, absolutely.

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Response to trof (Reply #65)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:13 PM

74. In other words she doesn't belong behind bars but..

she wasn't a reasonable enough person to be able to figure out that information that was classified Secret shouldn't have been discussed on a unguarded server..

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:47 AM

33. GOP heads exploding in 3, 2, 1.....

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:52 AM

47. Not just the GOP exploding

The Hillary Haters too and they are NOT the GOP.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:18 PM

78. So, so true, sadly. The haters cleverly mask their contempt as "concern".

 

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:44 PM

110. and it appears some here want to continue this bullshit also. Hillary IS THE NOMINEE

and will be the next President. They better get used to it

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:53 AM

49. As my husband just said: "there is no crime in 'COULDA BEEN'.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda. But that doesn't constitute criminal behavior.

However, they CAN be expected to cling to these crumbs the way crumbs of toilet paper cling to their own asses after certain sittings upon the commode.

CNN brings on the haters!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:49 AM

35. Excellent summation at Think Progress -

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/07/05/3795414/hillary-clinton-isnt-getting-indicted-heres/

From article -


as ABC News Legal Analyst Dan Abrams explains, several key words in this provision also weigh against charging Clinton. For one thing, a 1941 Supreme Court decision interprets the phrase “relating to the national defense” to require “‘intent or reason to believe that the information to be obtained is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation.’ This requires those prosecuted to have acted in bad faith.” That’s a high bar — there’s no apparent evidence that Clinton had reason to believe that her use of a private server would cause information to be obtained that advantaged a foreign nation or that would have caused injury to the United States.


The earth just rumbled under the republiklans feet....

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Response to alarimer (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:01 PM

62. When you have actual proof of how much it is costing us, I'll stick with CNN figures.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/07/04/sanders-secret-service-zeleny-pkg-tsr.cnn

P.S. If that is such a old Stat then it only stands to reason that that figure would be much higher today.

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Response to William769 (Reply #62)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:26 PM

88. CNN never screws up.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #88)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:27 PM

91. And they have yet to be proven wrong on thier figures.

Are you saying they are never right?

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Response to William769 (Reply #91)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:49 PM

117. In 2012 the 'number' was actually higher than that.

Problem is, that is just an average slice of the total protection line item in their budget for that election cycle. It doesn't mean they spent that much per day on any one candidate, and it doesn't meant they will stop spending that much if he drops out. They don't hire and fire agents as the candidate pool shrinks over time. Larger general election visits/rallys, etc will have higher security costs than smaller primary visits. Etc.

So the number isn't 'wrong' so much as it is 'wildly misleading'.

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Response to alarimer (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:19 PM

80. Senator Sanders


Thank you alarimer. Lies against Senator Sanders continue.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:05 PM

66. Oh stop it.

 

We get great news and you turn it negative INSTANTLY. Very childish.

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Response to ThinkCritically (Reply #66)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:10 PM

71. I'll stop it when we stop paying for something that is not necessary.

I never knew that trying to stop wasteful spending was "Very childish". Go figure!

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Response to William769 (Reply #71)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 05:54 AM

209. You're purporting to know better than the Secret Service whether or not danger still exists? Wow.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:50 AM

40. Damn, Comey threw the indictment fairy straight under the bus.

I know a lot of hopes and dreams were crushed by this news.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:51 AM

43. It always sounded Benghazi-esque.

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Response to marmar (Reply #43)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:54 AM

51. I agree. What she was doing was the same exact thing done by her predecessors

Yet only Hillary gets investigated.

Silly ain't it!

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Response to marmar (Reply #43)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:23 PM

192. It will take nine congressional inquiries before its Benghazi-esque

Apparently Paul Ryan just announced number one.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:53 AM

48. Breaking: Trey Gowdy Vows to Spearhead Another Futile $700M Fishing Expedition

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:53 AM

50. Let the mourning for the Indictment Fairy commence!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:55 AM

55. "Hillary isn't a US citizen! She was born in Kenya! We want to see her birth certificate!"

The next poutrage from the RW moonbats.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:58 AM

57. Good. (n/t)

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 11:59 AM

59. YESSS! No more "tic tock, tic toc". It's OVER!!!!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:00 PM

60. turned on herman cain radio show after the announcement

He's was ramblin' on about pianos, losing his rain of thought, his crew was quiet and not helping out much.

But, give 'em a day or so and it will be like the birth certificate bullshit. They won't give up very easy.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:00 PM

61. Cue the "This PROVES Bill & Loretta cut a deal!" whining in 3... 2... n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:02 PM

64. Oh, I'm sure that meme is already circulating on the usual conspiracy sites as we speak...

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:22 PM

81. Hillary is guilty of being ignorant of technology

Will be a waste of time for pugs to go after her on this. If they are smart they would keep pushing for her to release her Goldman Sach/Wall Street speeches.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:23 PM

82. The indictment fairy exploded, overstuffed on delusion.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:23 PM

83. Finally, official word.

The rumor and speculation was becoming tiresome.

-- Mal

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:25 PM

85. poor ha goodman

someone better check up on him

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:25 PM

86. I do believe we have a new word of the day, Surya.

Haunt!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #86)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:27 PM

90. Haunt...haunt...haunt...haunt. Yep, nice word.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #90)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:31 PM

96. Haunt.....



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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #96)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:31 PM

141. Thought this horror movie looked kinda good! LOL!

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #141)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:47 PM

143. Ooooh!

I love that one!

Some Houses are Born Bad.

Sorta like the House of Cards the GOP keeps trying to build!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:29 PM

94. Of course AP added "trustworthiness", because the MSM cannot just let that bullshit go

They have been propagating that right wing talking point for decades now.

There was a post a couple of days ago discussing how fox had to close comments on an article regarding Malia Obama going to Harvard, because of the vile racism that was spewing forth.

Fox who has had one guest on after another pushing the racist President Obama bullshit for years, and then when they become embarrassed by the racist rants against the President's daughter they shut it down, while it WAS FOX NEWS themselves who are directly responsible for this.

Same thing with the republican Hillary "trustworthy" memo, that the illustrious MSM has been pushing.

How about a poll that tells us how trustworthy the public thinks about the media?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/176042/trust-mass-media-returns-time-low.aspx



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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:31 PM

98. Let's clear up this what I think is a mis-statement by some commentators

Comey said there were 110 emails that were classified at the time... not marked classified. He said that they should have know they contained sensitive information.
Hillary said she neither sent nor received anything MARKED classified. In my opinion some talking heads are twisting this remark by Comey.

Now, am I correct? He did not say they were MARKED. right?

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #98)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:44 PM

112. Exactly..."were classified" (should've been classified?)--NOT "marked classified" at the time...

 

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #98)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:16 PM

152. What he said was "Only a very small number of emails containing classified information bore markings

 

indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #98)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:45 PM

168. You are correct - a convenient word dropped here and there is what got us here in the first place.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:32 PM

99. Really? This was a thing?

I had no idea...

...heh.





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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:38 PM

106. it's not the indictment, it's the indictability

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Response to MisterP (Reply #106)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:46 PM

114. Its over. The only people continuing this will be the Hillary haters.

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Response to MisterP (Reply #106)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:48 PM

116. Just what did Comey and C° find to be indictable?

 

He expressly said that that was not the case.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:45 PM

113. Guess we will have to have another Congressional Investigation now!

Get my SS check next week. If I have anything left over after buying my Meds, Im sending HRC $27!

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #113)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:51 PM

121. Excellent initiative. Everyone should celebrate this announcement the way you are, Cryptoad.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:50 PM

118. extremely careless is an inditment in itself, those on the fence will turn their backs

 

this is not good news. She will lose voters today, and Obama cannot help her. She has to assure doubters from here on, no more mis-steps. Comey has armed the GOP today. She will win the GE, but I can see 4 yrs of investigations and obstruction.

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Response to larkrake (Reply #118)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 12:54 PM

122. Your concern has been noted.

 

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Response to larkrake (Reply #118)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:02 PM

124. Your 'concern' is very very moving.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #120)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:02 PM

123. Goalpost mover

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #123)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:04 PM

126. Apparently the posts moved so far they fell right off the edge of the earth. nt

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Response to Post removed (Reply #127)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:07 PM

128. False equivalencies between Rove and HRC? How desperate of you.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #133)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:22 PM

139. you are the one drawing false equivalencies. There is nothing that needs explanation.

Your goal-post moving and 'concern' are quite transparent.

"And she lied"

Please enumerate the 'lies" with supporting links. Fox News 'experts' don't count, nor do partisan liars like HA Goodman.

"I guess that is ok with you"

You don't get to put words in my mouth, especially given that you start with false premises.

"Not with me if she wants my vote"

Vote for whomever you want. That is your right as a citizen.

If you want the most vulnerable people in America to suffer, by all means knock yourself out.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:08 PM

129. You don't need to go to RW land to see it, it is here on DU with the Bernie supporters.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #129)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:04 PM

150. Agree, but...in my book they are the anonymous

 

"concern cohort"...concerned that she'll be haunted (word-of-the-day) by the "carelessness" charge from now until forever.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:10 PM

131. Yes indeed!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:11 PM

132. It never was more than a right wing wet dream

Ain't reality a bitch?

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Response to Gman (Reply #132)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:22 PM

140. But, she'll be "haunted" by the "carelessness" charge...haven't you heard?

 

"Haunted" being the word-of the-day from the "concerned" cohort.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #140)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:48 PM

145. Yes, my brow is furrowed. On the one hand we have a candidate

who has been investigated to death for years, and the worst one can say is she was "extremely careless" (which is a judgment call rather than a factual statement).

On the other hand we have a candidate currently facing lawsuits alleging massive fraud, who has repeatedly lost prior lawsuits and engaged in many bad behaviors, who is caught lying more than any other candidate this year, who spews racist, sexist, and other offensive statements routinely.

And we're supposed to be concerned about HER honesty, trustworthiness, etc.?

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #145)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:50 PM

146. Faced with such cognitive dissonance, the mind can only boggle...

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #140)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:00 PM

169. trolls

they're so CONCERNED!!!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 01:47 PM

144. We have our next president

No way Donald gets elected now.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:29 PM

156. I am relieved this won't drag down the down-ticket

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 02:38 PM

159. Say la..let it be

 

Its iver

Now one to the fight for presidency

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:50 PM

162. Up Next

Republicans call for special prosecutor, because FBI investigation was politically motivated.... bet on it.

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Response to humbled_opinion (Reply #162)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 03:54 PM

163. Yeah, let them ride that dead horse all the way to November...

 

Comey, a Republican political appointee, led a polically motivated investigation in favor of the Democrats.

Okaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:14 PM

165. Stupid wasteful investigation over classification

I disagree with the FBI. There was no careless behavior. Again, and this should be pointed out over and over. Clinton and her staff disagreed with classifying the emails in question as secret or top secret. They were classified retro actively.

This was a pissing match between State and CIA over who classifies what and the how and why documents get classified. State disagreed and then it all lead to this.

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Response to jzodda (Reply #165)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 04:44 PM

167. Very well said...

 

"This was a pissing match between State and CIA..."

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:01 PM

171. And yet again we are reminded of the two tier judicial system in the U.S.

 

Where the elite and powerful play under one set of laws, rules and regulations, while the rest of us are judged under another set.

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Response to mrr303am (Reply #171)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:35 PM

174. "The rest of us" would not normally be handling top secret government documents, and would

 

therefore be unlikely to find ourselves in such a position.

Fail to see the different "set of laws" here.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:05 PM

172. Splodey heads are sploden!!!1111

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:42 PM

175. This would be pristine,

 

if Bill hadn't gotten on that fucking plane!

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Response to Night Watchman (Reply #175)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:59 AM

222. Oh please

The extremes, right and left, would whine and whine. It's what they do.

Don't worry this too shall pass. It always does.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 05:58 PM

176. next up. the gop is going to setup a congressional invedtigstion.

Given what Ryan said, I would not be surprised if they setup yet another congressional investigation. I am sure they are stupid enough to not have learned from benghazi. maybe they will ask gody to chair it too now that he is done with benghazi..

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Response to drray23 (Reply #176)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:04 PM

177. Hope they announce their intention to do that in the run-up to November.

 

That exciting prospect should bring them millions more votes.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #177)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:53 PM

190. Ok. We did not have to wait too long.

I see Ryan just announced it. stupid is so predictable.. it's going to be funny to see the gop trying to question the integrity of the fbi director, a republican appointee himself who donated to both bush and Romney campaigns in the past.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #190)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:27 AM

207. As the saying goes: "BRING IT ON..."

 

"...it's going to be funny to see the GOP trying to question the integrity of the FBI director, a republican appointee himself..."

The Amercian electorate is SURE to be amused...NOT!

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:16 PM

179. With the Republicans nothing is ever over

 

They don't play nice. And they never stop attacking . If the Secretary manages to gain the election, she will be met with historically unprecedented obstruction and endless investigations. The pressure is going to be severe. Obama faced the worst Congress could give him and he was a young man of 48 years, the presidency is a very tough job. I mean unless you are a Bush and you are too stupid to care anyway,but for a person who would have the energy and the ability to do it while involved in a full on battle , and it will be a full on battle, with Congress and they teapublicans who have been downright chummy with Obama by comparison . That's all I am saying. There will be a war within our government like never before.
This is going to put alot of pressure on we the people it will put pressure on the economy and it will create a vacuum wherein all things are questionable and nothing matters because some that are not real will matter so while others that are will not matter at all. Laws won't matter. Rights won't matter.they don't already. When will that matter ?
This was a very strange way to make a historic and significant announcement and it was a very strange announcement . It really pleased no one. She did it , but she did not mean to do it. It's all a mistake she made nothing to see here.
What does it matter ?

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Response to maindawg (Reply #179)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 06:31 PM

180. No matter what Democrat follows Obama, the obstruction and misgovernment from the Repub. camp

 

will continue. NO MATTER WHO sits in the Oval Office (even a Repub).

The only way this will change is by Dems winning back both Houses. Already, regaining the Senate would be a major step.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 07:42 PM

183. Today is the day justice died

 

It's sad when justice is no longer blind; where there exists one system to excuse the actions of the rich, powerful, and politically connected; and another system to punish the likes of you and me.

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Response to SusanLarson (Reply #183)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:59 AM

200. "Hyperbole...the WORST rhetorical trick in the world."

 

"You and me" would not normally be handling top secret government documents, and would therefore be unlikely to be "punished" in such a position.

Fail to see the "system to excuse the rich, powerful, and politically connected" here.



Avoid it, if you wish to be taken seriously.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:25 PM

185. Does Hillary's exoneration today mean that Mr sanders is dismissed?

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Response to c588415 (Reply #185)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 08:29 PM

186. No

 

The way it stands as I understand is that The Sec. has like 2200 delegates and The Bernie has like I don't know how many but neither has enough.

TswayIunerstan

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Response to maindawg (Reply #186)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:23 AM

206. You appear to be sorely misinformed. FYI:

 

Democratic Delegates

Needed to win nomination: 2,383

Hillary Clinton: 2,811 (includes 591 superdelegates)

Bernie Sanders: 1,879 (includes 48 superdelegates)

Not yet allocated: 75

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #206)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:41 AM

210. First vote will not include the SD's.

 

Is that true?

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Response to peace13 (Reply #210)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:48 AM

212. Not true. The first roll call will include the supers. She will win in the first roll call.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #212)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:01 AM

213. Remembering that neither Clinton or Sanders have enough regular delegates..

 

...at this time to guarantee nomination. Is that true? I am confused. Is the roll call the second vote?

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Response to peace13 (Reply #213)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:40 AM

216. The numbers speak for themselves. Clinton has a majority of pledged "regular" delegates

 

and of pledged supers. 2,220 + 591 = 2,811 (2,383 to win).

She will win on the first roll call wherein both the regulars and supers will vote.

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Response to c588415 (Reply #185)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:59 AM

218. You must not have listened to Comey's statement. She wasnt exonerated

 

She was not "exonerated", she wasnt recommended for charges. Theres a big difference
"Exonerate" means "absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, especially after due consideration of the case."
That didnt happen

Regardless, trump will get nothing out of it cause HE"S incompetent

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Response to 7962 (Reply #218)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:37 PM

253. Actually my post was directed at Mr Sanders. What will it take for him to concede?

Lynch said today that Clinton's email case is " closed, kaput and done"

Hillary Clinton 2016

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 09:37 PM

187. Mahalo, Surya!

Yay!

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Response to Cha (Reply #187)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:33 AM

194. It's what we knew was coming, but nice to have it over...

 



However, Comey's self-servng broadside against her in the context of his recommendation NOT to bring charges, was unprecedented, unprofessional and patently partisan.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #194)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:42 AM

195. Is he repub?.. sounds like he should get blowback for this!

Thank you!

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Response to Cha (Reply #195)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:48 AM

198. Dyed in the wool...Special Counsel to the Senate White Water Committee, fer gawdsakes.

 

Appointed to the DOJ by GW Bush. Appointed FBI Director by BHO.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #198)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:52 AM

199. I wonder if Pres Obama regrets appointing him now?

ETA.. Hillary can appoint someone else, right?!

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Response to Cha (Reply #199)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:04 AM

201. You bet your bippy, she can. People are already joking that he'll be out of a job next January.

 

He really overstepped his brief and power there. Obama is probably disgusted at the partisanship and unprofessional demeanor.

If she was to be upbraided or sanctioned in any way, it is the Department of State that would be given the remit.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #201)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:07 AM

202. That makes me feel a whole hellava lot better, Surya! U2?

What an idiot! What was he thinking?

Thank you~

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Response to Cha (Reply #202)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:13 AM

203. The old adage comes to mind..."revenge is a dish best served cold".

 

He will live to regret that ill-considered, hastily-called press conference.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #203)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 04:15 AM

204. And, cold enough it will be.

His big mouth cost him his job.. I can't wait.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:24 PM

188. The second person to benefit the most from this announcement

 

after Ms. Clinton is Donald Trump.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2016, 10:24 PM

189. That was what I expected. What I think was inappropriate was for Comey to be so critical of Clinton

 

His job was decide whether prosecution was appropriate, not to assess whether she behaved well in general.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #189)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 03:43 AM

197. He overstepped his brief. As I said elsewhere:

 

Comey's self-servng broadside against her in the context of his recommendation NOT to bring charges, was unprecedented, unprofessional and patently partisan.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #197)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:46 AM

211. well-said

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #197)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:01 AM

219. The report would've been released anyway, saying the same thing.

 

he just released it himself. he was reading from the report, not editorializing

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Response to 7962 (Reply #219)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:24 AM

220. No, he was not reading from the "report" which has not even been completely drafted yet.

 

His open "speculation" that her server "could have" been hacked, while saying that there was NO evidence of it, would definitely qualify as "editorializing" and trying by public opinion.

When he made a point of giving his POV that "sanctions" should be the province of other agencies, that would qualify as "editorilizing".

It's NO accident that credible legal experts are unanimous in saying that his action in calling the sudden press conference and indicting her in the court of public opinion, was unprecedented and unprofessional.

He sole and unique job is to say "Yes" there are grounds for a case, or "No" there are not.

He overstepped his brief, egregiously.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #220)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:03 AM

223. But everything he said was going to become public.

 

His rationale was to get it out as the decisions were made.
And every credible legal expert watching that statement would have also been under the impression that they were going to recommend charges up until the time he said they werent.
Certainly we all can be happy that our candidate is not going to be charged (As I said all along, BTW), but the level of celebration really surprises me, given the facts released by the FBI. The transgressions are many; and lying to the government under oath is a big one. Not to mention the whole "never sent or received...." nonsense. Which I knew was double speak nonsense from the start.
But trump will still lose

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Response to 7962 (Reply #223)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:13 AM

225. You're taxing her with a charge of perjury?

 

The transgressions are many; and lying to the government under oath is a big one.


Well, that's one I did NOT hear yesterday.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #223)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 07:57 AM

258. Completely made up stuff = no lying to government, under oath. not even close to true.


Why would everything become public? Not typical.

Every credible legal expert? Many legal expert said months ago recommendation would be no charges because no intent.

Mistakes, yes - transgressions sounds more intentional?

NO LYING TO THE GOVERNMENT NEVER UNDER OATH - completely false. If there had been lying to the government, charges on that would be recommended - that alone is a felony. Many people who lie to the FBI go to jail (Petraeus did not).

Don't say things that are not true.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:13 AM

224. Well, that's odd.

 

When I was in the army, a Staff Sargeant got caught in a security sweep for leaving a file marked classified on his desk over night. They hit him with a $500 fine, busted in rank to PFC, lost his clearance and could only re-earn it by taking the Handling course again.

Probably everyone who has done time in the service has a story about someone getting dinged -and badly- for mishandling classified material. Stand by to hear every single one of them.

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Response to sangfroid (Reply #224)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:23 AM

226. Maybe they'll all show up in Philly?

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #226)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:56 AM

235. Could be. Who can say?

 

nt

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:55 AM

227. I know what would have happened to me if I was that "extremely careless" in handling classified data

I would have been slapped with an Article 134 at the very least.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #227)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:02 AM

228. So, Comey, the Republican appointee, who's been after the Clintons since his days as the White Water

 

Counsel, pulled his punches?

You're suggesting that he was unduly influenced by TPTB? Otherwise, he would surely have recommended bringing a case?

Interesting.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #228)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:13 AM

229. Take it any way you want. I know what would have been done to me as an E-4 back in 1970-73.

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #229)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:24 AM

230. I'm asking you. Are you saying that your commanding officer would've called for indictment

 

and a prison sentence, like many RWers are baying for? Draconian, indeed.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #230)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:26 AM

231. Don't know much about how the military works, do you?

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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #231)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:28 AM

232. No, that's why I'm asking you.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #232)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:07 AM

237. It's called Non-judicial punishment (or Article 15)

 

And permits a CO to issue punishment for infractions up to a certain level without going to a full-blown courts martial. If you require any additional info, please look up the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

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Response to sangfroid (Reply #237)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:05 PM

243. Inasmuch as this present investigation has absolutely nothing to do with the military

 

or its singular Code of Military Justice, I see so interest in pursuing any "additional info".

If and when said Code becomes germane to the discussion, I'll consider it.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #243)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:09 PM

250. Then why ask questions about it?

 

Alternatively, one might say that the moment your thoughts and points have anything of value to the discussion, we will consider them.

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Response to sangfroid (Reply #250)

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 01:09 AM

254. Your choice (and mine, of course) to assign value or not to any given exchange. Have at it.

 

"Then, why ask questions about it?", you inquire.

It's fascinating, from a psychological POV, to see how far people will go to defend their beliefs, to support a claim, or to confirm their cognitive dissonance. Makes for a compelling spectacle.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:33 AM

233. Disgusting.

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Response to Pryderi (Reply #233)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:38 AM

234. That was such vomit-inducing crap. He kept spewing about Comey's "lack of courage", but

 

maintained that he was NOT impugning Comey's integrity. Talk about twisting words.

What a shameful "journalistic" spectacle that was.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #234)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:37 AM

239. Disgusting that no charges were brought. n/t

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Response to Pryderi (Reply #239)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:56 AM

241. No, beg to differ. There was NO recommendation for charges to be brought

 

because there were no grounds.

Much as you and Joe Scarborough would like to think otherwise.

Comey, a Republican appointee, followed the lead of his career investigators.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:57 AM

236. Looks like Alan Dershowitz agrees with me about "marked classified"

As I posted in #98 in this thread.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/286614-did-fbi-director-comey-exceed-his-authority

Third, Comey used an unusual verbal formulation in discussing classified information. This is what he said:

"Only a small number of the emails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information."

He did not explain what he meant by the words "bore markings." Does this mean that they were stamped "classified"? Or does it mean that there were indications within the text of the emails that would show that it was in fact classified? The confusion was exacerbated by Comey's next sentence in which he said the following:

"But even if information is not marked 'classified' in an email, participants who know or should know that the subject is classified are obligated to protect it."

Comey's use of the words "marked classified" seems to suggest that there is a distinction between emails that were marked "classified" and emails that "bore markings indicating the presence of classified information."

This use of different verbal formulations suggests that none of the emails were actually marked "classified." I may be wrong in that surmise, but it is certainly suggested by how Comey used these different formulations.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #236)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:27 PM

248. Comey did his damn best to impugn Hillary's integrity by using weasel words that

 

"could" lead to the supposition that she was grossly negligent without him actually saying so. If "gross negligence" there was, then why didn't his investigators say so?

Second, it is unusual for an FBI director to express opinions such as the kind that Comey made in his statement. He said that Clinton had been "extremely careless" in her handling of sensitive material. That is not a legal concept, but to lay people it could sound very much like "gross negligence," which is one of the statutory criteria for bringing a prosecution.


The writer says calls it an "unusual verbal formulation"...I call it weasel words.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:33 AM

238. Told ya.

As I explained long ago, the Clinton email scandal is all about protecting the hundreds of former Bush Administration criminals who used private email servers to discuss actual crimes, then feloniously destroyed the emails.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1614952


The next President is going to have the responsibility of either prosecuting or not prosecuting the Bush Administration for its grand-scale felonious violation of the Presidential Records Act, in which millions of official government emails were illegally sent through the RNC email servers for years, then destroyed. To this day it is claimed that the emails are "lost," but I guarantee you that NSA, the Russians, and the Chinese all have 'em, because the RNC didn't protect those emails as well as they should have.

We are talking about a conspiracy conducted at every level of the executive branch for years, involving thousands of people, all of whom are looking at seven years in pound-me-in-the-ass prison for failing to document their work as our public servants....


To the above I would add that it has since emerged that Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice both did the exact same thing. That suggests still another exonerating factor for Mrs. Clinton, which is that the backdoor communications channel is an accepted method of American diplomacy. But whatever, the point here is to threaten Mrs. Clinton so that she does not render an entire generation of Republican administrators unfit for future public service. I hope that she burns it all to the ground as President and takes the risk that she too will someday face prosecution.

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Response to sofa king (Reply #238)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:16 PM

246. ^^^This!^^^

 

"...the Clinton email scandal is all about protecting the hundreds of former Bush Administration criminals who used private email servers to discuss actual crimes, then feloniously destroyed the emails."


I hope so, too:

"I hope that she burns it all to the ground as President and takes the risk that she too will someday face prosecution."

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:55 AM

240. You all can support Hillary and think she did no wrong, but I respectfully disagree.

As a 21yr USAF veteran that worked and lived in the military intelligence community; as a Geospatial Analyst (1N1X1) and a Fusion Analysts (14NX1) she violated many of the standards I was taught in 21 yrs. Yes, there was gross negligence on her part and her staff, what she and her staff did would never be accepted in any USAF intel facility or operation. There are so many checks and balances to prevent this, and what she did should have never happened. For example; Top Secret email chains on unsecure sever and net (do you all know that all DOD and Gov have a highly secure net and email communication server for this specific purpose), yes you have to have two email account one secure and not secure. Handling of classified material; did you know that you have to be trained annually on this (especially if it is TS-SCI material – one of the highest classifications, which is a completely different animal; this is the true need to know stuff here). I can let you know that to operate in these environments you are scrutinized daily to ensure compliance. Here is what you cannot do, enter a SCIF (Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility) with a personal cell phone or any electronic recording device, never leave the SCIF with classified documents without proper procedure to ensure security of said doc., you interest a USB into a secure computer all hell would break loose, and so much more. Again you can support her and say she did no wrong and she is vilified because of no charges, but I respectfully disagree. I have seen and know of military personnel who received loss of security clearances, administrative actions, discharged from the military for far less the what she did, and most were non-intentional just negligence on their part. What the FBI did was a slap in the face of the Intel community, and I am one who lost respect for Hillary. Yes, I did vote Bernie but would support Hillary, but this to me will really make me reconsider her.

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Response to MonteSS (Reply #240)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:01 PM

242. I'm sure Comey and C° would be grateful to hear your POV.

 

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Response to MonteSS (Reply #240)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:09 PM

244. "But this to me will really make me RECONSIDER her."

 

Yes, I'm SURE it will. How unfortunate.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:14 PM

245. You could also substitute

Rational and ethical. When it comes to the Clintons, many are willing and happily suspend any attempt at fairness or principles. We are more interested in tabloid journalism instead of factual journalism and when we don't get our way we yell "rigged" at the top of our lungs.

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Response to Loki (Reply #245)

Wed Jul 6, 2016, 12:18 PM

247. ^^^AMEN to this!^^^

 

"...when we don't get our way we yell "rigged" at the top of our lungs."

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