CIA Allegedly Ordered ‘Torture Cage’ at Secret Black Site Prison

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Source: ABC News / Raw Story

CIA allegedly ordered ‘torture cage’ at secret black site prison

By Muriel Kane
Friday, June 22, 2012 20:41 EDT

A Polish official claims that prosecutors in Krakow have proof the CIA wanted a special “torture cage” to be constructed at one of its secret “black site” prisons.

According to ABC News, the proof consists of a document showing that “a local contractor was asked to build a cage at Stare Kiekuty, a Polish army base used as a CIA prison for al Qaeda terror suspects in 2002 and 2003.”

Senator Jozef Pinior told the Polish paper Gazeta Wyborcza that he had not seen the construction order himself but that the prosecutor’s office has a copy of it. “In a state with rights, people are not kept in cages,” Pinior stated.

He said he was sure the cage was intended for humans, since there could have been no other purpose for it, and that a cage is “non-standard equipment” for a prison unless “torture was used there.”


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/22/cia-allegedly-ordered-torture-cage-at-secret-black-site-prison/

[Stuart G]

1. I hope this is true.and can be proven beyond doubt...Bush should be put there forever...nt

[lib2DaBone]

2. Austerity needed for the CIA... cut off all funds...

They don't need a "Torture Cage".

Austerity for DEA and TSA while we are at it.....

Cut off ALL FUNDS TO THESE SICK MOFO's.

[clang1]

3. The MOB - Under indictment(s) around the world

Someone asked why they called the MOB? Here is why: According to the paper’s source, there is no American signature “because they do not want to sign documents inconsistent with their own Constitution and international law.”
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/22/cia-allegedly-ordered-torture-cage-at-secret-black-site-prison/


And becasue they murder, torture and fucking kill people around the world and steal shit from people.

They also steal like to steal from taxpayers like so many others in our government do, e.g. all Booooschs no bid Pentacon contracts, etc.

Anyone Remember Dusty, what a cute name for a professional snake huh. Ah and Porter Goss...

Foggo Indictment Expected; Dark Day for the CIA
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2007/02/foggo_indictmen/

Federal prosecutors in San Diego are expected today to announce indictments in a case that involves the former No. 3 official at the CIA, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo, officials tell ABC News. Foggo, who served as the CIA’s executive director, was accused last year by fellow CIA employees of steering contracts for the CIA station in Iraq to longtime friend Brent Wilkes, a defense contractor whose activities also led to the indictment of former Republican Congressman Duke Cunningham. Officials said today’s expected indictments will also include Wilkes. At his home in suburban Washington, D.C., this morning, Foggo declined to comment to ABC News. Wilkes’ lawyer, Mark Geragos, also declined to comment. Click Here for Full Blotter Coverage. If Foggo is indicted, it will represent a dark day for the CIA and is expected to lead to a full congressional investigation of how secret CIA contracts are awarded. Foggo was promoted from a field logistics position to the powerful No. 3 position by Porter Goss when Goss took over the CIA. Goss resigned shortly after ABC News reported that Foggo was under criminal investigation, although officials say none of the allegations involve Goss. At the time, officials close to Goss dismissed the investigation of Foggo "as existing only in the blogosphere" and tried to discourage ABC News from reporting the story. Photos See the players in the CIA corruption case.

[clang1]

4. I can't see that the fucking thing was built

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but it would have been some justice if we ever got these people into a court room and could have put them into their own cage during the trials. Other torture facilities with cells have been found in Poland btw. Find your own links

Did the CIA run torture prison 'black site' in Poland?
http://www.theweek.co.uk/europe/cia-black-sites/47579/did-cia-run-torture-prison-black-site-poland#ixzz1yZxajGGU

Torture cage
"Is this standard for a prison? Yes, if it's one where torture was used," the senator claimed in an interview with the newspaper. "In a country where there is rule of law, normal prisons do not keep people in cages."

Poland Probes CIA ‘Black Site’ Prison
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/04/21/poland-probes-cia-black-site-prison/

The EP reminded its member states that “the prohibition of torture is a peremptory norm of international law (jus cogens) from which no derogation is possible,” and criticized “European countries [that] may have received, knowingly or unknowingly, information obtained under torture.”

Poland, Poland, Poland so eager to join the West, protect their new freedoms, that they played with the Devil. Glad not everyone is asleep there and I hope those interested in justice continue to move forward. This stuff is not going away. You don't just shit on the rest of the world like these people have done and get away with it.

When will people wake up, 9-11 did not happen because of We the People, it happened because of our government and what it does in the world. That's just my opinion, and fact so far as We the People. I am sick of taking it on the chin for suited thugs.


It would not surprise me that they wanted a cage for filming purposes as well. We all know the types of videos the CIA enjoys watching. Remember that folks.....

U.S. Says C.I.A. Destroyed 92 Tapes of Interrogations
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/washington/03web-intel.html

When does it stop people? We are dealing with pure f'ing evil here.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

5. No one, not one person, will be held accountable.

[clang1]

6. We will see

and don't forget how long it took to get Pinochet. It is not the same world today no matter how they, wish it were.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

7. We have seen. No one can deny that.

[clang1]

8. The Rogue state today is our own

in many ways, and we need to fix that. The current situation is an unacceptable and I can assure you the world demands this.

There are 121 signatories to ICC. Why aren't we yet...and we DO NOT need to be a signatory to the statute for these people to be picked up for prosecution either. No more travel for them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_parties_to_the_Rome_Statute_of_the_International_Criminal_Court

The States Parties to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court are those sovereign States that have ratified or acceded to the Rome Statute, the treaty that established the International Criminal Court. As of April 2012, 121 states[1] are states parties to the Statute of the Court, including all of South America, nearly all of Europe and roughly half the countries in Africa.[2] The Statute will enter into force for its 121st state party, Guatemala, on 1 July 2012.[2] A further 32 countries[1], including Russia, have signed but not ratified the Rome Statute[2]; one of them, Côte d'Ivoire, has accepted the Court's jurisdiction.[3] The law of treaties obliges these states to refrain from “acts which would defeat the object and purpose” of the treaty until they declare they do not intend to become a party to the treaty.[4] Three of these states—Israel, Sudan and the United States—have informed the UN Secretary General that they no longer intend to become states parties and, as such, have no legal obligations arising from their former representatives' signature of the Statute.[2][5] 41 United Nations member states[1] have neither signed nor ratified or acceded to the Rome Statute; some of them, including China and India, are critical of the Court.[6][7] The Palestinian National Authority, which neither is nor represents a United Nations member state, has formally accepted the jurisdiction of the Court.[8] On 3 April 2012, the ICC Prosecutor declared himself unable to determine that Palestine is a "state" for the purposes of the Rome Statute.[9]

The Court can automatically exercise jurisdiction over crimes committed on the territory of a State Party or by a national of a State Party. States parties must co-operate with the Court, including surrendering suspects when requested to do so by the Court.

States Parties are entitled to participate and vote in proceedings of the Assembly of States Parties, which is the Court's governing body.

[clang1]

9. USA For the International Criminal Court

http://usaforicc.org/about.html


About USAforICC.org
USAforICC.org is dedicated to building U.S. support for the International Criminal Court (ICC) in order to bring to justice criminals responsible for war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide when nations will not or cannot. The site was created to generate grassroots support for the ICC and make it easy for supporters to locate information and advocacy options.

Constituent contact is vital to the legislative process. National polls consistently find that between 60-70% of Americans support the U.S. joining the ICC, but our leaders do not hear enough from these pro-ICC constituents. For example, after Congress passed the anti-ICC American Servicemembers Protection Act (ASPA) in 2002, some congressional staffers admitted that anti-ICC letters played a key role in their members' decision to support ASPA. Some offices received as few as 15 or 25 such letters, but they made a difference because there were virtually no pro-ICC letters to balance them out. This is why we need your voice, too.
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[Rhiannon12866]

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