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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:30 PM Jun 2016

This new Utah poll is amazingly bad for Donald Trump

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by LostOne4Ever (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: washington post

No state voted more heavily for the GOP presidential nominee in 2012 than Utah. And in 2008, it was the third-most Republican state in the union.

A new poll shows that Donald Trump is tied with Hillary Clinton in Utah.

We're not quite saying, of course, that Utah is a tossup or that Trump is in real trouble in the ruby-red state — or even that it portends trouble for Trump in the 2016 presidential race, more broadly. There are plenty of factors at work here that are unique to Utah and the poll (which we will get to).

But it's also hard to overemphasize how unthinkable it is for a Republican — any Republican — to be tied in Utah in any poll.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/13/this-new-poll-utah-poll-is-amazingly-bad-for-donald-trump/

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This new Utah poll is amazingly bad for Donald Trump (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jun 2016 OP
Obama lost Utah 73 to 24. Thats quite an Earth moving shift. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2016 #1
because utah went all out for cruz Sunlei Jun 2016 #2
Cruz? This is post Cruz. 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #3
bogus headline olddad56 Jun 2016 #4
How? 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #6
Because the DUer said so, so there! Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #10
Mittens Romney told the Utah Repubs not to vote for Trump. kpola12 Jun 2016 #5
Trump and Hillary are at 35... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #7
Just because he's an adulterous casino owner? SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #11
Jesus, Hillary’s unfavorables are 67%!! Higher even than Trump's Arazi Jun 2016 #8
You said it man, GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #14
Notice the source of the OP SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #9
Good point!!! 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #12
Here's a pretty good explanation for that poll result: cloudbase Jun 2016 #13
Libertarian Party candidate and former Republican New Mexico governor Gary Johnson at 13 percent IronLionZion Jun 2016 #15
I think Johnson may win a few western states. roamer65 Jun 2016 #18
This election could give libertarians better ballot access in the future Person 2713 Jun 2016 #20
What do you call a person from Utah? Night Watchman Jun 2016 #16
Yutes Ptah Jun 2016 #17
If Trump loses Utah, then he cannot win in the electoral college Gothmog Jun 2016 #19
LOCKING THREAD AS ANALYSIS/OPINION LostOne4Ever Jun 2016 #21

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
1. Obama lost Utah 73 to 24. Thats quite an Earth moving shift. nt
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:35 PM
Jun 2016

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. because utah went all out for cruz
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jun 2016
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
3. Cruz? This is post Cruz.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jun 2016

"The poll was conducted by automated pollster SurveyUSA for the Salt Lake Tribune. It has Trump and Clinton tied at 35 percent, with Libertarian Party candidate and former Republican New Mexico governor Gary Johnson at 13 percent."

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
4. bogus headline
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jun 2016
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
6. How?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jun 2016
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
10. Because the DUer said so, so there!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jun 2016

kpola12

(78 posts)
5. Mittens Romney told the Utah Repubs not to vote for Trump.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jun 2016

The Utah Republicans will not vote for Trump unless their other choice is Hillary. Bernie could win Utah Hillary will not.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
7. Trump and Hillary are at 35...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:56 PM
Jun 2016

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
11. Just because he's an adulterous casino owner?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:18 PM
Jun 2016

Mormons take their rejection of worldly pleasures pretty seriously. When you can't drink tea because it has caffeine you're hardcore.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
8. Jesus, Hillary’s unfavorables are 67%!! Higher even than Trump's
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016
Trump is viewed favorably by just 20 percent of the state's voters and unfavorably by 65 percent.

Indeed, Trump's only saving grace here is that he's basically no more unpopular than Clinton, who is at 21 percent favorable and 67 percent unfavorable.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
14. You said it man,
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

Don't fuck with the Jesus.

If trump is not up by 40+ in Utah he is sunk.

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
9. Notice the source of the OP
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jun 2016

Trump said earlier he was suspending the press credentials of the lying deceptive Washington Post.
Muzzling the press is always the tyrant's first move.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
12. Good point!!!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

And Trump LOVES spouting polls. How DARE they have one not favoring him!!!

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
15. Libertarian Party candidate and former Republican New Mexico governor Gary Johnson at 13 percent
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

The L party is going to do better this year because Trump is so unpopular.

Mormons don't like the dude with his multiple wives and blatant adultery and general non-religious nonsense. He even claimed to support transgender use of bathrooms in Trump tower.

This years election has a lot of unique factors that we didn't have before. Like making history with our first woman president even thought much browner countries have gotten it decades ago. And having 2 popular republican governors running on the Libertarian ticket. Gary Johnson will do well out west. And Trump is such a pompous windbag buffoon that many sensible republicans just won't vote.


roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. I think Johnson may win a few western states.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jun 2016

He's definitely going to shift some of them into the (D) column and may take a few if Dump is the (R).

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
20. This election could give libertarians better ballot access in the future
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

They seem like assholes not an ideal 3rd party,plus one of the Koch bros said it is his goal to grow the lib party this election so I'm just stating it could happen not my wish.
Some of the Koch bros money they won't give trump may go to Johnson

 

Night Watchman

(743 posts)
16. What do you call a person from Utah?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jun 2016

Utahan? Utahn? And how is it pronounced? I'm not kidding here: I'm asking an honest question!

Ptah

(33,023 posts)
17. Yutes
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
19. If Trump loses Utah, then he cannot win in the electoral college
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

LostOne4Ever

(9,287 posts)
21. LOCKING THREAD AS ANALYSIS/OPINION
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

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