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Fri May 27, 2016, 08:59 PM

Trump tells California 'there is no drought'

Source: Associated Press

FRESNO, Calif. — Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump told California voters Friday that he can solve their water crisis, declaring, "There is no drought."

Speaking at a rally in Fresno, Calif., Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

"We're going to solve your water problem. You have a water problem that is so insane. It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea," Trump said to cheers at a rally that drew thousands.

Trump's rallies Friday in Fresno and San Diego drew vocal crowds of protesters, many carrying signs critical of Trump's plan to wall off the U.S. border with Mexico.


Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tells-california-there-is-no-drought/ar-BBtz6oK?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp



How can there be a drought? You turn on the tap, and water comes out.

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Reply Trump tells California 'there is no drought' (Original post)
TomCADem May 2016 OP
retrowire May 2016 #1
Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #9
zalinda May 2016 #22
MBS May 2016 #35
Cosmocat May 2016 #42
cadaverdog May 2016 #62
Ilsa May 2016 #70
potone May 2016 #51
saltpoint May 2016 #2
mwooldri May 2016 #47
saltpoint May 2016 #48
airplaneman May 2016 #65
OldRedneck May 2016 #3
Jack Rabbit May 2016 #4
saltpoint May 2016 #5
bucolic_frolic May 2016 #6
TeamPooka May 2016 #27
Scientific May 2016 #34
Cosmocat May 2016 #43
rurallib May 2016 #45
TeamPooka May 2016 #59
lordsummerisle May 2016 #7
LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #18
LiberalElite May 2016 #41
PatSeg May 2016 #54
olddad56 May 2016 #8
Tommy_Carcetti May 2016 #10
Person 2713 May 2016 #19
Ned Flanders May 2016 #24
sarcasmo May 2016 #58
milestogo May 2016 #11
Bayard May 2016 #12
hay rick May 2016 #13
AZ Progressive May 2016 #14
romanic May 2016 #15
silvershadow May 2016 #16
Kablooie May 2016 #32
SujiwanKenobee May 2016 #39
greymattermom May 2016 #40
Kablooie May 2016 #50
Cosmocat May 2016 #44
PatSeg May 2016 #55
SunSeeker May 2016 #17
hibbing May 2016 #20
Nirgendwo May 2016 #21
Hekate May 2016 #23
olddad56 May 2016 #25
olddad56 May 2016 #26
TeamPooka May 2016 #28
Kablooie May 2016 #29
MFM008 May 2016 #31
Bernardo de La Paz May 2016 #36
C Moon May 2016 #30
Bad Dog May 2016 #33
Vinca May 2016 #37
JustAnotherGen May 2016 #38
greymattermom May 2016 #46
PatSeg May 2016 #57
sinkingfeeling May 2016 #49
PatSeg May 2016 #56
saltpoint May 2016 #52
niyad May 2016 #61
saltpoint May 2016 #66
niyad May 2016 #67
saltpoint May 2016 #68
niyad May 2016 #69
NickB79 May 2016 #53
tabasco May 2016 #60
moondust May 2016 #63
Beartracks May 2016 #64

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:02 PM

1. Lines like this....

"Trump accused state officials of denying water to Central Valley farmers so they can send it out to sea "to protect a certain kind of three-inch fish."

Make me consider suicide at the idea that people are actually.... believing this bullshit.

I want to die.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #1)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:32 PM

9. I know what you mean. It's so depressing, for so many reasons, that

any person would for one second consider Trump qualified to be president of this country.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #9)

Sat May 28, 2016, 12:33 AM

22. That was said of Bush Jr, both times.

The Democrats never seem to learn.

Z

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Response to retrowire (Reply #1)

Sat May 28, 2016, 04:04 AM

35. " " " " n/t

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Response to retrowire (Reply #1)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:44 AM

42. Right?

THIS is why government is a mess here.

The stupid in this country hit a critical mass 25 years ago, and it has gotten incrementally worse every year since to this point.

Trump isn't the issue.

It is the people ...

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #42)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:22 PM

62. If I may, it isn't the people so much as it is

the results of the dumbing down of our educational systems, particularly our public schools. And this is exactly the way the oligarchy wants it; a low information public that is easily moved by emotional arguments rather than reasonable conclusions based on facts.
Without going on a long harangue about the state of our public schools, let me just offer,
"It's the education, stupid."

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Response to cadaverdog (Reply #62)

Tue May 31, 2016, 09:37 PM

70. Dumbing down of schools and blaming intellectuals

for problems, real and imagined.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #1)

Sat May 28, 2016, 09:01 AM

51. I have felt this way many, many times...

for the last 36 years. Hang in there, retrowire, we need committed young people like you to save our country and the planet. I don't mean to put any pressure on you, of course, but the world hangs in the balance in this election, so get your cohort to vote!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:06 PM

2. Damn those government officials anyway!

Creating a water shortage to save a 3-inch fish.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #2)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:24 AM

47. I don't think he's talking fish.

If I'm judging him by the content of his past speeches.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #47)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:26 AM

48. Yep. Trump is one crafty guy.

It's been a while since we've seen such a blustering egomaniac running for office.

Even George Wallace was more refined than this.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #47)

Sat May 28, 2016, 04:37 PM

65. I kind of seeing it this way.

There is only one cookie left and he is promising it to a 1000 people if he gets elected.
Then..................
Seriously I think if he is elected he could be the first failed presidency. The hell that would break loose would backlash to his demise.
-Airpalne

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:07 PM

3. Maybe Trump is planning . . .

 

Maybe he's planning to pull a Moses . . . you know, strike a rock with his walking stick and water gushes forth.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:08 PM

4. I'm in the Sacramento Valley

And Trump is even more of a Know-Nothing than I thought.

Hey, Donald, can I water my lawn again?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:08 PM

5. There would be plenty of water

available if Marco Rubio had not tried to drink it, spilling three-quarters of every gulp.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:13 PM

6. This is a rich story indeed

Trump is declaring war on every aspect of responsible environmental policy

I don't even think the MSM will let this one slide by

Trump is delusional beyond repair

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #6)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:40 AM

27. You overestimate the MSM.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #27)

Sat May 28, 2016, 03:51 AM

34. + 1

MSM, Inc. (R) is not into serving the American people as they demonstrate daily.

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #27)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:45 AM

43. lol

right?

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #27)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:54 AM

45. all the M$M cares about is a horse race so they can sell ads

so don't be surprised when "Trump says we are under attack by aliens" is treated as serious news by the M$M including the vaunted NPR

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Response to rurallib (Reply #45)

Sat May 28, 2016, 11:45 AM

59. yup

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:19 PM

7. Reminds me of

War is peace
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength

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Response to lordsummerisle (Reply #7)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:18 PM

18. Drought is flood

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #18)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:12 AM

41. Ignorance is genius

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #41)

Sat May 28, 2016, 10:53 AM

54. Exactly!

These low information voters gravitate to the most ignorant and baseless political rhetoric. It is really terrifying.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 09:27 PM

8. just Drumpfspeak for there is still a drought.

It doesn't really go away because Mr. Drumpf says it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:00 PM

10. He'll just water the plants with Brawndo.

Relax. Everything's going to be fine.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #10)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:24 PM

19. Good one

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Response to Person 2713 (Reply #19)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:20 AM

24. Camacho for Vice President!

 

Because fuck yeah!

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Response to Ned Flanders (Reply #24)

Sat May 28, 2016, 11:28 AM

58. The movie Idiocracy coming true, very scary.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:08 PM

11. I am beginning to think he is Sarah Palin's long lost twin

who was separated from her at birth.

"It is so ridiculous where they're taking the water and shoving it out to sea"

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:36 PM

12. What the hell is wrong with this man?!

I lived in Calif. for 12 years, and there were drought conditions the entire time. I was up in the mountains, about 40 miles east of Fresno. Luckily, we had a good well, because many others in the area were going dry, and they were having to dig new ones at 100 feet or better. Fire is a constant worry.

Trump wouldn't recognize climate change if it bit him in the ass. Those severe weather conditions in CA, along with the huge industrial farms like Boswell sucking every puddle dry, is the problem. Boswell drained the entire Tulare Lake a number of years ago, and no one did anything about it. Before he died, Mr. Boswell owned the largest private farm in America. Google it. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2009/jun/25/king-californias-central-valley/ is a good place to start.

No clue what Trump's talking about with some 3" fish. Doesn't sound like he does either. As far as people cheering him in Fresno, Central Calif. is a whole different animal than L.A. or the Bay. All I can say is that I ran into more pockets of red-necks there--some vicious--than I've ever seen in Kentucky. Glad to be home.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:45 PM

13. There's no drought, it just hasn't been raining very much.

I'm not growing a beard, I just stopped shaving.

Repulsive.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 10:56 PM

14. Trump is seeing how much he can get away with, how far will the chumps go

Or maybe Trump has been body snatched and is really doing all he can to ruin America?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:02 PM

15. And his followers will believe him hook line and sinker. :/

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #16)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:22 AM

32. This speech went over like gang busters with conservatives.

Read right wing comments. They are all cheering his speech as being precisely correct. They think its just what no one else has had the guts to say.
If he's trying to lose he's doing a bad job of it.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #32)

Sat May 28, 2016, 06:15 AM

39. Bet they think it is some sort of scientific government conspiracy

The government bugaboo is withholding water and chasing away rain clouds so it can take their land and send water to Liberal bastions.

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Response to SujiwanKenobee (Reply #39)

Sat May 28, 2016, 06:53 AM

40. The folks who got all the water

live in Houston.

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Response to SujiwanKenobee (Reply #39)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:56 AM

50. That's exactly it.

They talked about how liberals are trying to drive all the farmers out of California so the land can be given to environmentalists. They actually believe this.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #32)

Sat May 28, 2016, 07:53 AM

44. Bill Maher last night

had the cartoonist who does Dilbert on.

What he said was VERY sobering.

He is a trained hypnotist, and he said last summer Trump was going to in the general election in a landslide because what he is doing is textbook.

Basically people are truly irrational people, and that what trump does totally keys into it. Facts and reality don't matter, the more outlandish shit he says, the more it resonates.

This thing where he puts a word or two on people is masterful on his part.

He even said during a recent speech he did an AB test on audience with Hillary, kept saying, "which is better, crooked hillary or heartless hillary."

Kept working them back and forth to see which got the strongest reaction, and it was Crooked and he has stuck with it since.

He has been a high level huckster for decades, a master at separating people from their money.

Same process separating people from their vote.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #16)

Sat May 28, 2016, 10:59 AM

55. That is how I've felt many times

It is like he is having fun putting out the most outrageous things and watching people cheer him on. Meanwhile however, I think he started to like the idea of winning. Someone with an ego that big can't let go of the prize.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:08 PM

17. Trump is a pandering asshole.

He is just saying what Central Valley farmers, who have been denied their full water allotments, want to hear. Reality be damned.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 11:38 PM

20. 3 inches, like his hands? n/t

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Response to hibbing (Reply #20)

Sat May 28, 2016, 12:21 AM

21. heh heh heh

Thanks--I needed a chuckle.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:01 AM

23. Makes me want to pound my head against the wall. Trump can go pound sand.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:26 AM

25. he has the fake news media behind him, he can say whatever he wants and them walk it back..

when he wants to. If there was no fake news media like Fox, there would be no Donald Trump.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:27 AM

26. and if it floods, he can walk on that. He was Jesus' father in another life.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:43 AM

28. President Huckster. PT Barnum would be proud. nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:04 AM

29. Go to a conservative website and everyone is eating it up.

They swallowed it hook, crook and stinker.
I didn't read a single sceptical comment.

It seems he was advised by some California conservatives that gave him these "facts"

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #29)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:20 AM

31. how did they get so stupid?

Its beyond me to even think he could be president.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #31)

Sat May 28, 2016, 04:33 AM

36. Compartmentalized thinking, binary thinking, dogmatism, lack of critical thinking,

Some of a dozen attitudes held by Right Wing Authoritarian followers (aka Hair DrumpFührer supporters).

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:10 AM

30. After this quote, I'm pretty sure I'll be removing FaceBook friends in the coming days.

They'll be quoting him on this.
Insanity.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 03:02 AM

33. People would rather blame official incompetence/corruption

than face ugly truths. It confirms a lot of people's prejudices and means they won't have to change their lifestyles at all.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 04:46 AM

37. This must have been the same speech where he outlined his environmental policies:

"I want clean water. I want clean air." Phew! And I thought he was running on a dirty water, dirty air platform.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 05:25 AM

38. He's an idiot

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #38)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:18 AM

46. sometimes I think he can't possibly be that stupid

What is the real agenda? He's playing a reality TV character, right?

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #46)

Sat May 28, 2016, 11:03 AM

57. He is like a three year old

He will do anything for attention. He is addicted to it. He is playing a very dangerous game.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:42 AM

49. I'm waiting for him to tell the Born-agains that he'll

build a highway to heaven. They'll eat it up. Same people that claimed Harry Potter was satanic for using magic.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #49)

Sat May 28, 2016, 11:02 AM

56. And it will be a "great highway"

and "I'll make the atheists pay for it."

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 09:13 AM

52. It was 1900 and city authorities in Galveston

told people the coming storm was a chance to play in the surf.

Bring the kids! Pack a picnic! It will be a splendid day at the beach!

The Cubans tried to warn us that this storm was extremely dangerous. But the city authorities in Galveston weren't going to let a few nutty Cubans spoil a picnic day, nosirreebob.

Turns out, though, they should have listened to the Cubans.

https://www.nytimes.com/books/99/09/12/reviews/990912.12bolstet.html

_________

Mr. Trump doesn't want his supporters to pay attention to the climatologists. They might do well to ignore his advice.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #52)

Sat May 28, 2016, 01:45 PM

61. thank you for that link. somehow had missed that book.

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Response to niyad (Reply #61)

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:37 PM

66. Hi, niyad. It is a book that was

recommended to me, and I balked at first, then decided why not, and just jumped in.

I couldn't be reached for two or three days because I was just buried in that account of that hurricane.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #66)

Tue May 31, 2016, 12:33 PM

67. I always thought that galveston was one of those places that just should not have been built.

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Response to niyad (Reply #67)

Tue May 31, 2016, 05:00 PM

68. Yep -- a case could be made. Hurricanes must wobble

over to the Gulf, take one look at that Texas coast and say to themselves, "Now watch this."

Such a history of powerful storms, many with very sad outcomes.

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Response to saltpoint (Reply #68)

Tue May 31, 2016, 09:18 PM

69. I thnk you have that absolutely correct.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 10:16 AM

53. We laugh at Trump, but tens of millions think like him

And they still have enough clout that, after 50 years of science and evidence so obvious even a child can see, we're still twiddling our thumbs while the planet enters the largest mass extinction event in 65 million years.

And even those of us who recognize global warming aren't doing nearly enough to even slow it down at this point. CO2 emissions in the atmosphere are actually rising FASTER today than they were 20 years ago.

This folks, is why we aren't going to "solve" the problem of global warming. It's going to steam-roll us while we're too busy blaming each other for the hell we've unleashed upon ourselves.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 11:52 AM

60. So he thinks he's god now.

 

I would not trust this maniac with nuclear missiles.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 02:57 PM

63. The truth is

whatever you want to believe.

The single most consequential thing to be learned from Fox and Limbaugh, and largely responsible for the rise of the pathological liar.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat May 28, 2016, 03:17 PM

64. It's like saying climate change doesn't exist...

... because snow fell in D.C. during a winter month.






Arrogant ignorance = The Republican Brand.


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