Mon May 23, 2016, 10:38 AM
Bad Dog (2,025 posts)
Austria far-right 'narrowly loses poll, electing Van der Bellen president'
Source: BBC
Independent candidate Alexander Van der Bellen has won Austria's presidential election, preventing Norbert Hofer from becoming the EU's first far-right head of state, the BBC has been told. Mr Hofer led narrowly after Sunday's election but postal votes counted on Monday gave Mr Van der Bellen victory. Mr Van der Bellen campaigned on a pro-EU platform, backed by the Green Party. Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36362505
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Bad Dog | May 2016 | OP |
k8conant | May 2016 | #1 | |
Recursion | May 2016 | #2 | |
ChairmanAgnostic | May 2016 | #3 | |
David__77 | May 2016 | #4 | |
pampango | May 2016 | #7 | |
Bad Dog | May 2016 | #5 | |
LeftishBrit | May 2016 | #6 | |
Bad Dog | May 2016 | #9 | |
Judi Lynn | May 2016 | #8 |
Response to Bad Dog (Original post)
Mon May 23, 2016, 10:54 AM
k8conant (2,994 posts)
1. Good News...
Norbert Hofer would have been a disaster.
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Response to k8conant (Reply #1)
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:13 AM
Recursion (56,369 posts)
2. Looks like FPÖ carried Carinthia, Styria, and Tyrol, plus upper and lower
Damn... this is only going to get worse, too.
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Response to Bad Dog (Original post)
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:35 AM
ChairmanAgnostic (28,017 posts)
3. the toxicity that is Trump is having an impact on others
They see what a nut Trump is, and they won't follow suit, despite the immigration and economic issues that Europe faces.
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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #3)
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:55 AM
David__77 (21,018 posts)
4. I think it's quite the opposite causality, if anything.
Europe has had right populist or nationalist political movements on the upswing for quite some time. Until fairly recently, the mainstream of the US political scene was entirely internationalist and "liberal," in the way that this word might be understood globally.
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Response to David__77 (Reply #4)
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:19 PM
pampango (24,690 posts)
7. Good point. Europe has been dealing with Trump-like RW populist/nationalists for years
now. I sometimes wonder if Donald went to school on the European far-right. In reality I doubt he does that much political thinking.
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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #3)
Mon May 23, 2016, 02:25 PM
Bad Dog (2,025 posts)
5. I doubt Trump had much to with it.
Most politics are local, and in Austria it was a narrow split between those frightened by the influx of Syrian refugees and those who wanted a more inclusive engaged Austria.
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Response to Bad Dog (Original post)
Mon May 23, 2016, 06:53 PM
LeftishBrit (39,859 posts)
6. Breathing the most enormous sigh of relief!!!
I doubt that Trump has anything to do with it, except that both Europe and America have their far-right pseudo-populist movements. And have for some time. E.g. the worrying influence of the LePen party in France, Wilders in the Netherlands, and some scary right-wingers in Poland and Hungary. In Austria itself, the late Jorg Haider had a great deal of influence 15 years ago and his party was for a while in the governing coalition.
In America, people from Joe McCarthy to George Wallace to Jesse Helms have had terrifying influence over the years, though admittedly none of these was a main-party nominee for the presidency. While both Trump and Hofer are anti-immigrant, they are mainly preoccupied with different groups: Mexicans in the former case; Syrian refugees in the latter. |
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #6)
Tue May 24, 2016, 03:12 AM
Bad Dog (2,025 posts)
9. I think some Americans like to believe
the rest of the World pays as much attention to their politics as they do. It's not the first time I've seen Trump's influence being blamed on something completely unrelated.
The fear with Hofer is that he's keeping his powder dry for the next election when executive power is being voted on. |
Response to Bad Dog (Original post)
Mon May 23, 2016, 09:13 PM
Judi Lynn (151,934 posts)
8. Left-leaning candidate wins Austria presidency in tight race
Left-leaning candidate wins Austria presidency in tight race
George Jahn, Associated Press Updated 6:50 pm, Monday, May 23, 2016 VIENNA (AP) — A pro-European Union candidate eked out a victory Monday over a right-wing, anti-migrant rival to become Austria's next president, in a tight contest viewed Europe-wide as a proxy fight pitting the continent's political center against its growingly strong populist and anti-establishment movements. European mainstream parties joined Austrian supporters of Alexander Van der Bellen in congratulating him on his victory over Norbert Hofer, with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier declaring. "All of Europe is now breathing more easily." But with less than a percentage point separating the two, Hofer's Freedom Party and its allies across Europe also had reason to celebrate what they cast as a major political surge by one of their own. Hofer had been narrowly ahead of Van der Bellen, a Greens politician running as an independent, after the counting of votes directly cast on Sunday. But around 700,000 absentee ballots still remained to be tallied Monday, and those numbers swung the victory to Van der Bellen. More: http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Austria-Tight-presidential-election-reveals-a-7939373.php |