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Tue May 17, 2016, 06:49 PM

Sanders Statement on Nevada (official, full statement)

Source: Bernie Sanders

PRESS RELEASE


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders on Tuesday issued the following statement:

“It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy campaign contributors.

“The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change – people who are willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy.

“Within the last few days there have been a number of criticisms made against my campaign organization. Party leaders in Nevada, for example, claim that the Sanders campaign has a ‘penchant for violence.’ That is nonsense. Our campaign has held giant rallies all across this country, including in high-crime areas, and there have been zero reports of violence. Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked.

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned. I am happy to say that has been the case at state conventions in Maine, Alaska, Colorado and Hawaii where good discussions were held and democratic decisions were reached. Unfortunately, that was not the case at the Nevada convention. At that convention the Democratic leadership used its power to prevent a fair and transparent process from taking place. Among other things:

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.
The chair allowed its Credentials Committee to en mass rule that 64 delegates were ineligible without offering an opportunity for 58 of them to be heard. That decision enabled the Clinton campaign to end up with a 30-vote majority.

The chair refused to acknowledge any motions made from the floor or allow votes on them.
The chair refused to accept any petitions for amendments to the rules that were properly submitted.
“These are on top of failures at the precinct and county conventions including trying to depose and then threaten with arrest the Clark County convention credentials chair because she was operating too fairly.”

Read more: https://berniesanders.com/press-release/statement-nevada/

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Reply Sanders Statement on Nevada (official, full statement) (Original post)
Lodestar May 2016 OP
Katashi_itto May 2016 #1
RATM435 May 2016 #51
Stryguy May 2016 #76
Snarkoleptic May 2016 #82
Katashi_itto May 2016 #86
zentrum May 2016 #99
Duval May 2016 #2
Silver_Witch May 2016 #55
laserhaas May 2016 #85
William769 May 2016 #3
mcar May 2016 #6
Perogie May 2016 #8
William769 May 2016 #10
Fast Walker 52 May 2016 #23
JPnoodleman May 2016 #54
stupidicus May 2016 #18
sheshe2 May 2016 #9
brer cat May 2016 #16
retrowire May 2016 #20
brer cat May 2016 #26
retrowire May 2016 #28
brer cat May 2016 #31
retrowire May 2016 #32
SkyIsGrey May 2016 #77
saucy007 May 2016 #17
Enthusiast May 2016 #71
SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #89
Pacifist Patriot May 2016 #102
retrowire May 2016 #19
Enthusiast May 2016 #70
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UpInArms May 2016 #29
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SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #88
silvershadow May 2016 #4
mountain grammy May 2016 #5
RoccoR5955 May 2016 #7
Sancho May 2016 #11
retrowire May 2016 #15
John K May 2016 #39
retrowire May 2016 #47
Thespian2 May 2016 #53
retrowire May 2016 #57
Thespian2 May 2016 #58
retrowire May 2016 #61
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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 06:52 PM

1. k&R!!! Down with the Vichy Dems

 

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #1)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:53 AM

76. Here's a Sanders supporter being helpful!

Here's a Sanders support helpfully handing a chair to someone.



Stay Classy!

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Response to Stryguy (Reply #76)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:11 AM

82. Chair up, chair down, hugs, no throw.

I'm astonished that the "thrown chair" is such a focus, in light of the mischief of the party chair.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Bernie4People/status/732619789424832512/video/1

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Response to Stryguy (Reply #76)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:26 AM

86. A standard Deflection by corporates

 

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #1)

Wed May 18, 2016, 02:46 PM

99. Perfect term

…to describe them.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 07:13 PM

2. Thank you, Lodestar.

 

It is and is going to be a mess. And I predict a mass exodus if they continue this totally undemocratic crap. No, it's worse than that, it is Election Fraud perpetuated by the DLC, in MHO.

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Response to Duval (Reply #2)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:41 PM

55. Agree thank you Lodestar and it is a mess!

 

hoping democracy wins!

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Response to Duval (Reply #2)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:19 AM

85. Where's that damn "Like" button..when you really need it?

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 07:22 PM

3. Love your concession speech Senator Sanders.

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:03 PM

6. ...

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:17 PM

8. Your Post is a sad example of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat

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Response to Perogie (Reply #8)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:20 PM

10. His statement is a sad example of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat. nt

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Response to William769 (Reply #10)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:37 PM

23. why?

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Response to William769 (Reply #10)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:40 PM

54. Well at least he is a liberal, unlike a certain Clinton.

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Response to Perogie (Reply #8)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:34 PM

18. well, that's the thirdwayers way

 

the corporatist/fascist-lite wing of the party/many of its supporters have yet to realize that what liberal/progressive bones they have in their corrupted bodies are more than offset by their moneychanger support and admiration.

They kinda live in Bizarro World like their rightwing cousins, where up is down. That's why they can see concession speeches/statements that were never made.

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:19 PM

9. ...

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:33 PM

16. I support this message!

It may also be his farewell to congress speech.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #16)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:35 PM

20. see post 17 and pat yourself on the back. :) nt

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Response to retrowire (Reply #20)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:39 PM

26. Thanks, I will! nt

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Response to brer cat (Reply #26)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:41 PM

28. Cult of personality. nt

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Response to retrowire (Reply #28)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:48 PM

31. I agree to a degree,

but I don't think that all of the Bernie supporters drink the kool-aid. That would be painting with a broad brush, and I don't do that.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #31)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:52 PM

32. And you're confused. XD

Go on and celebrate the undemocracy that supports Hillary. I won't have any part of it.

Too cute.

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Response to brer cat (Reply #31)

Wed May 18, 2016, 06:20 AM

77. How you talk with that boot stuck on your tongue.

 

n.t.

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:33 PM

17. WTF

Your gloating arrogance in defense of outright cheating and voter suppression is disgusting.
What has happened to democratic values and principles ?

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Response to saucy007 (Reply #17)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:33 AM

71. Huge +1!

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Response to saucy007 (Reply #17)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:29 AM

89. +1000000

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Response to saucy007 (Reply #17)

Wed May 18, 2016, 03:44 PM

102. Amen! I'm thoroughly disgusted.

I don't care which candidate you support, but cheering disenfranchisement and the loss of the democratic process is appalling.

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:35 PM

19. wishful thinking hahaha

He spoke truth.

You mocked him rather than acknowledge how fucked up the events in Nevada were.

Your head is in the gutter. There are bigger problems right now.

And Bernie isn't the problem.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #19)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:32 AM

70. Huge +1!

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Response to retrowire (Reply #19)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:34 AM

72. Well....

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:42 PM

29. Hillary's to trump should be intetesting

N/t

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Tue May 17, 2016, 11:03 PM

63. ++++++

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Response to William769 (Reply #3)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:28 AM

88. Just horrible.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 07:30 PM

4. K&R

 

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 07:35 PM

5. K&R

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:07 PM

7. K&R n/t

 

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:24 PM

11. Sounds like farewell to me...Bernie knows it.

All Hillary has to do is get 27 delegates to stay on her target in KY. She only needs 24 in OR.

This primary is over. Hillary needs 142 to win. She will have less than a hundred after tonight. She will win 20-30 more in PR.

By June 7th, she could win enough delegates in Washington DC alone to win.

California and NJ won't even matter. There is no way for her to lose now.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #11)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:32 PM

15. thats some wishful thinking there!

And they say we Bernie supporters want rainbows and unicorns. XD

Farewell to that!

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Response to retrowire (Reply #15)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:12 PM

39. I don't get it - has math been abolished

Why can't you folks see that it's too late. Your guy is not going to win and is destroying any semblance of a mandate with the crap that his "Bernie Bros" are pulling. He should denounce that behavior categorically and talk about political process separately. If you can defend that actions reported by Salon, then there is no reasoning with you http://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/bernie_bros_out_of_control_explosion_of_misogynist_rage_at_nevadas_dem_chairwoman_reflects_terribly_on_sanders_dwindling_campaign/ . Ugly nasty people who cannot justify their behavior.

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Response to John K (Reply #39)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:34 PM

47. know whats cute?

You all seem to think this will all be over when the primary is done.

You all seem to think we Bernie supporters are going to just... Stop?

I'm not sorry to tell you this but, times have truly changed.

Get used to it.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #47)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:38 PM

53. Excellent!!

The cult of personality will not stop The Revolution...


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Response to Thespian2 (Reply #53)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:44 PM

57. im not fighting for Bernie. :) nt

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Response to retrowire (Reply #57)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:48 PM

58. I am fighting against the current rigged systems

Especially the 1% who control the country...

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Response to Thespian2 (Reply #58)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:52 PM

61. Yes nt

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Response to Thespian2 (Reply #58)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:36 AM

73. The current rigged system was in evidence in Nevada.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #73)

Wed May 18, 2016, 03:04 PM

100. Yep

The Machine is still at work in the Dem party...

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Response to retrowire (Reply #15)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:12 PM

40. Not wishful...that's the actual numbers...

stay tuned and watch.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #11)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:39 PM

25. that may be, but it doesn't excuse what happened in the Nevada convention

nor the other voting fiascos that have occurred in other states this cycle.

I'm not blaming Hillary, but our voting systems are a mess.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #25)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:11 PM

38. What's new???

It was that way for JFK and stealing votes in Chicago. How about the 1968 convention? It goes on and on. Florida in 2000? I personally saw a DRE flip votes in 2004 in Florida and got tossed out of the polls station for raising hell.

If you've been around politics, you know the US system is messy.

The primary in Nevada is nothing new or particularly important.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:27 PM

12. Sanders Statement on Nevada Convention

K&R

I proudly kick and rec this OP.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:31 PM

13. There goes Bernie again speaking the truth.

But I'll keep watching the Hillary Supporters celebrate this "undemocracy" because "she's winning".

This is a really sad time we're living in.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:31 PM

14. You don't combine a condemnation of violence with a justification

for violence in the same press release. An appropriate statement would have acknowledged and fully condemned the behavior of his out of control supporters and left it at that. Period. Instead, the statement denies that his supporters did anything wrong, criticizes state and national democrats, and then includes a completely irrelevant claim about his office being shot at. Does he really think a Hillary supporter did that? He's the pro-gun/NRA guy. Wouldn't a gun toting thug prefer Sanders?

At the end of the day, Bernie can't handle the fact that he's losing and this race is getting uglier by the day.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #14)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:39 PM

24. clearly hes saying in short...

"Ignore this at your own peril."

People are angry.

You Hillary supporters may get your way here but know that you are not in the majority.

Bernie supporters are likely more abundant, ignore all the voter fraud and suppression that has happened if you want.

Plus, combine them with all the Republicans who can't stand Hillary.

The country as a whole is majority wise, not very happy with Hillary.

Ignore that at our own peril. That's what I get from it.

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Response to retrowire (Reply #24)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:01 PM

35. If winning requires linking arms with violent, sexist jerks,

I'll pass. He can save his warning. He's not going to threaten me into submission.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #35)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:27 PM

45. theres vile sexist jerks on all sides.

Take your pick!

The supporters don't make the candidate though soo..

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Response to retrowire (Reply #24)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:52 PM

60. How can you keep saying this with a straight face?

 

"Not the majority" - NO we literally ARE the majority. It's why she is winning and dufus mcdipshit is behind by 3 million votes.

"Likely more abundant" - By what math? You may be more fervent and far more crazy, but abundance is not something you have.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #60)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:51 AM

75. REASON FOR ALERT

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

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Enough with the nasty name calling, Sen Sanders is still a Democratic candidate and deserves some respect here.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #14)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:15 PM

41. Time for the horseshit to end...

Show me a video of violence by Sanders supporters. Not yelling or name calling, either. Violence like a pack of assholes have claimed but provided no proof of since the weekend.

That's right-you can't. No chairs or bottles thrown, no rioting, just justified anger towards a Potemkin Village of pretend democracy.

The saying is "Sticks and Stones" and until I see film of those I will consider claims of violence to be the Bullshit they have proven to be so far.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #14)

Wed May 18, 2016, 02:11 AM

67. Spot on. eom

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:36 PM

21. well, rightwingers don't have a monopoly on the "ends justify the means..." use

 

and that's hardly the only thing Hillarians have in common with their rightwing cousins.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:36 PM

22. Kicking and Recc'ing for a Democratic awakening.

It is SO not over.

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Response to Drum (Reply #22)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:41 PM

27. Now the Clinton trolls will call you violent for "kicking"

 

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:45 PM

30. Instead of condemning the violence, Sanders just deflects and conjures excuses. Shameful. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #30)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:07 PM

37. Put on your reading glasses

He condemned the violence.

"
Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But, when we speak of violence, I should add here that months ago, during the Nevada campaign, shots were fired into my campaign office in Nevada and apartment housing complex my campaign staff lived in was broken into and ransacked."


Did HRC condemn the gun shots? Did you? If not—how shameful!

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Response to zentrum (Reply #37)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:59 PM

52. He did not even acknowledge the Nevada violence happened, let alone condemn it.

He does not even address the specific incidents of his supporters throwing chairs and calling Barbara Boxer a c*#t. No, like you, the only time he gets specific is when he deflects by referring to an unsolved incident of a shot fired into a campaign office. There was no indication it was by a Hillary supporter. In Nevada however, we know who threw chairs and called Barbara Boxer a c*#t: Sanders supporters.

If anything, his statement reads like a denial: "Our campaign believes in nonviolent change..." This despite video on CNN showing Sanders campaign staff the day before telling potential delegates not to leave the hall even when told to do so, and basically setting them up to brawl.


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #52)

Tue May 17, 2016, 11:16 PM

64. The Nevada chair...

…clearly over rode a voice vote. This deserved to be challenged. If the party is to survive at all, this kind of thing cannot be allowed.

The people in the room, Democrats all, demanded a head count. This is what you do and how you prepare to stand up to rigged rule systems. You know, like organized labor does. Like people protesting illegal wars do. Like the thousands who marched for Obama care when the Repugs were trying to block it,

Remaining in a room and not kowtowing to the party establishment is not being set up to brawl. Dear me—your clutched pearls are certainly in a tangle over the thought of defying authority.

But, speaking as a woman who has been against Hillary since her war vote, I guess I'm a thug.

Have a good evening.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #64)

Wed May 18, 2016, 12:20 AM

66. She did not override a voice vote; there were more Clinton Supporters there than Sanders supporters.

The convention rules were passed with the support with the support of nearly 100 more Clinton delegates than Sanders Delegates and the rules were passed in accordance with procedures the Sanders campaign had never objected to before Saturday. https://www.scribd.com/doc/312952650/nsdp

The Sanders supporters seemed to think that if they shouted louder, their voice vote counted more. That is not how voice votes work. Indeed, the Sanders delegates just did not seem to understand the rules. They thought they were somehow different than past years. In fact, they were the same as the last Presidential election:
2016 NV Rules: http://nvdems.3cdn.net/ea5a7f0df495b0cf4c_z2m6bnqh5.pdf
2012 NV Rules: http://nvdems.3cdn.net/93e6d8a5dd36cd22b4_brm6iivph.pdf

And the Sanders campaign made the ignorance worse by inciting a brawl:

CNN has audio of Sanders Aide Inciting the Nevada Convention Chaos

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/index.html

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.
"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."


http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/17/1527511/-Sanders-issues-statement-about-Nevada-and-it-is-horrible

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #66)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:47 AM

74. This argument is specious.

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The convention rules were passed with the support with the support of nearly 100 more Clinton delegates than Sanders Delegates


because 1. There was no count made of votes either way; 2. Unjustifiably assuming one side or the other will vote en masse one way or the other would render voting irrelevant anyway; 3. Delegates were still waiting to be accedited at the time, so the numbers voice-voting are not clear. (edit: and 4. Apparently there was a phase later in the day when delegates could 'realign' their support for either candidate )

This based on diverse hazy accounts such as (from a Clinton delegate) here.

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Response to Ghost Dog (Reply #74)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:10 AM

92. No one disputes that Hillary had more delegates at the NV State Convention.

* Based on the county convention results, Bernie Sanders had 2,124 delegate slots to the State Convention and Hillary Clinton had 1,722 delegate slots to the State Convention. 

* On Saturday at the State Convention, after all of the alternates were seated, Hillary Clinton filled 1,695 of her delegate slots and Bernie Sanders only filled 1,662 at the State Convention — giving Clinton a 33-delegate margin of victory. 

* Clinton only had 27 delegate positions vacant on Saturday. Sanders left 462 vacant. Clinton filled 98 percent of her available delegate slots at the State Convention, and Sanders only filled 78 percent of his available delegate slots. 

* In plain terms, the Clinton campaign organized and got nearly all of their delegates to the State Convention. The Sanders campaign did not.

* Six of the 64 potential delegates were seated as delegates after investigation. 

* The remaining potential delegates were ineligible for two main reasons: 1) They were not registered Democratic voters in Nevada by May 1, 2016, and 2) Their information — such as address, date of birth and name — could not be found or identified, and they did not respond to requests from the party and campaigns to correct it. 

* Only eight of the ineligible delegates even attempted to register at the State Convention. 

* The so-called “minority report” about these ineligible delegates was not written by the Credentials Committee — it was written by national Sanders campaign staff on site. A member of Sanders’ National Delegate Operations Team drafted and arranged for a member of that committee to attempt to deliver an incendiary report that caused chaos and violence at the convention. It was inaccurate, misleading and subsequently discredited by the Credentials Committee. 

* The Credentials Committee, the panel that made decisions on these issues, was co-chaired by supporters of both campaigns and the membership of the committee was also equally divided between supporters of both campaigns. This was done to ensure that the entire process was fair, transparent and accountable for both campaigns and their supporters. The committee worked diligently and cooperatively all day, under incredibly trying circumstances, to be fair and impartial in its work.


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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:52 PM

33. DWS had better take note. Roberta Lange is not the

person she needs to emulate at the nominating convention or we will see the destruction of the Democratic Party and any chance Hillary might have to win the GE.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 08:59 PM

34. Really great statement.

But it's starting to look like the party wants to purge us, even if the party shrinks. The calculus is that the old-style Republican voters will in fact become Democrats in name and there will be the clear neo-liberal party, called the New Democrats, and the other side will be the bat-cazy party, the Bagger-Republicans.

The plan is to get us out. They think we'll scatter, go passive and just yap at the edges—having no effect. Hope Bernie keeps organizing and inspiring after the general.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #34)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:17 PM

42. Have you guys any clue what you are saying?

Calling supporters of Hillary trolls and Republicans is not the way to grow the party. Its unfortunate that the vessel (Democratic Party) chosen to hold the "revolution" wasn't invited to the "revolution", so it has rejected the leader of that option. Get over it, and move on. Hillary has bitten her tongue off instead of criticizing Bernie's lack of support for progressive unity and still he keeps on being passive aggressive. The "my headquarters were shot at is classic deflection and non sequitur."

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Response to John K (Reply #42)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:33 PM

46. Guess the point eludes you.

It's Bernie who's brought in millions of new Democrats, first time voters many of them. That's the future.

Hillary has 1.5 million small donors. Bernie has 12.5 million. It's Bernie who is growing the party. Bernie has raised more money than any other candidate in the history of primaries and none of it corporate or PAC money. It's from energized Democrats. He's raised more than Obama did.

Bernie has rallies with 10 and 12 thousand people across the country. Hillary has rallies of several hundred.

Democrats have been alienating progressives from the party since at least 1998. Please don't lecture us about 3rd way, "progressive" unity.

And BTW, facts are not "deflection". They are inconvenient, no doubt. But facts are spot on.

Have a good evening.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #46)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:40 PM

48. Stop Making Sense

The Hillbots know what's right. Us Berniacs just want our free cake and stuff.

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Response to chwaliszewski (Reply #48)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:45 PM

49. Yeah! Where's my stuff?

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Response to zentrum (Reply #46)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:38 AM

90. Hillary supporters can't hear you! All they care about is she's "winning".

So far, anyway.

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Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #90)

Wed May 18, 2016, 02:45 PM

98. The Clintons

…have always demonstrated that they care more about their own power and place in history than the welfare of the Democratic Party. Or Democratic policies. Both are just a means to an end for them—namely, the greater power of Clinton, Inc.

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Response to John K (Reply #42)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:42 PM

56. The party doesn't want liberals, we don't owe the party fealty, it owes us a reason to support it.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:02 PM

36. I hear echoes of Ted Kennedy in 1980. nt

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:19 PM

43. People with power never give it up without a fight.

 

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:23 PM

44. Weak!

So this presidential wannabe is saying that since things didn't go his way so it was perfectly fine if his shock troops got violent and started threatening other Dems, and no one should have called the cops because he wasn't being treated fairly.

He just gave his believers a free pass to be as violent as they like.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 09:54 PM

50. K&R For Bernie!

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:51 PM

59. Some statements should never be followed by a "but"

This is one of them:

"Our campaign of course believes in non-violent change and it goes without saying that I condemn any and all forms of violence, including the personal harassment of individuals. But..."

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Tue May 17, 2016, 10:53 PM

62. I'm not familiar with Roberts Rules, but did the Chairs' voice vote break the rules?

The chair of the convention announced that the convention rules passed on voice vote, when the vote was a clear no-vote. At the very least, the Chair should have allowed for a headcount.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 12:13 AM

65. Once again, Bernie gets it right.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 02:15 AM

68. "imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect"

“If the Democratic Party is to be successful in November, it is imperative that all state parties treat our campaign supporters with fairness and the respect that they have earned."


Just heard this in an NPR news update. Objectively speaking, it doesn't sound like a rational statement.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 05:27 AM

69. K&R! Obviously this post deserves hundreds of recommendations.

Supporters of Hillary, are you going to allow the party to seal her fate? It won't be pretty.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:01 AM

78. K & R N/T

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:55 AM

79. Kicking nt

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 07:56 AM

80. And I would add -

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” John F. Kennedy

I voted for every democratic nominee in this party from 1992-2012. I feel like I didn't leave my party - my party left me.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:10 AM

81. That sure speaks for itself

Harassment, threats, and intimidation are allowed if Bernie supporters are outraged. They're just defending Bernie from the Democratic party establishment.
The credentials committee was made up of equal numbers of Sanders and Clinton supporters.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:16 AM

83. TLDR version

See what you made me do?

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:17 AM

84. K&R ....thanks...and WOW ..never heard of the shots

And break in/ ransacked

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 08:37 AM

87. Nevada conv. is how Hillary will govern - she's got Wall Street debts to pay, fuck everyone else

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 09:58 AM

91. Jesus! And all Rachel reported was that Bernie issued a half-hearted

statement about not supporting violence and then a warning to the Party! Nothing about the shots or ransacking, nothing about what the NV Dem Party did to fuel this. She actually looked like her head was going to explode at the time -- a vehement look of scorn on her face. A scowl!

The hell with Rachel! And Chris Matthews -- he was probably worse -- his face turnerd beet red in discussing Bernie and Nevada. The hell with him too!

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Response to KPN (Reply #91)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:35 AM

93. The "shots" and "ransacking" were red herring deflections.

Those two unsolved random incidents had nothing to do with the Clinton campaign, nor was there any indication either one was done by a Clinton supporter. It was really dishonest and inflammatory of Sanders to bring them up in a statement that was supposed to be a condemnation of, not an excuse for, the Sanders supporter violence. The NV State Convention riot was indisputably by the Sanders supporters and instigated by the Sanders campaign.

CNN has audio of Sanders Aide Inciting the Nevada Convention Chaos

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/17/politics/democrat-bernie-sanders-revolt/index.html

But new audio obtained by CNN shows a senior Sanders aide -- on the eve of the Nevada convention -- encouraging the senator's supporters try to "take over" the convention, change party rules and continue the "revolution" that Sanders has long campaigned on.
"You should not leave," Joan Kato, the national delegates director, told Sanders supporters in a meeting last week at the Rumor Boutique Hotel. "I'm going to repeat that, unless you are told by someone from the campaign ... that you can leave, you should not leave."


http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/17/1527511/-Sanders-issues-statement-about-Nevada-and-it-is-horrible


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #93)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 AM

94. Lol!!!! The NV convention "riot"!!!! Hahaha ...

you folks sure have your panties bunched up over the fact that people are standing up to authoritarian, intolerant and corrupt leadership.

BTW, how's the surf been?

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Response to KPN (Reply #94)

Wed May 18, 2016, 11:47 AM

95. In keeping with your candidate, all you offer are deflections and insults.

And in response to your question, the conditions here in California have been great, especially for Hillary.

Hopefully when your candidate finally concedes you can go back to being decent to your fellow progressives.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 12:54 PM

96. I'm amazed ANYONE supports HRC after what happened in NV

amazed, not surprised, sadly. We all saw what happened on film, the alleged chair being lifted and put down being framed as 'throwing chairs'. Continually lying has DISCREDITED HRC and all supporters, paid and not--sorry.

Bernie is staying in, and so are we.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 01:44 PM

97. Excellent statement

The people have a right to be angry without causing harm to one another or private property. What we witnessed in Nevada was a farce and for the DNC Chair to condemn the Sanders Campaign instead of the actual perpetrators just proves how far the party has fallen. I'm surprised HRC hasn't said anything about how the rule of law was undermined, especially since she "believes" in fair and honest elections.

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Wed May 18, 2016, 03:23 PM

101. K&R

#I'mwithhim

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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Thu May 19, 2016, 01:30 AM

103. Sanders is the one with a choice to make. And he had a choice before entering the race. Either

 

abide by the rules when you signed up of or don't run. No rules are going to be changed just because he wants Independents to vote for him. let them register as Democrats within the proper time frames if they want to vote in Dem primaries. otherwise STFU!

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