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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:20 AM Jun 2012

FBI: 4 percent decline in violent crime

Source: AP


Monday, June 11, 2012

(06-11) 06:42 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

The FBI says the number of violent crimes reported to police fell 4 percent last year when compared to 2010 and the number of property crimes went down 0.8 percent.

The bureau says that murder and non-negligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault all went down in 2011.

The preliminary data is based on information the FBI gathered from 14,009 law enforcement agencies around the United States.




Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/06/11/national/w064215D82.DTL

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FBI: 4 percent decline in violent crime (Original Post) cali Jun 2012 OP
Don't know where they're getting their data from OhioChick Jun 2012 #1
This is all the states combined. SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #3
Anecdotes = on the rise, please recalibrate your equipment accordingly. AtheistCrusader Jun 2012 #4
Cleveland. Twice as safe as Detroit. ChromeFoundry Jun 2012 #6
Anecdotes =/= trends 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #12
There were 22 less murders in 2011 in Cleveland Lurks Often Jun 2012 #15
And the cause of the reduction is. . . .? h2ebits Jun 2012 #2
Absolutely SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #5
I suspect it has to do with the ongoing increase in the median age slackmaster Jun 2012 #13
More people with guns worries the criminals? L0oniX Jun 2012 #7
There was a study done SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #9
Maybe this has something to do with it... ChromeFoundry Jun 2012 #8
And though this has been the consistent trend for almost 4 decades, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #10
That how we roll. nt SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #11
It's not unlike the Depression. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #14

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
1. Don't know where they're getting their data from
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jun 2012

Not in Cleveland, anyway.

Four men shot, woman stabbed in five separate incidents in Cleveland

Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/four-men-shot-woman-stabbed-in-five-separate-incidents-in-cleveland#ixzz1xUwpMtXQ

And from last night:

Man shot at West 10th Street and St. Clair Avenue in critical condition

Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/Man-shot-at-West-10th-Street-and-St-Clair-Avenue-in-critical-condition#ixzz1xUxD5fhO


Violent crime has been on the rise and happening nightly for some time now. Yet, they're still laying off police.

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
3. This is all the states combined.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jun 2012

Violent crime has been on a downward spiral nationwide for 20+ years now. Gun crime has dropped also in that time frame and yet there are more firearms in private hands now, and before anyone jumps on me, no, I am NOT saying that more guns=less crime, all I'm saying is more guns do not=more crime, the reason for the drop in crime rates are many, better policing, baby boomers retiring, just to name a few. I remember several years ago when FL became the first state to go shall issue for concealed carry and people went nuts claiming that there would be blood in the streets, shootouts over parking spaces, shootings because of road rage, for the most part, it didn't happen and now we have 49 states with some sort of CC laws on the books.

Were there incidents like I described above, yes there were, but there wasn't rivers of blood in the streets like the naysayers claimed would happen. If it were true, then every last CC law in every last state would have been repealed, instead we see guns laws becoming more liberal as more states realize that the law abiding citizen who takes the time to incur the expense and goes through the CCW class are not the problem, it's the criminal element, that aren't going to obey gun law in the first place, that are the problem.

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
6. Cleveland. Twice as safe as Detroit.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

Good thing you live in Cleveland because you only have a 1 in 71 chance of being a victim of a violent crime.
In Detroit your odds are 1 in 41.





Source: http://www.neighborhoodscout.com

h2ebits

(632 posts)
2. And the cause of the reduction is. . . .?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jun 2012

In the past, when the economy tanked the crime rate went up.

Is there a theory as to why we are seeing a reduction in crime rates in this nasty economy?

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
5. Absolutely
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jun 2012

the better the economy gets, the more the crime rate goes down.

Why can't the repukes understand that? Oh I'm sure they do, but it wouldn't fit their agenda to tar and feather Pres. Obama.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
13. I suspect it has to do with the ongoing increase in the median age
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:47 PM
Jun 2012

The graying of America, specifically a reduction in the percentage of the population that is demographically most at risk for both committing and being a victim of violent crime - Males age 17 - 24 or so.

 

SGMRTDARMY

(599 posts)
9. There was a study done
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:10 PM
Jun 2012

I don't remember who did it, but several convicts were interviewed and they said that they feared the armed citizen more than the police, and that they would much rather do a burglary during the day when chances were that the home owner wouldn't be home for fear of being shot.
Criminals are going to go after much more vulnerable victims rather than someone who can protect themself, and sometimes it backfires on them because of CC laws.

ChromeFoundry

(3,270 posts)
8. Maybe this has something to do with it...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jun 2012
"the number of violent crimes reported to police fell 4 percent last year"


We have a lot less police, fire and EMT workers employed by the cities in the US due to the economy. I think more crimes go un-reported now than even a few years ago.
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. And though this has been the consistent trend for almost 4 decades,
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jun 2012

fear of the absurdly unlikely increases yet again.

I swear, if Americans all lived in secured palaces bordering golf courses on streets paved with gold and all the guns in the world simply disappeared, they'd still find something to be irrationally terrified of.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
14. It's not unlike the Depression.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jun 2012

Violent crime rates dropped to very low then, but everyone was afraid of their babies being kidnapped because of what happened to the Lindbergh baby.

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