Bernie Sanders to Talk About the ‘Idolatry of Money’ at Vatican

[Purveyor]

Source: Time

“You can’t have a moral economy when so many people are living in poverty.”

by Tessa Berenson , TIME APRIL 8, 2016, 3:08 PM EDT

Bernie Sanders will speak about the “idolatry of money” during his trip to the Vatican next week, he says.

The Vermont senator revealed his plans in an interview with the Guardian, while also praising Pope Francis for supporting economic justice.

“What the Pope has been clear about is linking the issue of morality with the global economy and making the point that you can’t have a moral economy when so many people are living in poverty,” Sanders told the paper. “He has raised the issue more than any other person on the planet and I am very proud to be with him in the Vatican.”

Sanders will be in the Vatican for a conference on April 15. It has not yet been determined whether he will have a private meeting with Pope Francis.

Read more: http://fortune.com/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-to-talk-about-the-idolatry-of-money-at-vatican/?xid=gn_editorspicks&google_editors_picks=true

[Dragonfli]

1. Now I see why the Conservative Democrats (sounds like an oxymoron) are so angry

Idolatry of money is the true religion of Conservatives of all parties, this is a direct assault on their GOD!!

[moondust]

3. ^^^

Yep.

[bemildred]

42. Or this way:

Notice what's shiny.

[jillan]

2. But but but I read on DU that he wasn't even going to speak.

[chknltl]

12. I also learned here that Bernie requested this.

Amazing the the things one who might not know better might learn on DU these days.

[frylock]

15. And it was a certainty that he was NOT going to meet with the Pope. Done deal.

A trifecta of fail.

[pnwmom]

22. Here is the schedule with all the speakers. He's not listed.

He's not even listed among the 23 participants. But if you go to the very last page, you can see him on the list of 6 "other participants."

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

[Major Hogwash]

28. He's not going to speak. They're going to tie his hands together in an attempt to silence him.

Just to see if he can talk without using his hands!

[geek tragedy]

36. he isn't listed as a speaker on the programme.

not even an A-List participant

[JCLNH]

4. And then send out a fundraising letter asking for $27

[LiberalElite]

7. Yes, $27.00 is the average donation from average Americans

as opposed to the $2,700 that you'd have to shell out to hear Clinton. Your point is?

[840high]

9. From honest people - not corporations

and other fat cats.

[frylock]

16. I'm not kidding, Maddi!

[bvar22]

5. There IS a New Religion in town!

This new religion demands absolute Blind Faith Devotion to an invisible Deity for which
no concrete evidence exists.
In fact, all real world evidence contradicts the existence of this new deity, yet our leadership uses this deity to justify Economic Policy that negatively affects Billions of people,
but enhances the fortunes of the privileged handful who sit on the gilded thrones of the 1%.



[font color=white]..........................[/font][font size=4]The Graven Image on the altar
[font color=white]................[/font]of the Church of the Invisible Hand[/font]

[MisterP]

6. a lot of scholars say that even basic economic theory is way stranger than anything

any theologizer has come up with, and that includes "Christianity without Christ"

[LiberalElite]

8. Meanwhile, Hillary will be worshipping at that altar nt

[DemocracyDirect]

17. And speaking at the alter of Goldman Sachs.

Ouch that's going to hurt.

[reddread]

19. I wonder what she is doing tonight?

I bet its fun.

[Babel_17]

10. Excellent topic (nt)

[SoapBox]

11. Another example of why we so badly need him as President.

He travels to the Vatican to speaks...she travels to Hong Kong for a fundraiser hosted by a former Goldman Sachs creep.

A perfect contrast.

[pnwmom]

23. He has not been given a speaking spot. Here is the conference:

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

You can find his name on the very last page, as one of 6 "other participants.'

[MrMickeysMom]

32. He's always been focused on the issues...

Finally, someone wants to talk with him.

[dinkytron]

13. I predict the Pope and Bernie become best bros.

[frylock]

14. There was not one thing these idiots here got right in their attempt to smear Bernie.

[SunSeeker]

30. Well...turns out Sanders wasn't invited by the Vatican, and he won't be meeting the Pope.

The Sanders campaign made the announcement on Friday as the Vermont senator made the rounds on the morning television news shows. Mr. Sanders, a Democratic presidential candidate, said he would take a break from campaigning in New York, just days before the April 19 primary there, to attend a conference hosted by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, a scholarly association in Vatican City that was established by Pope John Paul II in 1994.

Mr. Sanders did not initially correct interviewers who suggested that he would meet with the pope, but he later clarified that he had not confirmed whether the two men would actually meet.

Further confusion about the trip bubbled up on Friday afternoon when the Vatican press office made clear that it had not issued the invitation, but that it had come from the academy. It said that there was no indication that Mr. Sanders would meet with Francis.

Meanwhile, Margaret Archer, the academy’s president, told Bloomberg News that Mr. Sanders had actively solicited the invitation for political purposes.

“Sanders made the first move, for the obvious reasons,” Ms. Archer said. “I think in a sense he may be going for the Catholic vote, but this is not the Catholic vote, and he should remember that and act accordingly — not that he will.”

But hours later, Monsignor Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, a senior papal official and the academy’s chancellor, denied that Mr. Sanders had invited himself to the event. He told Reuters that it was his idea to invite the senator.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/08/bernie-sanders-accepts-pope-franciss-invitation-to-travel-to-the-vatican/

And it appears Sanders will not be meeting with Pope Francis, who will be in Greece April 14-15.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0X227F

[Dont call me Shirley]

34. The statement by Ms archer has been refuted.

[SunSeeker]

35. Only by her subordinate, Monsignor Sorondo.

The actual bylaws of the Academy state:

http://www.pass.va/content/scienzesociali/en/about/statutes.html

The President is nominated by the Supreme Pontiff, to whom he reports directly. The President remains in office for five years and his mandate may be renewed. He is directly assisted by the Chancellor, who is nominated by the Supreme Pontiff.

So the President (Archer) is nominated by the Supreme Pontiff, to whom she reports directly. The President remains in office for five years and her mandate may be renewed. She is directly assisted by the Chancellor (that is Sorondo, who issued the invitation to Sanders). Assistants assist their superiors.

[Dont call me Shirley]

38. Her name was included in the invitation...

"An invitation to Sanders dated March 30, which was emailed to Reuters, was signed by Sorondo and also included Archer's name."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senior-papal-official-untrue-sanders-invited-himself-vatican-173414032.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

[SunSeeker]

39. Yes, that is why she was unhappy about it. Apparently no one ran it by her. nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

40. And that evidence is where?

[SunSeeker]

41. That is what she said.

It basically comes down to a he said she said dispute between her and the Chancellor.

[LovingA2andMI]

18. When Has U.S. Presidential CANDIDATE...

Been invited by the Vatican, in the middle of the election, to speak on anything?

And that is the point. For the Vatican, who does nothing of the sort like this without the approval of the Pope, is absolutely amazing.

I hope, with such, Bernie is allowed to speak on the camera with The Pope about this subject - for everyone to see.

This is a very impressive invite for Bernie, indeed on a subject he knows plenty about.

[snagglepuss]

24. Sorondo got flack for not inviting climate change skeptics to a global warming summit,

a subject from what I have read is as important to him as poverty.

He seems to be someone willing to out on a limb as is Francis. I think both understand that the world is in a very precarious state and have taken this bold step. Of course there will be official denials that the Pope knew about the invite.

[leftofcool]

27. Actually, no. The Pope will be gone. He will be at a conference in Greece.

[A Simple Game]

33. It's not true, none of it. I know because I read it on DU from all of the

people with the big H in their posts.

There was no invitation and even if there was Bernie asked for it himself. There are even serious doubts about whether there is even a Pope and if there is if he probably isn't Catholic!

From what I have gathered all the video of the event will be filmed in the desert outside of Las Vegas. It'll be a lot easier this time, they won't have to fake the low gravity.

Must suck to be Hillary, why Bernie isn't even Christian. How dare the Pope invite that commoner but not invite the future Que... err, future President of the United States.

I would love to be in the room when she finds out she lost the primary in New York.

[elmac]

20. Michigan republicans are meeting in Lansing next week

& I'm sure they are going to be talking about how much they idolize money.

[pnwmom]

21. How's he going to do that when he doesn't have a speaking spot at the conference?

Here's the conference schedule. You can find his name. But not on the schedule listing speakers. And not on the list of 23 "participants." He's on the very last page, with 6 "other participants."

http://www.pass.va/content/dam/scienzesociali/booklet/centesimus_annus.pdf

[SunSeeker]

25. Wow. LOL

[itsrobert]

26. Meanwhile the Vatican sits on Billions of dollars

Talk about the "idolatry of money".

[SunSeeker]

29. Yes. Kind of amazing to watch progressives gush over the Vatican. nt

[okasha]

31. I think this is the first time

I've seen some of the Bernie folk post about the Vatican or the Pope without using the word "pedophile."

Amazing grace!