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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:35 PM Jun 2012

Dylan Ratigan Leaving MSNBC

Source: New York Times

June 10, 2012, 5:01 PM

Dylan Ratigan Leaving MSNBC

By BRIAN STELTER

Dylan Ratigan, the opinionated and sometimes hotheaded television host, is leaving MSNBC, the cable channel where he has worked for the last three years.

Mr. Ratigan, whose news analysis show is now broadcast at 4 p.m. Eastern time, said in a telephone interview that he was electing to leave cable so that he could put into practice what he has talked about on TV. Mr. Ratigan has attacked political systems, corporations and special interests on his show and promoted movements for job creation, bank reform and campaign finance reform in the past.

“Once you’ve said your piece, you can either keep saying it — and then it’s a job, good job, pays well, everybody knows your name, it’s great — or you can decide what you’re going to do about it,” he said. “And the answer is, I don’t know. But I do know, in order to figure it out, I have to dismount.”

On MSNBC, Mr. Ratigan will be replaced by the man whose show precedes his at 3 p.m., Martin Bashir. MSNBC staff members were told of the changes on Sunday afternoon after a reporter inquired about the plan.


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Dylan Ratigan Leaving MSNBC (Original Post) Hissyspit Jun 2012 OP
Good riddance Politicalboi Jun 2012 #1
I was shocked at how bad he treated Ed Schultz! coldbeer Jun 2012 #82
what'd he do to Ed Schultz? nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #106
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #123
Good. lamp_shade Jun 2012 #2
I'm not really a fan, though I fishwax Jun 2012 #3
I couldn't take him for to long. He is such a bag of wind. southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #4
I tried to like his show aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #5
Exactly. I couldn't take that false equivalence crap. nt SunSeeker Jun 2012 #19
I won't miss him. His ego is larger than asjr Jun 2012 #6
In the dictionary, next to "pompous ass" they have his picture tularetom Jun 2012 #7
I'm one of the few here who kind of liked him OKNancy Jun 2012 #8
You're not alone! I did, too! citysyde Jun 2012 #12
I thought his Wall Street experience and prouducer for top MSNBC Show gave him special Outlook KoKo Jun 2012 #30
I agree, he had great commentary on the corporate power structure wordpix Jun 2012 #120
Dylan wasn't a cheerleader ... earthside Jun 2012 #48
Same here. I liked the lessons, too. nt valerief Jun 2012 #60
Me too, some people though don't like it when another tells it like it is. nt Raine Jun 2012 #73
I think you're not as isolated as you may think demwing Jun 2012 #79
I liked him onpatrol98 Jun 2012 #84
If ONLY they'd drop Joe Scarborough. He's been kept artificially alive by MSNBC. Judi Lynn Jun 2012 #101
Why do we even allow fox to continue? Mosaic Jun 2012 #109
Seriously? MB149 Jun 2012 #117
I think he's the only one on MSNBC who has.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #97
I give him a lot of credit for calling out the corruption problems with $$$ in politics harun Jun 2012 #115
I generally liked him Cosmocat Jun 2012 #116
I'm with you pmorlan1 Jun 2012 #118
Good for Martin. Much more exposure...Yay!..n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #9
Agreed! Martin Bashir is a favorite of mine! n/t marew Jun 2012 #11
I've not watched "Martin"...who is he and what does he do that you like? KoKo Jun 2012 #33
Martin Bashir. His show has been coming on at noon pacific, 3 PM Eastern on MSNBC. Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #47
Besides being progressive, The Man ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #57
So...I should watch him because he speaks the "best English you have heard." ????? KoKo Jun 2012 #67
Martin asks very good questions PatSeg Jun 2012 #72
Thanks all for the replies as to who Martin is--Sounds interesting. n/t KoKo Jun 2012 #103
Martin asks the tough questions - he is not afraid to say that republicans are screwing the economy jillan Jun 2012 #88
My only complaint about Martin Bashir's show PatSeg Jun 2012 #105
Then don't watch Martin ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #121
He's extremely well informed and articulate, elleng Jun 2012 #91
I will miss Martin Bashir's handoff to Dylan - it always cracks me up... jillan Jun 2012 #10
The handoff is hilarious PatSeg Jun 2012 #104
YAY! Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #13
He worked for the wall street banksters for years magic59 Jun 2012 #14
Yes...I have to agree with you there...because I knew his background and KoKo Jun 2012 #37
Out in the real world. sendero Jun 2012 #83
Yes, indeed. CanSocDem Jun 2012 #108
Another good journalist forced out by the mainstream media brentspeak Jun 2012 #15
yup--I'll never forget how he took apart people like Hensarling librechik Jun 2012 #113
Dylan, leaving gael Jun 2012 #16
I'm saddened to hear this. I liked Ilsa Jun 2012 #17
Go Martin!! flamingdem Jun 2012 #18
I remember him ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #53
I won't miss him flamingdem Jun 2012 #68
Should Martin get 2 hours? Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #86
Or maybe Chris Hayes flamingdem Jun 2012 #94
Praise Jesus. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #20
C Ya Dylan! irisblue Jun 2012 #21
Good. I couldn't stand him. I thought he was a complete ass. demgrrrll Jun 2012 #22
I liked him sometimes but felt I could never really trust him. calimary Jun 2012 #23
I did not have all that information my response was purely visceral. demgrrrll Jun 2012 #122
I for one Jake2413 Jun 2012 #24
Who will get Martin's slot? nt onehandle Jun 2012 #25
I was wondering the same thing. I'm not too sorry to hear Ratigan is leaving Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #27
I hope either Krystal Ball, Angry Black Lady, or Goldie taylor takes his place. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #26
I'm sure you do! n/t KoKo Jun 2012 #39
Yep, maybe Krystal Ball can take Ratigan's place, and Imani ABL & Goldie can take Tweety's 2nd spot. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #46
How long do you think it would take for "ABL" to be asked by MSNBC to Apologize KoKo Jun 2012 #58
I think she can handle herself. Twitter & television are 2 different things. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #65
ABL would be the most contentuous Media Host...ever to appear....unless "Black Agenda" was KoKo Jun 2012 #66
I'm pretty sure she would do just fine. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #71
Sheesh...why doesn't MSNBC hire back Geraldo Rivera...he did well for Clinton during MonicaGate? KoKo Jun 2012 #28
Now he's going to run for some elected office. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #29
I think he would do well in House or Senate. He has lot's of Wall St. Exprience and could Beat Them KoKo Jun 2012 #32
Not a fan... Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #31
not the best player on our team... but TahoeGrandpa Jun 2012 #34
welcome to DU! renate Jun 2012 #38
Thom Hartmann chatroom TahoeGrandpa Jun 2012 #61
Ohhhhhhhhh... love me some Karen Finney. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2012 #35
She's ready, and she'd be a great lead-in to Bashir. Amerigo Vespucci Jun 2012 #44
Please, no! earthside Jun 2012 #45
Hack? She has hacked into my heart, my friend! Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2012 #55
Correction: The "hack" is leaving. Karen, OTOH, would be a welcome addition by Democrats.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #124
Be still my heart!!!!!!! ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #50
She plays both sides of the fence a bit too often flamingdem Jun 2012 #114
No doubt Ed Schultz is doing a happy dance. JaneQPublic Jun 2012 #36
I'm very HAPPY to hear this. His show is my least favorite of the afternoon ones n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #40
Now maybe they will Spacer125 Jun 2012 #41
I hope not. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #59
Ahh...You were a Keith Olbermann Fan...were you? What do you think Keith did better KoKo Jun 2012 #69
Ain't ever gonna happen. Trust! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #125
I know that he might go to FAUX NEWS....since it's losing viewers and if he does KoKo Jun 2012 #42
Who leaving what? sofa king Jun 2012 #43
Well...if you are a "Sofa King" ....and asking "Which of course, is the why" KoKo Jun 2012 #70
Anyone here think that they would put S.E. Cupp in that time slot? Jamaal510 Jun 2012 #49
I don't think so ... bayareaboy Jun 2012 #52
But it's not a "news analysis show". mwb970 Jun 2012 #51
I've never liked Dylan Ratigan's show AJTheMan Jun 2012 #54
Let me ask you: How did you find "DU" and why did you sign up here and KoKo Jun 2012 #62
I found DU whenever I typed "Democrats" into google. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #64
And welcome to DU! PatSeg Jun 2012 #77
Thank you! It's so nice to be welcomed by friendly people! AJTheMan Jun 2012 #85
You're welcome PatSeg Jun 2012 #87
Yes, Ratigan has said he's a conservative. I change the channel too. FarLeftFist Jun 2012 #89
Nail on the head there AJ. Don't mind the Ratigan fan club. They don't like Democrats much. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #126
Welcome to DU, AJTheMan! gateley Jun 2012 #92
He will not be missed. Dylan is obsessed with complaining how bad things are. Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #56
Dawson...please tell us more about why you so disliked Dylan Ratigan.. KoKo Jun 2012 #63
I myself would rather hear the truth even when it's Raine Jun 2012 #76
He offers solutions............ PatSeg Jun 2012 #78
The first time I was turned off by Ratigan PatSeg Jun 2012 #74
His questions sounded more like monologues PADemD Jun 2012 #102
So true progdog Jun 2012 #112
Hope he stays visible, and stays loud demwing Jun 2012 #75
He wants to pump up the "third way" and that means Libertarians and Repuke Lights flamingdem Jun 2012 #133
Dylan 90-percent Jun 2012 #80
Good! southern_belle Jun 2012 #81
I'll be one of the few who likes him. Agree with a lot of the negative points made, gateley Jun 2012 #90
I appreciated his financial knowledge flamingdem Jun 2012 #96
Hmmm. Interesting. I hadn't thought of that but I could see him doing it. nt gateley Jun 2012 #129
Now I can keep MSNBC on all of the time. grantcart Jun 2012 #93
Here's a good sample of Bashir's style Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2012 #95
I never watched him. Paka Jun 2012 #98
Too much explicit facts for you to absorb? savisticate Jun 2012 #99
You Know What's Hard to Absorb? otohara Jun 2012 #107
+1 Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #127
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out... Hulk Jun 2012 #100
Style over substance pmorlan1 Jun 2012 #119
My suggestion Mosaic Jun 2012 #110
I'm a Democrat, and I love MSNBC, and it's only getting better. Hopefully DR can join Cenk up..... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #128
+1 flamingdem Jun 2012 #132
Tolerable next to Scarborough any day. nt Lost-in-FL Jun 2012 #111
Dylan Remember Jun 2012 #130
I found him tolerable, but ... Akoto Jun 2012 #131
I guess peole can't handle the truth Pessimistic Idealist Jun 2012 #134

coldbeer

(306 posts)
82. I was shocked at how bad he treated Ed Schultz!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:05 PM
Jun 2012

I quit watching him. STFU!!!

Chris Matthews has the same train ... so annoying. STFU!!!!

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
5. I tried to like his show
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:51 PM
Jun 2012

It took time to warm up to Rachel Maddow and Al Sharpton and now I really like their shows. I can't say the same for Ratigan. His schtick was always that both sides are equally bad, left and right. No matter what Republicans did, he would always frame the situation as 'both sides suck'.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
6. I won't miss him. His ego is larger than
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
Jun 2012

anyone on T.V. Glad Martin Bashir is going to replace him. He is afraid of nothing.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
7. In the dictionary, next to "pompous ass" they have his picture
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jun 2012

A windbag in love with the sound of his own voice and a proponent of the "both sides are equally guilty" theory of WTF is wrong with American government.

I won't miss him because I never deliberately watched him, but I did make the mistake of turning the TV on a few times when his silly ass show was on. I was pretty lame.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
8. I'm one of the few here who kind of liked him
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jun 2012

I really learned a lot from his show, especially when he would almost give a school-type lesson.
I think his opinions about bank reform were spot-on.

 

citysyde

(74 posts)
12. You're not alone! I did, too!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jun 2012

I found his search for the truth and the facts and the outline he painted as to how our government was being sold out to the highest bidder exactly correct. His views on the way a capitalist worldwide economic system leaves the little guys out, quite correct.

Admittedly, I turned off the TV machine some days when he came on. I just couldn't take all that truth later in the afternoon. But he's got a wonderfully precise view of what we are up against. Can't fault him for that!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
30. I thought his Wall Street experience and prouducer for top MSNBC Show gave him special Outlook
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:07 PM
Jun 2012

And, I will be sorry to see him go.

But, here's what NYT says he said to them:

Mr. Ratigan said he would keep in touch with viewers through his personal Web site, DylanRatigan.com, which includes a campaign-style e-mail list. “Basically my plan is to meet with tons of people, learn from tons of people, and then figure out a way to take the narrative I’ve been talking about, and show the most effective ways to resolve it.”

That might take the shape of a media property, he said, but no plans have been set up yet. Returning to the Broadway play analogy, he said, “I need to write the next script.”


http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/dylan-ratigan-leaving-msnbc/

earthside

(6,960 posts)
48. Dylan wasn't a cheerleader ...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jun 2012

... and that's why a lot of folks here don't like him.

I guess they just want a Democratic Party--Obama hack 24 hours a day on MSNBC.

I liked Ratigan because he did call Democrats out when they are wrong, i.e., the Geithner, Summers, bankers and corporatists wing of the Party.

And, yup, occasionally he had on a Repuglican like Coburn, and so what ... I hope Democrats don't become as pig-headed and fanatically ideological like the Teapublican types.

So, I'll miss Ratigan's show, but you've got to give him credit for wanting to do more to really upset the banksters and one percenters and elitists ... than just talking about it.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
84. I liked him
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:11 PM
Jun 2012

I always felt like I could trust him to give me the straight story, spin free. I will miss his show. Plus, his rants seemed honest. Not just the...my side good, their side evil...meme that's entertaining, but...lacking in substance. Sometimes you want the whole story, not just half of it. And, I learned a lot without all the conspiracy theories.

MSNBC seems to be dropping hosts like flies all of a sudden.

Judi Lynn

(160,076 posts)
101. If ONLY they'd drop Joe Scarborough. He's been kept artificially alive by MSNBC.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:56 AM
Jun 2012

He would be perfectly at home at Fox. MSNBC shouldn't stink up a potentially fine cable network by having him and his repellant group working there in the same spot where they could have intelligent, worthwhile people.

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
109. Why do we even allow fox to continue?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:20 AM
Jun 2012

They have no journalistic standards. They are pure propaganda for the wrong wing. Outlaw them, or this country is really lost.

MB149

(10 posts)
117. Seriously?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:10 PM
Jun 2012

The GOP sends their "spokespeople" out to call us communists, and you want to emulate them?
Without the First Amendment, we have nothing. Please remember, no matter what your crazy aunt told you, there are just as many of "them" as there are of us.

girl gone mad

(20,634 posts)
97. I think he's the only one on MSNBC who has..
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:58 AM
Jun 2012

the first clue about economics.

The rest are just hopelessly lost. Which is, I suppose, what the corporatists at GE prefer.

Cosmocat

(14,535 posts)
116. I generally liked him
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:47 PM
Jun 2012

I like a lot of his basic premises, but he was a DIEHARD "they are both bad" type.

Ds are no great shakes, but on their worst days they can not even BEGIN to do the damage the Rs do.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
118. I'm with you
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:11 PM
Jun 2012

I liked him a lot. I especially liked that he highlighted civil liberties issues on his show. He wasn't afraid to ask his guests tough questions that made them squirm. He also didn't allow his guests to answer his questions with non-answers. He asked follow up questions which is sorely missing on most of the cable shows. I'm not a cheerleader for the Democratic Party. When they do good I'll compliment them but expect journalists to hold their feet to the fire. I also expect people like us to do the same. You get no free pass from me just because you have D after your name.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
47. Martin Bashir. His show has been coming on at noon pacific, 3 PM Eastern on MSNBC.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:42 PM
Jun 2012

You can search for his videos on YouTube.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
67. So...I should watch him because he speaks the "best English you have heard." ?????
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:38 PM
Jun 2012
What does that mean? What is the content of his show that appeals to you. I don't know who he is...so I'm asking. Your answer leaves me clueless...because I have no idea what you are saying. "Speaks best English...you have heard?" Where do you live?

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
72. Martin asks very good questions
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:04 PM
Jun 2012

without sounding rude or aggressive. He comes across as very authentic, likable, humble, and smart. He is a pleasure to watch and the "best English" may be referring to his wonder British accent.

As unassuming as he appears, he does not let people get away with half-truths or flat out lies.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
88. Martin asks the tough questions - he is not afraid to say that republicans are screwing the economy
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:26 PM
Jun 2012

on purpose - will bring repubs on his show to try and prove him wrong, and calls them out on their bs....
as an example.


About his English - he has a British accent which makes him kinda fun to listen to.

Him and Rachel are the 2 I have on my dvr so I never miss either of their shows.

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
105. My only complaint about Martin Bashir's show
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jun 2012

was timing. It seems that his time slot was frequently interrupted for live speeches from the president. Now maybe we'll get more Bashir.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
121. Then don't watch Martin ...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jun 2012

I like to hear someone who has a good grasp of the language, who can express himself very well and asks good questions.

Would you prefer Huntz Hall?

And I didn't even take it personal.

elleng

(129,788 posts)
91. He's extremely well informed and articulate,
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:37 PM
Jun 2012

and keeps the show moving along smoothly. He doesn't take nonsense from anyone, and challenges those he thinks is mistaken, politely.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
10. I will miss Martin Bashir's handoff to Dylan - it always cracks me up...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jun 2012

Martin is so spot on, delivers a powerful punch at the end of his show and then hands it over to Dylan who just bumbles.


Other than that - buh-bye Dylan!

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
104. The handoff is hilarious
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 10:33 AM
Jun 2012

It always feels like there is some inside joke there that we're missing. Its all downhill after that though!

 

magic59

(429 posts)
14. He worked for the wall street banksters for years
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:15 PM
Jun 2012

so he knew all the tricks of the trade, all the cons the banksters used. He has street smarts and was a pain in their rear ends. I'm sure the banksters are happy he is gone. As for me, I will miss him, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
37. Yes...I have to agree with you there...because I knew his background and
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jun 2012

knew how upset he was over the Banksters throwing the rest of us under their wheels.

I watched the change in him....and it was turmoil. He thought Dem side would be better...but, UNDER THE BUS WITH DYLAN...

There's NO WAY he was going to APOLOGIZE like the rest of those on MSNBC have had to do...an he probably knew that he was going to say something that would "cross his basic principles" and so is bowing out early.

Yes...he made a lot of money...but, many DU'ers only trash those who RAIL AGAINST THE SYSTEM while taking the money and promote those who have values that collide with the FDR Type Dems who TAKE THE MONEY and MORE for FAVOR....and APPAUDE THEM.

Good for you Dylan... A person of PRINCIPLES..has a tough time these days. Finding a Party and a Platform.

He may end up like Geraldo......but, he DID TRY...and that doesn't work ...for anyone who isn't "total inner circle these days."

sendero

(28,552 posts)
83. Out in the real world.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jun 2012

..maybe 2-4% of Americans have any idea what is happening. Here at DU it's maybe 5%. People who have absolutely no clue what is going on get upset when someone tells them uncomfortable truths. Ratigan told uncomfortable truths, he is not going to be popular with many people because they just fucking don't get it.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
108. Yes, indeed.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jun 2012


"... he is not going to be popular with many people because they just fucking don't get it."

Reminds me of the 60's bumper sticker that said: All the world is watching the USA and all of the USA is watching television.

It's tough to spell some words when you've only heard them on TV...

.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
15. Another good journalist forced out by the mainstream media
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

DLC-types, banksters, and tea puppets hated him.

Most people who appreciated his sticking up for the average American victimized by Wall St. will be sorry to see him go, though.

librechik

(30,659 posts)
113. yup--I'll never forget how he took apart people like Hensarling
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jun 2012

like they were tinker toys.

He's just a business oriented Democrat. Not afraid to call bullshit when he saw it. Goodbye! (of course. among many on our own side saying good riddance.)

And they wonder why the media is further and further right.

gael

(35 posts)
16. Dylan, leaving
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

doesnt surprise, his program turned from fire to cotton candy, and one has to wonder is the msnbc has again turned from hard truths.

irisblue

(32,793 posts)
21. C Ya Dylan!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:34 PM
Jun 2012

His occasional nuggets of wisdom were not worth the pomposity. From my perspective, his guests were much better in expressing their ideas and philosophy.
The hand offs between Martin Basher and Dylan were often laugh out loud funny, he usually looked so goofy in contrast to Bashiers' coolness of delivery and manner.

calimary

(80,521 posts)
23. I liked him sometimes but felt I could never really trust him.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jun 2012

He came from CNBC and as such, he was completely steeped in 24/7 corporate/Wall Street culture. That's an awfully big bunch of Gordion Knots from which to disengage, and they sure buttered his bread for a long time (and who would his friends be, and who would he hang out with, and whose cocktail parties would he be invited to and who would he go out for drinks and dinner with?) I was never sure he was not still a wholly-owned subsidiary. Like that little camera-cupcake Erin whatever-her-name-is on CNN who came from CNBC, to replace Eliot Spitzer and only served to keep the ratings in the cable news basement. Her inquisitional and oppositional questioning of people in the Occupy movement betrayed who still owned/owns her.

Glad to hear Martin Bashir's gaining from it. Wish they'd give him a two-hour show! He's utterly BRILLIANT!

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
122. I did not have all that information my response was purely visceral.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jun 2012

Very interesting. I am a huge fan of Martin Bashir.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
27. I was wondering the same thing. I'm not too sorry to hear Ratigan is leaving
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

Sometimes I liked him...sometimes I turned him off. I love Martin Basher!

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
46. Yep, maybe Krystal Ball can take Ratigan's place, and Imani ABL & Goldie can take Tweety's 2nd spot.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jun 2012

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
58. How long do you think it would take for "ABL" to be asked by MSNBC to Apologize
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

to Viewers for something she said?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
66. ABL would be the most contentuous Media Host...ever to appear....unless "Black Agenda" was
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:32 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Mon Jun 11, 2012, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

opposite her... BLOOD BATH!

Edited: typo in subject line.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. Sheesh...why doesn't MSNBC hire back Geraldo Rivera...he did well for Clinton during MonicaGate?
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:05 PM
Jun 2012


MSNBC seems to have a history of throwing out their brightest and best...

Yet, their actions are mostly CHEERED ON by "Democratic" Undergrounders.

How can this be?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
32. I think he would do well in House or Senate. He has lot's of Wall St. Exprience and could Beat Them
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jun 2012

at THEIR GAME!

Good on HIM ...if he decides to do this.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
31. Not a fan...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:08 PM
Jun 2012

"...members of Ratigan’s current staff will work to create a new show for the earlier time slot."

WHY? Assuming it was in his contract and Ratigan gets a cut. Time for The Karen Finney Show.

TahoeGrandpa

(8 posts)
34. not the best player on our team... but
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

I think Ratigan made some good points in every show if you could stand the occasional popinjay persona. I hope he finds new ways to harrass the 1%ers.

renate

(13,776 posts)
38. welcome to DU!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:23 PM
Jun 2012

I never watched his show so I can't comment on that--I do admire him for giving up the big paycheck/steady job if "action" is really his next step--but I'm happy for Martin Bashir. I've only seen him a few times, when he was subbing for Lawrence, but boy did I like him!

Anyway, welcome!

TahoeGrandpa

(8 posts)
61. Thom Hartmann chatroom
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:11 PM
Jun 2012

Thanks for the welcome Renate. I'm tahoekevin from Thom's chat thing a while back.. I think I know you from there.

Amerigo Vespucci

(30,885 posts)
44. She's ready, and she'd be a great lead-in to Bashir.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:35 PM
Jun 2012

She "guest hosted" his show several times recently. I remember watching Rachel Maddow progress from K.O. guest sports to her own show. Karen has shown the same career trajectory. Time for top billing.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,200 posts)
124. Correction: The "hack" is leaving. Karen, OTOH, would be a welcome addition by Democrats....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:25 AM
Jun 2012

who use MSNBC as their news source. I can see why the self professed "uber-liberals" and "third party advocates" here at DU wouldn't care for her. She's a Democrat. And MSNBC has learned that "democrats" will tune in for folks like Karen, Al, Melissa, Rachel, et al. The numbers don't lie.

Hey! There's always Current TV, a few hundred clicks up the dial.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
50. Be still my heart!!!!!!! ...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jun 2012

I just love to see her as being a part of a show. Not only that she makes sense and herself well.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
36. No doubt Ed Schultz is doing a happy dance.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:20 PM
Jun 2012

He and Ratigan had some on-air tiffs after Ratigan bloviated overtime and then interrupted Ed after every third word,

AJTheMan

(288 posts)
59. I hope not.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

I wouldn't watch MSNBC while they had him on their slots. He's just so pompous and awful. He's like a progressive Bill O'Reilly. He's dumb and offers nothing intelligent. I only started watching MSNBC after they got rid of him.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
69. Ahh...You were a Keith Olbermann Fan...were you? What do you think Keith did better
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jun 2012

on his show and how did it differ from Dylan Ratigan's show? They weren't in competing time slots, if you are aware..... So, Dylan was competing with a different audience.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
42. I know that he might go to FAUX NEWS....since it's losing viewers and if he does
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:32 PM
Jun 2012

it might be good for us.

Changing MEDIA is what many of us here on DU have been about. And hopefully we will see "THE CHANGE" that so many of us have been hoping for.

CNN goes LEFT and drags FAUX with it as more and more of us and our kids, grandkids and selves are caught up in BAILING OUT THE BANKSTERS.

Frankly speaking....he'd do better there educating the RIGHT "Investors" than speaking to those who feel that the BAIL OUT WAS GOOD and that "Americans got the best deal they could have gotten" after REAGAN, BUSH I and II.

CHANGE IS COMING.....

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
70. Well...if you are a "Sofa King" ....and asking "Which of course, is the why"
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:42 PM
Jun 2012

It does give credibility to your post.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
52. I don't think so ...
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jun 2012

SE Cupp is it seems to me to be just in for working against a demo on the other side of the table. She doesn't have any sort of thing going on except trying to finish things with her BS RePUG theories.

I really think that she is light weight.

mwb970

(11,287 posts)
51. But it's not a "news analysis show".
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 07:59 PM
Jun 2012

Ratigan goes for the sidelights, the odd angles, the hidden trends. What he doesn't do is analyze the day's news, which actually I would kind of prefer.

AJTheMan

(288 posts)
54. I've never liked Dylan Ratigan's show
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jun 2012

I would change the channel when he came on. I'm not even sure if he's really a progressive. I've heard that he's conservative.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
62. Let me ask you: How did you find "DU" and why did you sign up here and
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jun 2012

what is it about Dylan Ratigan that you found offensive to your sensibilities that you needed to post about him in reply to this thread?

You say you would "change the channel when he came on"...but, I would like to know "WHY" you found him so offensive.

Since you are a new "DU Member" it would be interesting to know about this. Can you give more info?

AJTheMan

(288 posts)
64. I found DU whenever I typed "Democrats" into google.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:26 PM
Jun 2012

My reason for signing up can be found here. The reason that I didn't enjoy his show is because I felt like he would be more at home at Fox News rather than a progressive MSNBC.

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
77. And welcome to DU!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jun 2012

I don't think Ratigan has ever indicated he was a progressive. I'm not really sure what he is, but he is very self-absorbed and he speaks in exasperating run-on sentences.



PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
87. You're welcome
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 10:19 PM
Jun 2012

I just wanted to be sure you knew that most of us are friendly here. Your above answer was very sharp and I like your reference to your "Welcome" thread.

I've met some life-long friends here. I hope the same for you. When politics gets overwhelming, there's a lot of other topics to explore as well.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
92. Welcome to DU, AJTheMan!
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jun 2012

Thanks to the link to your 'intro' thread. I like you!

And more importantly, I think YOU'LL like it here. You'll need all the Democratic friends you can find if you live in a Red area.

Hopefully you've lurked for awhile so you know that sometimes things can get testy, but underneath it all, we're very supportive of one another AND the Democratic agenda, natch.

Glad you're here!


Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
56. He will not be missed. Dylan is obsessed with complaining how bad things are.
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:09 PM
Jun 2012

He offers few solutions if any to the current problems. He is a whiner.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
63. Dawson...please tell us more about why you so disliked Dylan Ratigan..
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jun 2012

You've been here since 2009...so you might have an interesting perspective that could give insight to those of us who will miss Ratigan's Wall Street Perspective and his rants against those who wanted to tear down our Unions.

Raine

(30,520 posts)
76. I myself would rather hear the truth even when it's
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:25 PM
Jun 2012

bad news, living in denial means waking up to a horrid reality. Plus he does offers solutions ... maybe you haven't actually listened to his show otherwise you would have heard them.

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
78. He offers solutions............
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:28 PM
Jun 2012

Just buy his book "Greedy Bastards"! He reminds viewers as often as possible.

PatSeg

(46,559 posts)
74. The first time I was turned off by Ratigan
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:16 PM
Jun 2012

was back in the early days of his show. On two occasions he used baby dolls and puppets as visual effects to explain finance. It was both pathetic and insulting to the viewer. It felt like the segment would never end.

Then he had his on screen temper tantrum, which I thought was scripted. He got a lot of attention, as he took time off to finish writing his book (convenient timing). When he returned, the show became an one hour infomercial for Dylan's book for weeks.

Dylan Ratigan made some good points about the financial system in this country, but his on-air style was grating. His questions sounded more like monologues and his guests only seemed to be props so he could expound on his great and profound thoughts.

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
102. His questions sounded more like monologues
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 06:56 AM
Jun 2012

That's why I disliked his show and took the time to do something around the house, like pull weeds or vacuum.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
75. Hope he stays visible, and stays loud
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

Seems like some people are only interested in cheerleaders, Pollyannas, and echo chambers.

flamingdem

(39,300 posts)
133. He wants to pump up the "third way" and that means Libertarians and Repuke Lights
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jun 2012

Just wait and see, this is what he was pushing previously

90-percent

(6,817 posts)
80. Dylan
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:36 PM
Jun 2012

I didn't want him much, but I generally liked his style. His coverage of Wall Street and Big Banks was probably some of the best of the recent era.

He seemed to really know the nuts and bolts of Wall Street and Big money and Finance. And he seemed to do a great job calling out ALL THE CORRUPTION.

He was sure as hell no Jim Kramer and I'll have to stay abreast of his new endeavors.

-90% Jimmy

gateley

(62,683 posts)
90. I'll be one of the few who likes him. Agree with a lot of the negative points made,
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 11:24 PM
Jun 2012

but I thought he knew his financial stuff. And he would speak his mind, which I always admire. Like Biden.

I wish him the best.

flamingdem

(39,300 posts)
96. I appreciated his financial knowledge
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:57 AM
Jun 2012

that's a loss. I was never sure what he was using his knowledge for and fret that he'll go about consolidating the various third party / libertarian types to gain a voice for what could split the vote in critical elections. Luckily, he's late for the fall..

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
93. Now I can keep MSNBC on all of the time.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 12:43 AM
Jun 2012

and i am pleasantly surprised to see how many agree with my deep dislike of this gasbag.

Paka

(2,760 posts)
98. I never watched him.
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:09 AM
Jun 2012

So I won't miss him. The few snips of him I saw here and there never impressed me much.

savisticate

(1 post)
99. Too much explicit facts for you to absorb?
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 01:22 AM
Jun 2012

There are more than "a few" positives. He can never be mistaken for conservative...real silly.
He knows the inside Wall St cons. He is more difficult..for you rejecting. Can talk too fast only negative.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
100. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 03:20 AM
Jun 2012

Never did care for his style or his message. Actually, I probably never really got too deep in "his message", as his style was such a turn off, I usually flicked the channel before he could have more than a minute of my time on this planet.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
119. Style over substance
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:24 PM
Jun 2012

It's very interesting to see the number of people who actually prefer style over substance.

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
110. My suggestion
Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jun 2012

Recruit Alyona Minkovski, she is amazing with the truth. She would really shake up the establishment though, and she'll end up at Current most likely. msnbc is really a low rate, minimally liberal channel. We Dems have to wake up to their corporate slant!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,200 posts)
128. I'm a Democrat, and I love MSNBC, and it's only getting better. Hopefully DR can join Cenk up.....
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 03:44 AM
Jun 2012

the dial.

 

Remember

(32 posts)
130. Dylan
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 12:48 PM
Jun 2012

Oh Dylan the one who told the truth. Your famous rant made me proud finally someone stopped bs ing and told it like it is. I will miss listening to you because I am very direct in stating the truth. Hope Your buddy moves over from Current TV. Best wishes and go after the Greedy Basta$ds.

Akoto

(4,261 posts)
131. I found him tolerable, but ...
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jun 2012

Often, he came off as self-absorbed. Let your guests talk for a while and finish their statements! This is to say nothing of his almost messianic perception of himself when it comes to creating revolutions.

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