Trump Says Abortion Ban Should Carry Punishment for Women

[Purveyor]

Source: Bloomberg


March 30, 2016 — 2:50 PM EDT


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Wednesday there would “have to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions if the procedure were outlawed in the U.S.

The comment, which is sure to rile abortion-rights supporters, came during a week where Trump is fighting to defend himself on women’s issues on multiple fronts ahead of a key primary in Wisconsin.

At a taping of an MSNBC town hall to be aired later, host Chris Matthews pressed Trump on his anti-abortion position, repeatedly asking him, “Should abortion be punished? This is not something you can dodge.”

“Look, people in certain parts of the Republican Party, conservative Republicans, would say, ‘Yes, it should,’” Trump answered.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-30/trump-says-abortion-ban-should-carry-punishment-for-women

[BlueStater]

1. The worst part about this bitch is that I don't even think he believes in half the shit he says.

Out-phonying Cruz is a massive task indeed but Donald is making an impressive effort.

[Avalon Sparks]

16. Everything he says is bullshit and he knows it....

10 to 1 he is jacking with them completely. He is messing with their heads. Gosh it has been fun to watch.

If he deliberately went in to stir the chit over there, all while getting limitless exposure and branding and attention ....

The part of me that hates Repugs would secretly be applauding him for exposing their underbelly.

I actually liked him well enough on the Apprentice, watched the first two seasons....
Seemed to be a cocky blowhard but with some empathy occasionally, I'd find myself thinking the blowhard thing was fake bravado to an extent.

Just last night on the townhall he said that education and health care were Americans biggest problems...just blurted out of him.....after claiming security as the top three. My point is if you listen carefully, he blurts a Dem view out here and there and quickly moves on.... Either he drops the act for a minute, or just seeing if he can get away with it.

I haven't heard the other pubs say boo about education for example.

Also, at the beginning of his campaign, he was spouting numerous Dem talking points on issues, including abortion. This was in September.... And I actually was amazed how they cheered at what he was saying... I remember thinking these fools aren't even listening to him. As the months went on and he was made to answer directly...he did a 180 on almost every issue.

My final take is that this is all 100% show, he's a master manipulator and salesman, and quite frankly it's got him far, and we all talk and talk and talk about him. I think it's mission accomplished for him. My gut tells me he's privately laughing his ass off at the Repubs.

He will never admit it if his main intent was to jack with the Repubs. But I do think about how funny it would be if at the end of it all he's on stage with Hillary if she wins, celebrating her inauguration. a big f u to the repub party....

Doubt that would happen but it has crossed my mind.
I have no concerns about him being President, because I don't think there's a chance in hell of it happening. I don't even think he'll get the nom. Of course I could be wrong.

[basselope]

34. I've never met him personally.. but I know people who have.

The stories are all 100% eerily similar.

They say he is ABSOLUTELY nothing like this in person and holds none of these views or if he did, he kept them completely hidden.

Then, of course, Reagan was a liberal democrat and the head of SAG at one point... so I am sure people who knew him way back when, didn't recognize the person he become.

[Avalon Sparks]

38. Thanks for sharing, that's very interesting...

It's been my take since early on in his campaign, I did waiver though for a couple days when I saw his rally's on TV, with him standing up there for a half hour saying "get her outta here", and calling for the losers to go. Watching it my blood ran cold, and I questioned my previous assessment. After thinking about it for a few days, it seemed it's part of the act, he's ramping up the craziness to get more votes from the types of people that get off on feeling so superior to others, plus how easy it was for him to just stand there acting like King Ass for half the time instead of speaking about, well....anything. Came around to thinking, it's just more show....

I have to add that although it gives me great pleasure to watch the Repubs blow up upon themselves, I am disgusted at the precedent this has set...who's next Kayne West for 2020?
And I'm beyond embarrassed at how other countries are perceiving this absolute farce and mockery of our political process.

I also believe we have talk radio to thank for how we got here.

[wordpix]

73. lol, Kanye for 2020, rofl

He will be in the next clown car for sure

[cannabis_flower]

44. Well..

generally you dance with the one that brought you. If this gets him elected, do you really think he won't continue to say and do these kinds of things?

[basselope]

56. I don't know.

Obama didn't. Bill Clinton didn't. Even bush didn't. In 2004 they basically ran on a constitutional amendment to end gay marriage and then did NOTHING about it, Reagan raised taxes.. what.. 17 times?

Sometimes you dance with the one who brought you and other times you just use them to get in the door and then do whatever you want.

[wordpix]

72. maybe the Don also has Alzheimer's

[llmart]

77. He is a supreme narcissist....

I firmly believe he has no interest in actually being President but is just enjoying all this attention (thanks to the ridiculous media in this country) he's getting. It's a dangerous combination.

There was a time when many of us thought a pro wrestler could never be elected governor but then it happened. Or a TV actor with a clearly foreign accent be elected governor of California, but that happened also. Do not underestimate the ignorance of the populace in this country or the addiction to entertainment.

[RobinA]

63. I Tend To Agree

Although I think he may have overplayed on this abortion punishment thing. Hard to tell, because it seems impossible for Trump to ever get slapped for going too far, but this may be the one. Too many people know too many people who have had abortions.

[PatrynXX]

43. Everyone knows he's very pro choice

this basically went right over my head . Yeah your Republican you gotta say it. But women still love him because he's pro choice

[AngryOldDem]

46. Of course he doesn't.

He's about the most cynical, manipulative bastard I've ever seen. Just wait -- when he's called out on these remarks in a few months, he'll deny ever saying them, or that he can't remember, or that wasn't what he meant. He'll have some kind of BS answer. And the media will just nod, pat him on the head, and carry on.

[wordpix]

71. since Don Juan has been tied to so many women,

I wonder how many had abortions? The guy is so full of shit I'm surprised he can even talk.

[riversedge]

2. Trump gets crazier as the days go by.

[msongs]

3. thanks Donald. keep talking and make sure its in front of the TV cameras and cell phones! nt

[RobinA]

64. Nooooo!

Donald, shut up about this stuff until you have the nomination locked! THEN start this talk. I don't want to deal with Cruz.

[geek tragedy]

4. please nominate this guy, Republicans nt

[Gomez163]

5. The Donald is still trying to charm the women

[vkkv]

6. Yeah sure, punish the pregnant victim in a rape crime - that is where this is heading.. eom

[duhneece]

14. I chose to run for office because the incumbant DID support HB 206 which would have jailed...

The incumbent supported a bill that said if a woman had been raped, got pregnant and wanted an abortion, she could be jailed for attempting to destroy the evidence. She also wants our national forest to be sold off to the oil and gas industries. If this is an important issue to you, I hope you'll support me as Nov gets closer.

[vkkv]

17. Who are you and why do we have to ask who you are if you are serious about running for

an elected office... makes no sense... and I can't vote in N.M. anyway.

[duhneece]

81. Thanks for asking.

My name is Denise Lang. I'm running for State Rep. Besides voting, there are other ways to support a candidate you believe in.

[vkkv]

82. "believe in".. Okay, one might begin public service in many ways, I would be interested in reading

your 'Letters To The Editor' that you have submitted that have been published as these would show voters your positions on the issues that we all face. Examples of your leadership in the community and the results gained is another way to show your committment to public service. It's a long road to create real change in a way that has staying power. Are you really up for that? Campaign donations for nothing is not going to happen, you understand that, right? Either way, best of luck, do your best.

[AxionExcel]

7. "And the guys who got them pregnant and then took off should get a free ice cream cone." - Trump (R)

[wordpix]

74. "...& if they're bankrupt, they should write their own bankruptcy laws & buy politicians to

get these laws enacted, like I did" ---Trump

[AtheistCrusader]

8. Not yet!

Damnit, if Hillary ends up the nominee, we need Trump to be theirs, so we have a hope of beating him in the general. He has a knack for saying this shit, and cutting his own throat, so if we're stuck with Hillary, we DO want them stuck with Trump.

This kind of shit could hand us the election despite our best efforts to nominate a centrist, bank-beholden DLC candidate.

[xocet]

9. It is surprising that he restrained himself from suggesting the death penalty or life in prison.

[MariaThinks]

10. he wants 0 support from women. he's going to get it.

[Journeyman]

11. He's trying to answer the punishment question this YouTube video so brilliantly exposed. . .

If you're unfamiliar with it, a film crew attended an anti-abortion rally some 8 years ago for the purpose of asking the demonstrators if, in the event abortion is again made illegal, what punishment would be appropriate for a woman who still chose to have one. The responses are eye opening, largely for illuminating that these people had never considered that aspect and were quite uncomfortable when confronted with it.

Well worth the viewing.

[jtuck004]

12. Let's get them stoned. n/t

[restorefreedom]

13. since abortion will always be legal, this is a non issue

and another typical shit stirring question by matthews.

and trump did not actually say women should be punished. he said that some conservatives would say so.

more establishment #nevertrump bullshit

[Shrike47]

19. Read the link. Yes, he did say they should be punished.

[restorefreedom]

24. i did. he said if and when it is illegal.

he is not suggesting that we start rounding up women NOW at clinics.

this is antitrump hype from a nervous establishment gop. roe is not going anywhere. the question he responded to will never truly have to be dealt with.

[StevieM]

25. I don't think it goes without saying that abortion will always be legal. It should be, of course,

but there is a major effort to restrict, and eventually eliminate, abortion rights.

If we win this election then we will secure the Supreme Court for 20 years. But if we lose then the Republicans could establish a right-wing majority on the court for generations to come.

A court filled with Scalias will almost certainly criminalize abortion.

[restorefreedom]

33. i know the scalia death puts things into disarray

but even some conservative analysts have conceded that abortion rights via roe are basically the law of the land and will not be overturned.

that does not guarantee against attempts to change particulars regarding late term and so forth, but the fundamental right via roe will not go anywhere imo, even with a different scotus

[joshcryer]

26. Are you defending Trump here?

"more establishment #nevertrump bullshit"

[restorefreedom]

30. are you serious? i am defending accuracy in reporting

trump drops enough turds on his own. the press does not need to embellish his words for a headline, and it looks like that is what they are doing.

not a surprise, since corp media works for the establishment and we know they want him out. that is the reality.

but even with people we don't like, perhaps especially with people we don't like, the reported info should be accurate. people are smart enough to digest and understand the truth.

[joshcryer]

37. Trump is establishment.

That's the greatest con of all time. That you think he's not is hilarious.

[restorefreedom]

50. at least he is not taking campaign money frpm special interests

in the eyes of many, that is antiestablishment enough for them. like him or hate him, he does not take money or orders from the donor class.

[joshcryer]

60. He will once he gets the nod.

Don't be foolish.

[restorefreedom]

61. you mean in a ge? nt

[joshcryer]

68. He already said he'd take donations if nominee / GE.

Are you kidding, he has gotten hundreds of millions of dollars of free air time for the nomination, no exaggeration. But the GE is different. Local ads, local ground workers, in every state. He'll take the cash.

[restorefreedom]

69. even in a ge, we need public funding

money corrupts. and yes, i remember him saying that in a ge he would take funding.

[joshcryer]

70. He's the only candidate PROFITING from running.

Every private jet flight, his top level suites (in his own hotels), all travel expenses (due to secret service).

Usually candidates profit after running, either speeches or book deals, but no, he's getting paid now. It's a free campaign as far as his books are concerned.

Most establishment insider candidate in the running, just read up on his lobbying efforts.

[restorefreedom]

75. if anyone can turn a profit, it would be trump. nt

[RobinA]

65. Is He Not

the donor class?

[restorefreedom]

67. he has tons of money no doubt

and because of that, he is not being controlled by special interests. personally i would rather see publicly funded elections.

and yes, he has admitted in the past giving money to politicians to grease wheels. so he has been on the other side of the problem. but he seems to want to reform the system even though as a mogul he benefitted from it and as a pol, he is not benefitting from it.

money corrupts politics. most people are seeing that clearly now.

[Avalon Sparks]

40. Agreed Restore...

I saw that too, appreciate you bringing it up. Love the turd comment.

[restorefreedom]

51. :) turds fit almost anywhere! nt

[LynneSin]

31. Really? We thought Assault Weapon ban would always be legal or Corporate Donation money bans

Don't assume ANYTHING in this country

[restorefreedom]

55. i honestly never trusted the assult weapon ban

but it seems that roe is pretty entrenched. anything is possible, but it has stood for 40 years.

[Ilsa]

42. It may be "legal" in terms of the law,

But Republicans are doing a damn good job of making it extremely difficult to get. The new laws on 24 hour waits, unnecessary ultrasounds, widening clinic hallways, meeting outpatient surgical suite standards, admitting privileges, etc have caused many clinics to close.

I guess getting an abortion in a clinic with a normal width hallway should put the woman away for years if Trump has his way.

[restorefreedom]

53. no doubt the whittling away at the state level will continue

through measures such as you mentioned. but unfortunately, even a guarantee of roe into perpetuity will not be able to change state behavior. that is a state by state fight. the good part of that is despite his bluster, trump is not really going to be able to do anything on this issue at the federal level.

[dbackjon]

76. I wouldn't be so confident that abortion will always be legal.

[restorefreedom]

78. its hard to imagine a forty year old legal precedent being overturned

even many republicans have accepted that.

[dbackjon]

79. It only takes 5

[restorefreedom]

80. 5 scalia or thomases. i dont see roberts doing it

and i doubt any president would get 3 or 4 more scalia/thomas types seated. alito i could see jumping on board. the senate will not allow that make up ever again imo.

[keithbvadu2]

15. Every miscarriage would have to be investigated for a possible crime.

Someone said that Alabama already does that.

How thoroughly, I wonder.

[ananda]

22. Thoroughness is probably based on income and race.

..

[StevieM]

23. Yep. +1 (eom)

[Ilsa]

48. A woman would have to pretend to be excited

by the unwanted pregnancy. The women who can't act well enough will be targeted by some people, even some medical personnel.

[seanjoycek476]

18. Absolutely disgusting

Trump is a real POS.

[retrowire]

20. oh geez nt

[olddad56]

21. I don't think Trump really wants to win, I think he just wants to push the envelope.

He thrives on being outrageous and controversial. I would have to say this, he has certainly pointed out the need for better education in public schools. Where do all of his supporters come from? They all seem to me to lack a formal education.

[LynneSin]

29. Trump is running for 'King of the Low-IQ citizens of the US'

Think about it - he will be the de-facto voice of those people who feel marginalized because they refuse to treat others not like them as equals.

Trump can then promote any product or idea and these dipshit idiots will go bonkers supporting them. Trump can sell his wines or his steaks or his crappily made-in-china clothing to these people and they are an almost guaranteed market. He would have more power than the Koch Brothers because he is a visible entity to these idiots not some secretive billionaire in the backroom pulling the puppet strings.

[LynneSin]

27. Good then we should also punish the man who got the woman pregnant

Since clearly the man also did absolutely nothing to help protect for an unwanted pregnancy then the man should also get equal punishment.

Getting pregnant takes TWO people so if the woman has an abortion and is punished then why shouldn't the man involved receive equal or even harsher punishment.

:eyesroll:

Clearly if men were capable of getting pregnant we'd have abortion clinics on every street corner like a fricking Starbucks.

[Ilsa]

49. Yep, an abortion booth in every

Buffalo Wings restaurant and pool hall.

[Chalco]

28. How about punishment for the men who get the women pregnant? Huh?

Sorry, I am roiling mad. I could say such vile stuff, but I wont, except what I just said.

[Paper Roses]

32. Damn this guy. He is sick and I'm tired of hearing from him.

There are too many people following this fanatic. He scares me. We do not want to go back to the dark ages. All men and women should reject him in the strongest terms.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

35. Okay folks. Isn't it obvious NOW that he's trying to throw the election?

[rurallib]

36. How about a scarlet letter 'A' burnt into their foreheads

that way they can be shamed for their misused sexuality forever. Isn't that the goal?



I think

[47of74]

54. Yeah pretty much

Some of these idiots up here in the upper midwest tremble with fear/rage at the mere thought of a woman being able to control her own sexuality and would love to be able to burn that said A into womens foreheads. Especially if they could do it themselves.

[AllyCat]

39. But the anti-Trump ads here in Wisco say he supports partial-birth abortion.

So which is it?

[ErikJ]

41. If abortion is murder as they say then she should be stoned to death

just like good ole Iran or Saudi Arabia.

[Omaha Steve]

45. We are pro choice

R is for exposure.

OS

[Zira]

47. And people think he is "smart."

Dumb as a brick.

[47of74]

52. Fuck you der Trumpenfucker.

Low life son of a bitch is too nice a term to describe him.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

57. I agree with him. If a practice is made illegal then...

it should carry a fine/punishment/etc. See, that's what these idiots don't ever think about. They just want to make abortion illegal and never stop to think exactly what that means. Just punish the doctors? What if no doctor is involved?

They've never quite gotten into the details or the implementation of such a law and how it would play out. They do that on MANY issues. Every time they start pushing something, play it through to it's logical conclusion and then talk about that. It drives the idiots insane.

[RobinA]

66. I Actually Do This

sometimes. I also try at times, in the nicest possible way with sincere curiosity, to ask people to elaborate on what Obama has done that is left wing, or what Hilary has suggested that is socialist. Wordless sputtering is usually the response. I usually drop it at that point. At best maybe they will think the next time they hear how Hilary is a socialist, at the very least they will stop saying it in front of me. I successfully got one friend to stop about WMD in Iraq and how they just had to be there even though we didn't find any, and I got the same friend to stop trashing Al Gore on right wing talking points.

[Sunlei]

58. That is what Republicans want. They seem to like to 'punish', jail and deport 'other' people.

[MisterP]

59. "But the fetus is going to be aborted ANYway, so why not let it go down with the ship?!"

[sofa king]

62. I was just looking at 538's article....

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-swing-the-election/

... Which demographically breaks down the election, and here is my conclusion:

Donald Trump and the other GOP clowns have already deeply offended about 70% of all voters, leaving only non-college educated white males as a reliable Republican demographic.

All women, plus all minorities, plus me means that no Republican is ever going to (fairly) win a Presidential election ever again. It really is over for the Republican Party, and they are already beginning their total conversion into a terrorist group and crime organization rather than a political front for those operations.

It's a bright future, and a very dark one, at the same time.