Bernie Sanders Just Filed Paperwork To Sue The DNC. Here’s Why.
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Source: Think Progress
Late in the day on Thursday, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) filed paperwork to continue an ongoing lawsuit against the Democratic National Committee. The reason surrounds an incident with the Hillary Clinton campaign that occurred more than three months ago.
The lawsuit argues that the DNC unfairly barred Sanders from accessing critical voter information specifically, a 50-state voter file containing information about how to reach potential voters. The DNC briefly suspended Sanders access to that file in December, after one of his staffers improperly accessed Clintons voter data.
At the time, Sanders campaign officials admitted that their staffer did improperly look at Clintons data. But they contended that it was also the DNCs fault, because a DNC software vendor allowed a glitch in the system which ultimately made Clintons data available. The glitch also made Sanders data available to the Clinton campaign though no one on Clintons staff looked at it.
More complications arose. DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz accused the Sanders team of exporting and downloading Clintons voter data to use at a later date. Sanders campaign officials denied this charge, and said they did not do anything with the information. We did not gain any material benefit, said Sanders former national data director Josh Uretsky, who was later fired over the incident.
Eventually, the DNC suspended Sanders access to the voter file. One day later, the DNC and Sanders came to a deal, and Sanders access to the voter file was restored.
Still, the Sanders campaign sued, arguing that the DNC overreacted by suspending their access, and had harmed their ability to campaign on an equal playing field with Clinton. Moreover, Sanders attorneys argued that the DNC broke its contract with the campaign, which stated that the DNC must give notice before suspending access to information. The campaign is seeking $75,000 in damages.
The DNC, in an inappropriate overreaction, has denied us access to our own data, Sanders campaign Weaver said at the time. In other words, the leadership of the Democratic National Committee is actively trying to undermine our campaign.
Read more: http://linkis.com/thinkprogress.org/po/xoNrb
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liberal N proud
(61,086 posts)And this makes that very clear!
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)He also won his case against the DLC yesterday
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)We can argue, but it's academic.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Before the reagan revolution. I know my history.
Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)That's it? That's all you've got?
monicaangela
(1,508 posts)This is what many don't understand. Democrats many of them are becoming republican lite. Bernie is running on the democratic ticket and this means the democratic party has acknowledged the fact that he will represent democrats. He is representing democrats as far as I am concerned. Not the DLC thank God, the real democrats. Funny how an Independent appears to follow what used to be the democratic platform better than supposed democratic politicians. No Wall Street donation, he's not backing pay day loan vultures...Bernie is a real Democrat. What are those other people?
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)liberal N proud
(61,086 posts)Doesn't want to run by party rules, and only shows up to get access to party resources.
He will run back to independence one he loses the nomination.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I don't think he'll run anywhere, but should he lose the nomination, he will stroll back the the independence from Republican Lite.... and hopefully so will all the other true Dems who are sick of Corporate, Third Way, crap.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)If you didn't understand that Bernie is more Democratic than the turd way bullshitters polluting the party.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Is it your contention that he didn't check the box on that form?
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)He only left the Democratic Party, when the Democratic Party left WE THE PEOPLE, and are now fighting for them, the corporations.
Billy Ray Joe Bob Clinton is another RepubliCON in Democrat's clothing. The programs that he passed did not favor anyone but the business community.
But there are too many people who fall for what they say, and not what they DO.
It's high time that we focused on what folks DO rather than what they say.
yardwork
(65,857 posts)It reminds me that Sanders hasn't been a Democrat all these years, and only became one to run for president. It doesn't make me feel good about him.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)All these guys talking about Bernie's "not being a Democrat" is so ridiculous. He voted with the Dems all those many years and he IS A DEMOCRAT NOW. Let's stop this silly crap.
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saturnsring
(1,832 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)Just think if the HC camp had been the recipient of the BS data and did the same thing? Folks here would be calling for her disqualification. Bernie camp is obviously out to win...by any means possible.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)If he in fact does win, and the DNC is proven corrupt, are you saying that is not something you would like to know?
CincyDem
(7,024 posts)Taking that route would likely give him much less exposure so lets assume that instead of getting 20-30-40% of the Dem primary vote he was getting 2-3-4% of the general vote. You think that would come from Trump/Cruz ? Or more likely Clinton.
Now - maybe she won't need it in November (and the continuing clown car we call the Republican primaries make that more likely with every passing headline). But what if it's close. What if HRC wins a couple of her big states by a few points...will we be looking back at this primary season and wish that Bernie were in the general (instead of messing around with OUR democratic primaries).
What makes me feel good about him (and to be clear if HRC is the nominee I'll have a blue yard sign and work to get her elected)...but what makes me feel good about Bernie is that he's having the fight in the family (i.e. primaries) vs. taking it to the streets (i.e. general).
And for those Bernie supporters who want to see him as a write in for the general. Com'on folks...get f'ing real. I'm sorry but you might as well take your ballot out into the street and light it on fire.
And for those Bernie supporters who want to stay home to send a message in the general. Com'on folks...get f'ing real. I'm sorry but only losers learn lessons from that kind of experience. So if HRC wins, nobody will care about your message.
And if HRC loses (cuz stay at home voters were on strike) and she'll learn a lesson, the Democratic party will learn a lesson, DWS will lose her job and the country will give Trump 2-3 seats on SCOTUS. They'll be there until I die and I'll be damned if I'm going to let the fact that I wish it were Bernie in the general get in the way of me making the right choice - that would be getting my ass out on election day and voting for whomever is the Democratic nominee.
I say this as a die hard Bernie supporter sitting in a Starbucks with my light blue Bernie shirt on in a state that he's already lost. For those of us in Ohio who voted for Bernie, we didn't get what we wanted under our primary night Christmas tree. Yeah - that happens. But to jump from supporting Bernie to enabling any Republican - that's just a bridge too f'ing far for me.
HRC "may" be the lesser of two evils in the general but she's the lesser evil not by an inch but by a country mile. In fact, HRC and Trump aren't even on the same planet.
OK - not what I was intending to post but it just sort of leaked out. Peace yardwork, not intended as a rant on you or your p.o.v. specifically...just my general frustration for the "Dem-lights" getting reved up with pre-emptive announcements that the won't vote for HRC no matter what. Please, get a clue. I love me some progressive but I'm not willing to take a trip through 4 years of anarchy with Trump/Cruz to get there.
Gene Debs
(582 posts)really shouldn't feel good about.
alarimer
(16,994 posts)It's Democrats like her that make cringe about claiming the label myself.
It's become all about winning here. Principles be damned.
I keep repeating that if Paul Wellstone or Russ Feingold or any number of good Democrats (as opposed to bad ones like Schultz and Chuck Shumer) espoused the kinds of policies Bernie Sanders does (and they DID, in fact), almost no one here would oppose them, not even Hillary backers. So many don't really seem to care about the facts and about what it really means to be a Democrat that it's just sad.
You'd THINK the Dems would've been protesting all these years that Bernie has been their ally. How DARE he!?
Duppers
(28,297 posts)Let's correct what is wrong with the Democratic leadership. Apparently, you think they're behaving fairly?!
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)Bernie says they are still in talks to settle and expects that to happen without going to court.
jalan48
(14,736 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)It is good to see indeed.
Chichiri
(4,667 posts)Literally the next paragraph!
The campaign, however, is downplaying the service as procedural. The filing itself says the motion was taken simply in order to preserve the status quo. And that is true if the Sanders campaign had not issued the summons, their lawsuit would have been thrown out. Federal law requires a service of process to be issued 90 days after a civil lawsuit is filed.
In other words, this was simply to keep the option of a civil suit open before the deadline expires. This is BS's way of maintaining some leverage over the DNC for how to maximize the concessions he'll receive for dropping out. And it's honestly not a bad move.
thesquanderer
(12,530 posts)FrostyAusty
(57 posts)Keep fighting the good fight Bernie! We deserve a fair and honest chance, keep exposing the rigged system, more and more people are beginning to wake up.
We will crush Hillary here in WA tomorrow, but i'm sure we'll just be told by HRC supporters we don't count since were a super white, all male Demo up here in Seattle ....
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And Welcome to DU. Have you considered joining the "Bernie Sanders" group yet?
FrostyAusty
(57 posts)I just joined the group!!
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Pathwalker
(6,603 posts)Are you seriously advocating that anyone who supports Hillary Clinton should NOT bother to vote in the November general election?
Hekate
(96,712 posts)Zira
(1,054 posts)Go Bernie!!!
Jarqui
(10,596 posts)they have nothing to worry about.
There's nothing wrong with Bernie carrying on the lawsuit. He's asserting his legal rights against an organization that should be treating him without bias but have not done so.
There's no problem for the DNC or Clinton unless they have misbehaved. If they took Sanders data like the Sanders campaign suspects last October, they have a big problem.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)This....
"There's no problem for the DNC or Clinton unless they have misbehaved. If they took Sanders data like the Sanders campaign suspects last October, they have a big problem."
Yep!
SunSeeker
(55,171 posts)http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/dec/22/bernie-s/Sanders-take-Clinton-voter-data/
Jarqui
(10,596 posts)Clintons and their Foundation so you have to take Politifact with a big grain of salt. I've covered that in prior posts so I'm not keep going through that every time this comes up. Folks can do that for themselves.
Secondly, the Sanders campaign alleged this when this whole thing went down. You have to keep up.
A link from the article at in the top post:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/18/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-dnc-suspension/
Weaver said the original problem with the database's security, which did not involve the current database access company NGP VAN, dated back to October.
"We were very concerned that large amounts of our own data was being downloaded and we contacted the DNC to remedy the situation," he said. "We talked to them and we were assured that this was going to be taken care of. But apparently they are not competent in terms of maintaining the security of their data between the campaigns."
I haven't got the time nor the inclination to waste time going through this again. The claim is a fact and if they do not get a fair audit and investigation of what happened last October, then the lawsuit is going to go ahead full bore and I don't blame them a bit.
This was a crystal clear example of the unequal treatment of the two campaigns by the DNC. The Sanders campaign reports a breach and compromising of their data last October, the DNC does nothing. This dust up in December happens where folks in the Sanders campaign saw some of Clintons data and there is a big outcry and it's taken to the media.
Hillary Clinton and her campaign owns the DNC. If they do not come clean with an audit for last October, etc, then Sanders should follow through on his lawsuit and nail them for everything he can get and pass it to the media - just like the DNC and Clinton did to the Sanders campaign.
Whether the Clinton campaign and DNC likes it or not, unlike the application of the DNC bylaws in this election, the law is one set of rules that both parties have to adhere to.
If the Clinton campaign and DNC can't play fair, they should be nailed for it.
Beacool
(30,355 posts)One of his staffers accessed Hillary's list of supporters and downloaded it. That's stealing.
Quite hypocritical to turn it around and sue the DNC.
Jarqui
(10,596 posts)To get Sanders to not pursue his lawsuit, the Clinton campaign and DNC agreed to an investigation of what happened last October - when Sanders claims their data was compromised.
If the Clinton campaign and the DNC do not follow through on that agreement, Sanders in within his rights to follow through in his lawsuit. From the Sanders campaign's perspective, it looks like last October, someone more than inadvertently stumbled into a data breach.
Sorry, the facts cut both ways on this one.
LisaM
(29,051 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)
it's my fault for dropping the wallet and she or he is not a thief? Okay.....
Beacool
(30,355 posts)
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)The DNC has been sabotaging the Democratic party for a long time now. Time to clean the house.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Indeed...
DhhD
(4,695 posts)Merryland
(1,134 posts)that the fired Sanders' campaign workers may have been moles from the Clinton campaign? I'm not trying to start a rumor, but I did read that speculation somewhere & wondered if anyone else had?
Democat
(11,617 posts)Try Rush Limbaugh.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Duval
(4,280 posts)I haven't seen anything more about it.
Orrex
(64,883 posts)asuhornets
(2,427 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Beacool
(30,355 posts)
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Derailment, Baiting and All That Jazz.
Feel Free to Help Bernie Supporters! Thanks!
forest444
(5,902 posts)This one's for you, bud.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Wassergate.
forest444
(5,902 posts)Definitely had a "wish I had thought of that" moment when I saw it: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251938536
thereismore
(13,326 posts)
Justice
(7,198 posts)That is all I needed to see to make up my own mind.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)He got the data pretty quickly, so don't make it sound like his being behind is the fault of the DNC. Go find his staff people who are not honorable.
SunSeeker
(55,171 posts)This is about the same lawsuit that has been sitting moribund since December, having been filed but never served. The Court told the BS campaign that if it did not serve the damn thing by Thursday, the Court would dismiss it (throw it out). So, the BS campaign was FORCED to move forward with their lawsuit or lose it. All the campaign did was finally serve it (officially deliver a copy of it) on the DNC.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/bernie-sanders-dnc-lawsuit-221216
This is a very misleading OP. At best, it amounts to opinion, but the headline really is a lie. The BS campaign did not "file" paperwork "to sue" the DNC. They ALREADY sued the DNC. They filed the lawsuit last December. What they did yesterday was serve the lawsuit on the DNC, as ordered by the Court, in order to avoid that lawsuit from being dismissed. This garbage belongs in GDP or the Bernie Group, if anywhere.
Beacool
(30,355 posts)Therefore, he has no loyalty to the party.
I find it highly hypocritical to sue the DNC as a result of illegal actions committed by one of his staffers. For all the bellyaching about Hillary "stealing" votes from Sanders, it was someone from Sanders' campaign who actually did steal information from his opponent.
The one who should have sued is Hillary. After all, it was her information that had been accessed.
I don't think that the DNC overreacted. If it had been one of Hillary's staffers who had accessed Sanders' campaign information, his supporters would still be bringing it up and demanding that the DNC freeze her campaign's access to the party's website.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)The hosts are napping.
stopbush
(24,668 posts)At the rate of $27 a month...
cstanleytech
(27,481 posts)Fla Dem
(26,359 posts)Both the Sanders campaign and the DNC insist talks are going smoothly. DNC press secretary Mark Paustenbach told Politco that productive discussions were underway for a settlement. Sanders communications director Michael Briggs said the campaign was continuing to cooperate with the DNC.
RandySF
(72,714 posts)Get caught doing something unethical and call it wrongdoing by someone else.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Rig the system to favor the establishment elites while punching down the underdog.
Authoritarian followers of establishment candidates will predictably fall in line with such behavior.
Politicub
(12,309 posts)Then sue who you stole it from.
Very presidential of him.