Bernie Sanders Wins Maine Democratic Caucuses

[Bubzer]

Last edited Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:01 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: ABC

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has been declared the winner of the Maine Democratic caucuses, according to the Associated Press.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-wins-maine-democratic-caucuses/story?id=37442580

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A good day for Bernie

*on edit* Adding info due to the lack provided by ABC

Sorry for lack of presentation, but here's the results:

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=maine&eob=m.050ks/D/2/short/m.050ks/

[GummyBearz]

1. Did all the "super" delegates go to Clinton again?

Thus ending in an undemocratic draw for the establishment?

[Chicago1980]

3. If that's who they want to cast their vote for.

They also have the option and right to change their minds.

[GummyBearz]

7. At least you stuck to the facts

And didn't challenge the fact that super delegates are an undemocratic process that have the ability to put the will of the people aside, and replace it with the will of Washington insiders, powers that be, etc. Some people try to challenge that truth

[Chicago1980]

14. I didn't make the rules.

Senator Obama was able to secure super delegates and the nomination after Senator Clinton was crowned the heir apparent back in 2007-08.

If Obama could pull it off perhaps Senator Sanders can do so too... And then again, maybe not.

We'll just have to wait and see.

[Bubzer]

21. Fortunately, the rules indicate super delegates don't count...until they vote.

[billhicks76]

32. Superdelagates Not The Only Ones Who Can Do What They Want

So can the voters. Average citizens feeling a need to correct the system just might with 3rd party candidacies or protests and occupations in the streets or party headquarters. It's happened before. If Hillary wins fair and square it won't be an issue. If the defense industry and banks try to ram her through then there will be a problem as far as I can see. People always put their blinders on studying a static situation that will eventually become dynamic. They use no forethought. Big mistake.

[AzDar]

36. Ayup.

[Cavallo]

44. I think we should refer to them as "The Lobbyists who are super delgates" and keep it clear who we

are talking about. And, I suspect the answer is yes, they went to the candidate bought and paid for by corporate interest - Hillary Clinton. I suspect many of those lobbyist are in her superpacs - if not all. Some are congress critters but I'd like to know exactly how many are lobbyists given delegate status Democrat Elections. The DNC's personal 15% of delegates over all is equal to the 15% of the black vote. So that shows how much power they have - a lot to decide an election. Which should say something. Of course this year as we know 85% of the black voters are voting pro lobbiests and plutocracy so they must be thrilled. Hillary has done so much for them. Now about those for profit prisons... I bet it gets WAAAAAY worse. Just saying since they were in her super pac and I suspect they are still in her and Bill's foundation. Bet Hillary is laughing all the way back from Flint.

Here is the list of Lobbyists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016

[Gore1FL]

9. They don't really go anywhere until the convention.

All they represent at this time is endorsement. If they were ever used to secure a nomination, the party would self-destruct on national television.

[jhart3333]

11. You mean like it's doing now?

[Gore1FL]

13. They would have to take away the nomination from the voter's choice at the convention.

That can't happen until the convention. At this point, super-delegate commitments equal nothing more than endorsements.

[jhart3333]

15. Tell that to Governor Dean.

[Bubzer]

22. Dont have to... notice the lack of a vote from any super delegate? That's sufficient.

[jhart3333]

25. Again, tell that to Governor Dean:

http://usuncut.com/politics/howard-dean-superdelegates-tweet/

Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think this was happening in 2008. I recall the superdelegates laying pretty low until it came time to face the music. This time some of them are saying it's Hillary all the way. New game, different outcome.

That is what is destroying the Democratic Party right now. I'm 63 and a lifelong Democrat and they have pretty much lost me at this point. The shenanigans I'm seeing won't get my vote or my loyalty.

[Bubzer]

26. I cannot correct you on that point. I think you're spot on.

I don't remember super delegates being used as a bludgeon last presidential election.

[jpb33]

34. Worse

It is worse than that. Yes they can change sides and don't vote until the convention, but the super delegates gives the press carte blanche to propel a false narrative. And that is Hillary Clinton is way ahead and the math says Sanders can't win.

So the whole super delegate issue is being used as a propaganda tool by the MSM and dem establishment. It being used this way is unfair and giving the public an unfair, faulty representation of the race.

[Chicago1980]

2. I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to post this.

[Bubzer]

5. Yeah...somone posting caucus results, after results have been made available, during a primary...

crazy... right?

[Don Draper]

6. K&R!

[jpak]

8. 64% to 36% - 79% reporting

n/t

[Earth_First]

10. Extraordinary!

H/T to the volunteers, voters and campaign staff and a solid message from Bernie in Maine.

Kudos!

[Mira]

12. I expected this, and am thrilled. n/t

[PassingFair]

16. The press is out and out lying to us.

They had been portraying this as a close race.

[dchill]

18. Yes, and they're pulling out all the stops in Michigan.

Hillary's new firewall!

[Bubzer]

23. Another movement of the goal-post. Maybe we should call her Goal-Post-Hillary?

[PassingFair]

24. I'm here in Michigan, biting my nails...

Visual and anecdotal evidence points to Bernie, but the party and the papers are saying she has a 17-25 point lead. Bernie is kicking her butt in this debate tonight!

[JudyM]

27. can you canvass after work tomorrow? :)

[PassingFair]

31. I'm going to see Bernie speak in Ann Arbor...

(I hope) Otherwise I'll be outside waving signs.

[Enthusiast]

38. Cool! Yay, Bernie!

[Bubzer]

28. I'm hoping all the Bernie supporters there are working hard to get the word out!

[Plucketeer]

17. A good day for Bernie

A GREAT DAY for the people. Not the Hillary kind of people (Corporations), but the walking, talking, cast a vote kinda people.

[Major Hogwash]

19. A great day for America.

[OnlinePoker]

20. Bernie wins 3 of 4 States this weekend. n/t

[Yallow]

29. I Followed The Link - No Count And They Count Super Delegates

And don't even tell us what the real count of pledged delegates is.

Assholes ABC.

Screwing with the information to help Hillary.

I am gonna give Benie $50 right now I am so pissed.

[Yallow]

30. Done = $50 Donation

To help make up for ABC's crap.

[Bubzer]

35. A "Last nerve" donation! Awesome! And thank you!

[INdemo]

33. TYT said he won Maine by 30% but it was never mentioned by the

Corporate media and passed by like it was totally unimportant.

[Enthusiast]

37. Kicked and recommended!

[Cavallo]

39. The outcome:

Sanders (won)
15 Delegates
64.3%
2,231


Clinton
7 Delegates
35.5%
1,232

[Tobin S.]

40. Only 3463 people voted? That's terrible!

No wonder this country is going to hell. People are no longer engaged in electing their leaders.

[FreedomRain]

41. incorrect

Maine Democratic Party chair Phil Bartlett tweeted late Sunday that more than 47,000 attended caucuses, an "unprecedented" number.

Although many news sources said the number was high, it took a bit to find this info
(here- with the premade link that was way off)

I suspect the 3463 is precincts

[Cavallo]

45. Thank you! Good info!

[EndElectoral]

42. K&R - Not sure this was mentioned in the main corporate media

Was bombarded with Nancy Reagan tributes