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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:16 PM Jun 2012

Tom Barrett on Wisconsin recall: I don’t feel ignored by White House

Source: Politico

Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said Tuesday he doesn’t feel President Barack Obama ignored him by not campaigning in Wisconsin ahead of Tuesday’s recall election.

“Not one bit, because this started as a citizen’s movement,” Barrett said on CNN’s “Starting Point.” “This is the largest grassroots movement that this state has ever seen. It started out as a grassroots movement and it will end as a grassroots movement, as it should.”




Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77059.html#ixzz1ww6iu2Vg

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Tom Barrett on Wisconsin recall: I don’t feel ignored by White House (Original Post) kpete Jun 2012 OP
Sooo many on DU will be disappointed. Thanks Mayor Barrett..n/t monmouth Jun 2012 #1
I think Obama didn't want to energize the wingnuts by an appearance. Thanks, Tom, for reminding us freshwest Jun 2012 #2
Sound observation aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #17
I'm afraid so. The wing nuts who voted Walker in would have called outside interference. freshwest Jun 2012 #19
Exactly, that why he had OFA doing work there. Historic NY Jun 2012 #20
Yeah, he's good at the quiet way of doing things. The GOP way is tough guy and swaggering. freshwest Jun 2012 #21
Still disappointed that President Obama is ignoring voters of WI. n/t Dawgs Jun 2012 #4
He is NOT! We are working our asses of here, and thanks to OFA, doing an outstanding job! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #7
on behalf of many Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #8
You're welcome. Maryland and other solid Blue states will be working hard in the Red states Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #9
Ditto to that! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #10
I second that, and we appreciate the support we had from WI last year. freshwest Jun 2012 #18
He's a good sport slackmaster Jun 2012 #3
Nonsense! Barrett's election became a major national issue when JDPriestly Jun 2012 #5
Yeah. Powder that dry is a fire hazard. n/t Orsino Jun 2012 #6
It's rope a dope/chess/waiting for them to fall on their swords. Dr Fate Jun 2012 #16
It's an aggressive strategy. Orsino Jun 2012 #23
Hell, the powder is probably inert now. progressoid Jun 2012 #22
You know what's lame? Your persistent attempts to tie this recall to the White House. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #11
It's just a local matter. I cant understand why DUers & DEMS across the nation are so interested. Dr Fate Jun 2012 #14
I think if Obama had become any more involved in this recall election Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #12
Wrong. Obama and centrists are so big Union supporters. Dr Fate Jun 2012 #15
K&R flamingdem Jun 2012 #13

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. I think Obama didn't want to energize the wingnuts by an appearance. Thanks, Tom, for reminding us
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jun 2012

It is all grassroots from state to state. That is how it is, really, so when things don't go as they should on a local level the finger of blame is local, too.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
17. Sound observation
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:12 PM
Jun 2012

It's possible that Obama's appearance would energize Republicans and bring them out more than it would help Barrett.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. I'm afraid so. The wing nuts who voted Walker in would have called outside interference.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jun 2012

The appearance of Clinton was less polarizing since he's not POTUS; also, he didn't do the deed with Obamacare during his administration, either.

The wing nuts will run on what they've been putting out since 2009. The CT's would have a field day, though none of their predictions have come to pass. It's a strong alternate reality they exist in, and it's best not to remind them of the 'anti-Christ Obama.'



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. Yeah, he's good at the quiet way of doing things. The GOP way is tough guy and swaggering.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jun 2012

Which isn't what I want in a leader.

The tough guy talk is a cheap thrill that only satisfies for the moment, a form of instant gratification for the angry ears of listeners, without lasting results.

Sometimes, fighting is about fighting, and nothing else. Peace makers of all kinds get dissed by all sides. Yet they are what's needed.

One does not need to negotiate with one's friends over the things that matter most, but one's adversaries. After a while, they can all agree on something.

JMHO.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
9. You're welcome. Maryland and other solid Blue states will be working hard in the Red states
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:28 PM
Jun 2012

Hitting the phones and where possible, the streets. Virginia will be difficult for Maryland volunteers this time around but we plan to go in hard, from door to door, across the state.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. I second that, and we appreciate the support we had from WI last year.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:09 PM
Jun 2012

Even in the middle of all that way being done wrong in WI, some of you found the time to come to our capitol. We were thrilled with your support for our public workers fighting against the ALEC machine here. It's a battle across the country. Thanks for showing us the face of courage opposing this bloc.






JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Nonsense! Barrett's election became a major national issue when
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jun 2012

the signatures on the Walker recall petitions reached the required number.

I would expect Obama to appear and announce support early on if a Democrat running for governor of California was running a close campaign.

This election is even more important than other gubernatorial elections because the movement that led to it received high-profile coverage in the press.

Lame excuse. Lame. Lame. Lame.

Obama is simply not a big union supporter. That's the sad truth of it.

He was 19 when Reagan was elected. He does not recall the great era of the unions -- the ' 40s, '50s and '60s when labor was in demand and laborers got a pretty fair deal. He is simply too young to know what a strong labor union can do for a country.

Dr Fate

(32,189 posts)
16. It's rope a dope/chess/waiting for them to fall on their swords.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jun 2012

You have to make him do it- it's yes *WE* can, not yes he can.

Besides, we dont have the votes until we have 89 senators- errr, wait-wrong thread.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
23. It's an aggressive strategy.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jun 2012

Repeatedly smashing our opponents' fists with our faces until they submit.

progressoid

(49,988 posts)
22. Hell, the powder is probably inert now.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 07:54 AM
Jun 2012

No one from "our" party even knows where it's stored anymore.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
11. You know what's lame? Your persistent attempts to tie this recall to the White House.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:26 PM
Jun 2012

And can you at least acknowledge that the president did show up. He showed up two years ago, alongside Barrett, and the voters of WI said "screw you" to both of them. What is it about "local matter" that you're missing here? This race is between Barrett & Walker, not Obama & Walker, which is exactly how the GOP wanted to frame it.

President Obama can't be held accountable for stupid. He warned them in '08, he told 'em not to give the keys back, but they felt they knew better. They got what they voted for. That was Scott Walker. And if they reelect the asshole, they'll embolden him that much more, and will surely get what they deserve. The fact that Walker pulled a fast one on them, can't be blamed on the president. He warned them.

Dr Fate

(32,189 posts)
14. It's just a local matter. I cant understand why DUers & DEMS across the nation are so interested.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jun 2012

Or why they would want their party leaders to be just as interested or active.

After all, this is just a local matter- no connex to ANY national issues what-so-ever.

In fact, since you are from NC and I'm in CA, we have no business even talking about it. Why would we even be interested in talking about this local matter?

But just for the sake of argument:

Obama never promised to tie himself to any any pro-union stuff (see link). Yet Liberals keep fibbing and saying he should be tied to it.

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/02/flashback-from-candidate-obama-ill-walk-the-picket-line-with-you/

The problem here is the liberals keep trying to make the centrists stick up for the lazy unions/voters who refused to listen to Obama in the 1st place.

If Obama starts supporting unions too much, then DEMS will be expected to do even more liberal stuff, which means we have to abandon centrism (Which works) and then we lose.

He warned them.

With ya.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
12. I think if Obama had become any more involved in this recall election
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jun 2012

it would have motivated more irrational people to get
out and vote for Walker.

No matter what the polls say, I believe a lot of people
center and center right are sick to death of the gov,
and all the bad state publicity he's brought. (I'm
not a WI resident, so am just gleaning from afar, and
making my best hopeful guesses.)

I'm eager to see breakdown of votes and turn out this eve.



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