Clinton Edges Sanders for Nevada Win, NBC News Projects

[George II]

Source: NBC

Hillary Clinton will win Nevada's Democratic caucuses, NBC News projects, scoring a much-needed boost in the nomination race and depriving rival Bernie Sanders of a victory in a racially diverse state.

The loss is a blow for Sanders, who hoped to use the state's contest to prove himself as a viable candidate in a state with an electorate made up of more minority voters and fewer self-described liberals than the race's earlier contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Days in advance of the notoriously unpredictable contest Saturday afternoon, the former secretary of state's team had tried to downplay the significance of the Nevada results amid concerns that Sanders would pull off a win. But Clinton ultimately gathered a coalition of minority voters, self-identified Democrats and union workers to fuel her victory.

Unlike in the race's earlier primary elections, campaigns and the press were flying relatively blind going into the day's caucuses, with little reliable polling available for the state's quirky weekend mid-day caucuses.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/clinton-edges-sanders-nevada-win-nbc-news-projects-n522536

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[ericson00]

1. Good job Nevada helping to extinguish the Bern!

SC will help put it out for good.

[Hissyspit]

5. You say that like it's a good thing.

Big fan of low expectations, hunh?

[Ken Burch]

28. Only conservatives would benefit from the Bern being extinguished

Your candidate wouldn't stand for anything anymore.

[roguevalley]

58. they're crazy if they think this is over but

In the spirit of the first post here I will say I am now looking forward to her indictment with renewed gusto.

[Marty McGraw]

69. These Small Pop. States

Are nothing in comparison to the Heavy hitters down the Road....


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1177749

[roguevalley]

76. I agree. I see California and New York for Bernie. :D

[trillion]

62. Can you tell me what issues you think Hillary would be a good president on?

Name 3 please.

[UpInArms]

68. am blocking you

[Kingofalldems]

2. She stole it!! And she was mean!!

Whitewater!

[George II]

3. Love it, thanks! And what about all those emails?

GOLDWATER GIRL!

[Kingofalldems]

4. I forgot---BENGHAZI!!

Fox news says she is bad!

[BlueMTexpat]

53. And

"partial birth abortion" which was a deal breaker for a voter in OK I spoke with this past week.

[trueblue2007]

6. oh she was not mean. get a grip.

[Kingofalldems]

43. Ahh, it was sarcasm.

[2pooped2pop]

30. She sold political favors for donations to her foundation

Oh wait...that's real. Wonder what she will sell if she is POTUS?

[SunSeeker]

7. Looks like word finally got out that Sanders voted NO on Kennedy's 2007 immigration reform bill. nt

[Ken Burch]

29. The guest worker thing made the bill right wing.

And if guest workers have never been protected under U.S. labor law, they never will be.

Bernie's votes was anti-exploitation.

(He carried latinos 54%-43%, btw).

[SunSeeker]

34. At the time, Sanders said he was voting no because immigrants were taking American jobs.

He even went on Lou Dobbs and repeated the ridiculous claim that immigrants are taking good jobs like "lifeguard jobs."

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/12/10981234/bernie-sanders-lou-dobbs


I assume you are relying on that jacked up NBC exit poll for those Latino numbers. That same poll found that Hillary carried nonwhite voters 56% to 42%.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/primaries/NV?hootPostID=93fcba49e9326c663d378b5df0b9a011

[Ken Burch]

35. even 42% among POC is a massive shift.

It proves POC(the term "nonwhite voters" is racist, btw...implying that the only thing that defines POC is a lack of white skin).

[SunSeeker]

38. I did not pick the terms that poll uses. You're the one who brought that poll up. nt

[Ken Burch]

40. You quoted them, though.

In any case, 42% proves Bernie is demonstrating diverse appeal.

[SunSeeker]

63. And you quoted them as well.

We'll see how much "diverse appeal" Bernie demonstrates in South Carolina.

[LannyDeVaney]

8. Honestly, looking ahead, this was the Sanders campaign last chance to turn it around ...

Losing Iowa and Nevada, and with what's to come - the final race won't be nearly as close as the media would have you believe.

However, with a few days left in February, I expect folks like Andrea Mitchell to continue with their "momentum" schtick.

[George II]

11. Jim Clyburn was just on MSNBC. Not one to get agog over stuff like this, but he just said...

....that toward the end of March "we'll be looking at how we can united the Party".

THAT tells me a lot!

[LibDemAlways]

15. There will be no uniting the party. If Hillary prevails,

the young people who are supporting Bernie in droves will not be lining up behind a candidate owned by Wall Street who promises not much more than that they might be able to refinance their student loans and they'll probably never be able to afford health insurance. Bernie voters in general don't much like her policies, and she's definitely not going to generate a whole lot of enthusiasm. I live in California and can vote for Dems down the ticket without worrying about the state's electoral votes. I guarantee voter turnout on the Dem side will be low with Clinton and some other boring moderate as her VP choice though. That coupled with the intensity with which Republicans hate her and will be looking forward to voting against her no matter which turd they nominate will spell disaster for us in November.

[George II]

18. That simply confirms what many of us already thought about "Democratic" Sanders supporters.

[LannyDeVaney]

20. Yeah, "us" ...

[houston16revival]

21. You'd prefer a Republican were elected?

Sometimes there are not perfect choices in life. Or only seemingly bad
choices we do not like. But one must choose the least of all evils, lest
the devil wins.

[mdbl]

48. Oh great, i can chose the devil or his cousin

Thanks!

[houston16revival]

50. You have a mind

as rigid as any Republican. Shades of gray are very important in life
because there are very few choices which are only black and white.

[mdbl]

51. This will probably be the last chance i see in my lifetime

to vote for anyone closer to FDR. It makes me extremely sad to see that choice being compromised. Any of my union brothers or sisters who think the Clintons were good for unions is sadly mistaken.

[LibDemAlways]

65. I agree with you. In my post above (#15) I

pointed out that young people supporting Bernie have little reason to get behind Hillary and that she'd have a tough time generating much enthusiasm among Bernie supporters in general. That was intrepreted as a threat by at least one Hillary voter here. No threat at all. Simply an observation based on how this primary season has shaped up. Bernie offers hope that if we band together change is possible. Hillary offers same old same old Republican lite which throws a few stale crumbs our way. Meh is right.

[leftynyc]

25. That'll just confirm

everything I've thought about those young people. They're entitled, petulant children who can't think past their own noses. They don't understand what an earthquake the death of Scalia is and how important it is to make sure a Democrat replaces him. To hell with them.

[mpcamb]

71. Wring off the youth vote??

Uh, ok, Hillary guy, but I think that's a bad call.

[leftynyc]

75. Are you telling me

ALL young people are completely ignorant of how our government works and don't realize how important this election has become? They want to put healthcare, immigration, choice, privacy, civil rights, voting rights in the hands of a republican president? And you support these people and their childish petulance?

[mpcamb]

77. I read your opening sentence:

" That'll just confirm everything I've thought about those young people. They're entitled, petulant children who can't think past their own noses."
If that's taken out of context, ok, but sounds to me like that's writing off the youth vote.
Likewise, saw your 'H' thing. Hillary isn't drawing well from that demographic. If I misread it, well, still looks ambiguous to me.

"...ALL young people are completely ignorant of how our government works and don't realize how important this election has become? "
Nope, quite the contrary. They'll decide the election and it'll soon be their country, not ours.

[leftynyc]

81. No, that's writing

Off those voters who will skip this incredibly important election by only voting down ticket or stay home completely just because they dont get the candidate they want. I hardly ever get my candidate, I have never missed adding my voice to who nominates federal judges. It's the only thing that can't be undone. Scalias death has made this mountains more important. That the young will get off their asses and vote with any consistency still has to be proven to me. They were VERY absent in the last two off year elections.

[FloridaBlues]

54. Yes there will unity

Yes there will be unity don't kid yourselves
It happened in 2008 and no one thought it would.

[hamsterjill]

55. Oh stop with the threats!

If you don't get your way, you're going to stay home and sulk. We get it.

This type of an attitude will only help the Republicans, and if you're not here to get a Democrat into the White House, then I have no interest in reading your whining.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

44. Hillary (and her supporters) cannot get complacent

Yes - it looks cautiously good for her on Super Tuesday. Today is a good start in the right direction. However, Sanders still has several primaries that look good for him - Mass, Vermont (of course), and I'd expect him to do well in the Pacific Northwest.

[trillion]

64. You must love fracking and monsanto

have you ever stuck Hillarys name into google with the word fracking or monsanto after it?

That would be called vetting and voter integrity.

After that you could put her name after every progressive issue you support. Bet you wouldn't support her within an hour.
Let's try. If you go do that and come back with links, in an hour I'll put Hillarys mug on my tag for the weekend, if you still support her. Come on, integrity. Go see what you are supporting. Start with fracking. Then try monsanto, fossil fuels, climate change, for profit prison, insurance industry, and keep just googling for an hour and read what you find to get an idea of who your gal is.

You vet like this
1. bring up google
2. type in Hillary Clinton Fracking

It's easy to vet.

[Tsar 1]

9. CNN Just Called It for Hillary

Hometown Girl makes good!

[Chasstev365]

10. Republicans Sigh with Relief!

Because Bernie's Populists message of bringing the Democratic Party back to it's FDR roots scares the FUCK OUT OF THEM! Of course I would pick Hillary over a Republican in November, but face it: Hillary is the easier opponent.

[secondwind]

12. I agree..and as of right now, she is ahead by 300 votes in NV.. hardly a mandate

[iandhr]

16. County convention delegates

[secondwind]

23. I agree!

[Old Vet]

13. CNN calls it a Impressive 4pt win????????????

talk about low expectations.

[George II]

19. The only people who had "expectations" were Sanders supporters, and their expectations were dashed.

[rpannier]

45. Oh please

A win is a win I grant you that
But please.
The Clinton supporters sold this as a state where Sanders would do poorly because it had a large minority population
The meme was Sanders will not do well in states will large numbers of Hispanics and African Americans
I've seen that on the news, at various websites - including this one

Don't go out and re-write history

For months Nevada was sold as a state where Clinton would win big

It was only in the last week or so that it changed to 'It maybe close'

Celebrate the victory, but at least be honest about it

[question everything]

14. With 68.2% precinct reporting: Clinton 52.2, Sanders 47.7

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/02/nevada-south-carolina-results/468114/

Way to go Madam Secretary

[ananda]

17. I was hoping Sanders would pull this one out.

Still, it's not a bad result considering what the odds were
and the way the Clinton machine works.

However, I don't think it will help him build momentum
for SC. That's a shame.

[Cobalt Violet]

22. Oh yuck!

I can't take any more TriFuckingangulation.

[secondwind]

24. Can't Republicans vote in this primary?

[George II]

26. Yes, and they were urged by THEIR party to vote for Sanders. It's been all over the news and....

...the internets that this is what happened.

[LS_Editor]

27. And the fanclub of the corporate Democrats rejoice.

[George II]

33. Aw, we're insulted.

[LS_Editor]

70. Good.

How many more deals with the Republicans do the corporate Democrats have to make? How much more suffering for the most vulnerable members of our society? How long will it take until collaborating with the right won't be tasteful anymore?

[CTyankee]

32. I am a Bernie supporter, my husbad supports HRC. Let's see how it goes, going forward...

[ananda]

36. However it goes ...

... I will vote for whoever is running against any Republican!

[CTyankee]

37. Yes! We can never allow another repuke to choose another SCOTUS member! This is critical!

[awoke_in_2003]

67. +1000. nt

[calguy]

39. Berniacs feeling the "BURN"

Us older folks have been saying the way it's going to go for quite some time now. We're not any smarter, just been around longer and have seen more elections.
In my younger years I was a hard fighter for the McGovern campaign. Reality hit between eyes when Noxin won 49 states. While I've always loved Bernie the Senator, I just can't see the viability of Bernie the presidential candidate.

[LibDemAlways]

41. And you can see the viability of Hillary Clinton?

One thing Hillary will do as the nominee is fire up the Republican base who'll come out like never before to vote against her. There isn't a politician more hated by Republicans than Hillary.

And I'm in your age bracket and have seen it all, too. Bernie's straight talk, no bullshit populist message has the potential crossover appeal Hillary's tepid "no we can't" talk lacks. Good luck winning a general election when you've turned off half the voters in your own party during primary season and the opposition despises you.

[Ken Burch]

59. No one to McGovern's right would have done better.

Nixon won re-election on the China trip, not because people disagreed with McGovern's platform.

And if one fairly trivial Nixon dirty trick in NH was enough to destroy Ed Muskie, Muskie would have been roadkill in the fall as the nominee(I say that as someone who, at age eleven, originally preferred Muskie, btw).

[The Second Stone]

42. Congrats to Team Hillary

and the caucusoidal complex. I think we've all been embiggened by this exercise.

[DCBob]

46. Big win for the future Madam President!

[PatrynXX]

47. in order for this to be a blow to Sanders it would have to be a big win. if it isn't it's a meh.

next clearly she seems to be a total devider . nevermind Queen Hillary is being given billions from the DNC that has nothing to do with the party anymore . Meh. not a good day for Hillary it looks like. Media spin alert

[George II]

49. He's now tied in pledged delegates (18-14 today 50-50 overall) and most of his competitive states...

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...have already voted.

He'll lose SC big, and he may win three of 11 states on Super Tuesday. By the close of the polls on March 1 he'll be more than 100 delegates behind. From that point, there is no "path to victory".

[ananda]

66. Sanders needs to campaign BIG for super Tuesday!

I don't know if he'll be able to do that, but I keep hoping.

The South is a huge hurdle for Sanders. Black voters love
the Clintons, and I understand why. The economy was
good for them when Bill Clinton was president.

But as things are NOW, the Clintons have moved so far
towards big money and corporate interests, that Sanders
would actually be MUCH better for Black people!

Go Sanders!

[LibDemAlways]

61. There is nothing about Hillary that Bernie supporters could

get excited about in the GE. Her supporters live in a fantasy world if they think that after all the dirt she and her minions have thrown at Bernie, Bernie's supporters are going to offer their enthusiastic support and financial contributions. There will instead be plenty of people going to the polls holding their noses -- voting yet again for the least objectionable candidate rather than the candidate who has their back. There will also be millions who are already licking their chops in anticipation of voting against her. No politician is more hated by Republicans than Hillary Clinton.

[FloridaBlues]

52. A win is a win. We will take 4-5 point spread

On to victory in March !

[William769]

56. Kick & very highly recommended!

[giftedgirl77]

57. Hahahaha, I was wondering why it was so peaceful tonight.

[left-of-center2012]

60. Wall Street celebrates !!!!

They're heavily invested in Hillary.

[Gore1FL]

72. That's going to leave a mark.

That's about the same pyrrhic win for her that happened in 2008.

[George II]

73. Bernard Sanders is no Barack Obama.

[Gore1FL]

74. Exactly, Obama wasn't this out-of-nowhere. n/t

[riversedge]

78. And a Big REC...

[GreydeeThos]

79. Democratic voters prefer Hillary over Bernie in two out of three states

As for delegates, Bernie has 67 while Hillary only has 483.

[Sky Masterson]

80. The Nation told us that it didn't want another Bush. If Hillary wins the Nod we will find

that the Nation doesn't want another Clinton Either.
Don't get me wrong, I'll vote for her if she is the Nominee, But she will lose.
Hillary doesn't move or inspire anyone who doesn't already like her.
Flame away folks