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Omaha Steve

(99,594 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:23 AM Feb 2016

Sanders campaign: Photo confirms Sanders' leadership during civil rights movement

Source: CNN

By Theodore Schleifer

Washington (CNN)Bernie Sanders' campaign manager said Friday the campaign is "100% confident" that a well-publicized photograph showing a man leading a sit-in at the University of Chicago in 1962 was, in fact, a shot of Sanders.

Four alumni of the school told Time magazine in November that the photo does not show Sanders but rather another classmate named Bruce Rappaport. But Jeff Weaver, the Sanders aide, told CNN's Jim Sciutto on Friday that the campaign was certain the photograph, which has been used in promotional videos and on social media, was indeed of him.

"That is, in fact, Bernie Sanders in those photos," Weaver said. "We're 100% confident."

Sanders' role in the civil rights movement has come under close examination as he competes for African-American votes in South Carolina. Sanders has claimed that he was an early activist for the black community dating back to the University of Chicago. But other black voices from that era have disputed Sanders' role, most prominently civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis, a Democrat, who said Thursday that he "never saw" Sanders during that time despite Sanders' work with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.

FULL story and video at link.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/sanders-civil-rights-jeff-weaver-campaign/

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Sanders campaign: Photo confirms Sanders' leadership during civil rights movement (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 OP
KnR SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Feb 2016 #2
The man who took the photos - a long respected photographer of the civil rights movement- said it was Bernie. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #3
THIS JUST IN: Sanders is real. Gregorian Feb 2016 #4
What a pathetic and stupid smear campaign tabasco Feb 2016 #5
I want to know... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #10
David Brock. This is exactly the kind of thing Clinton hired him to do. jeff47 Feb 2016 #29
thats a pretty easy one to figure out madokie Feb 2016 #39
Notice the timing of these spurious allegations. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #6
On Bill and Hillary Clinton’s First Date in 1971, They Crossed a Picket Line Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #8
Heartwarming first date. But loaded with foreshadowing. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2016 #19
Thanks Steve. Excellent background kristopher Feb 2016 #25
Oh dear. In her own words. azmom Feb 2016 #26
they crossed the picket line for Rothko? wordpix Feb 2016 #48
Obviously the GOP isnt the only ones who will do it. 7962 Feb 2016 #21
He was there from the beginning. mpcamb Feb 2016 #7
He didn't live in Vermont back then Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #28
Right. No argument. "... HARD TO STAY IN THE FOREFRONT OF THE MOVEMENT when you live in Vermont." mpcamb Feb 2016 #33
Ah, ok. Sorry. I misunderstood. Autumn Colors Feb 2016 #37
in the late 1980s, Burlington Vt became a refugee resettlement center karynnj Feb 2016 #40
Documents here deminks Feb 2016 #9
sow tabasco Feb 2016 #11
Thanks. deminks Feb 2016 #13
This smear job has made me a JEB! guy Botany Feb 2016 #12
yep, she went on to be a Walmart lawyer and Bernie continuted the good fight as a politician. trillion Feb 2016 #52
Yes, but what of the rumors that he was actually born in Kenya? n/t RufusTFirefly Feb 2016 #14
Yep-the Clinton sleaze machine-2.0 jalan48 Feb 2016 #15
That photo they won't question Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #16
The CNN title is misleading. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #17
And again the Hillarians have been fooled shawn703 Feb 2016 #18
i demand DNA evidence Enrique Feb 2016 #20
I am so disappointed in John Lewis if CNN report is true mobeau69 Feb 2016 #22
I believe Lewis knows that his friends the Clintons are in trouble and is doing whatever he can navarth Feb 2016 #23
I have (lost respect) catnhatnh Feb 2016 #43
I understand. nt navarth Feb 2016 #44
I have watched his statement. deminks Feb 2016 #27
Playing the word game, then not carefully enough. mobeau69 Feb 2016 #31
So were Bill Clinton's catnhatnh Feb 2016 #45
but ... he did "see" Hillary and President Clinton UpInArms Feb 2016 #50
The Potemkin Progressive just ran smack into the Real Deal... AzDar Feb 2016 #24
"Four alumni of the school told Time magazine in November that the photo does not show Sanders..." blackspade Feb 2016 #30
“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” - Mark Twain mobeau69 Feb 2016 #32
Rep. Lewis has established what he is rocktivity Feb 2016 #35
just like the 2004 swiftboat sailors karynnj Feb 2016 #41
Why doesn't Bernie simply come forward and say so himself? rocktivity Feb 2016 #34
Rappaport is long dead n/t Gormy Cuss Feb 2016 #47
Must K&R this one Babel_17 Feb 2016 #36
Skinner became convinced last night bananas Feb 2016 #38
K & R Duppers Feb 2016 #42
the important thing, though, is that economic inequality = racial inequality wordpix Feb 2016 #46
Kick! nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #49
Thanks, OS! Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #51

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
3. The man who took the photos - a long respected photographer of the civil rights movement- said it was Bernie.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:38 AM
Feb 2016

Have you missed all the proof of that the last day or two in the press or on DU?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
4. THIS JUST IN: Sanders is real.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

His history is real; his vision is real; his supporters are real; his win will be real.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
29. David Brock. This is exactly the kind of thing Clinton hired him to do.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

As an added "bonus", there will be more.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
39. thats a pretty easy one to figure out
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:09 PM
Feb 2016

generally speaking the person who might benefit from something like this would be the guilty party. It doesn't even have to be them but one of their hire hands to make that so

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
6. Notice the timing of these spurious allegations.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

Right before SC! This was a Swift Boating if there ever was one, and there was! This was a coordinated, timed, attack that had to be run out of Hillary's campaign. Pure Rovian tactic. They knew it was a lie and they pushed it to manipulate the black vote. Is that what you want for your/our President? Someone comfortable with lying to us to manipulate us into believing something to benefit them?

We need to throw this one back at her. Use it to show what a lying, manipulative, POS she is!

Omaha Steve

(99,594 posts)
8. On Bill and Hillary Clinton’s First Date in 1971, They Crossed a Picket Line
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

And she had such nice things to say about unions Thursday night. Throw in NAFTA....



Hillary Rodham and Bill Clinton in New Haven, Connecticut.


http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/18841/hillary_rodham_bill_clinton_and_the_1971_yale_strike


BY ZACH SCHWARTZ-WEINSTEIN TUESDAY, FEB 9, 2016, 1:36 PM

Yale Law School students Hillary Rodham and Bill Clinton were both members, alongside future Connecticut senator Richard Blumenthal and Bill Clinton’s eventual Secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor Robert Reich, of the Yale Law School Students Committee for Local 35, the university's blue-collar worker union, and signatories, during the week before the union went on strike, to a statement asserting “WE BELIEVE THE UNION DESERVES THE SUPPORT OF YALE STUDENTS AND FACULTY." Bill Clinton was even, former UNITE HERE President John Wilhelm would note decades later in his eulogy for Vincent Sirabella, the Voter Registration Chairman of the Sirabella for Mayor Campaign.

And yet, on her first date with classmate Clinton in 1971, Rodham would later recall:

We both had wanted to see a Mark Rothko exhibit at the Yale Art Gallery but, because of a labor dispute, some of the university's buildings, including the museum, were closed. As Bill and I walked by, he decided he could get us in if we offered to pick up the litter that had accumulated in the gallery's courtyard. Watching him talk our way in was the first time I saw his persuasiveness in action. We had the entire museum to ourselves. We wandered through the galleries talking about Rothko and twentieth-century art. I admit to being surprised at his interest in and knowledge of subjects that seemed, at first, unusual for a Viking from Arkansas. We ended up in the museum's courtyard, where I sat in the large lap of Henry Moore's sculpture Drape Seated Woman while we talked until dark.

The relationship between Rodham and Clinton, two instrumental figures in the decoupling of the Democratic Party from the priorities of the mainstream labor movement, thus began with the crossing of a picket line.

FULL story at link.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
25. Thanks Steve. Excellent background
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

What struck me was that their counter-strike act was in the service of personal gratification - a completely selfish motive.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
21. Obviously the GOP isnt the only ones who will do it.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:25 AM
Feb 2016

I've always said that, but a lot of folks here will blast me for it. There are plenty of Dems who will stoop to whatever level they need to in order to get their person the upper hand. These days, most of those folks work for ONE of the Dem candidates......

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
7. He was there from the beginning.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:57 AM
Feb 2016

I suspect it was hard to stay in the forefront of the movement when you live in Vermont.
You could insert a sarcasm thing along the way someplace.
VT's black population has been similar to Wyoming and Montana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population
It was 1/2 of 1% in 2000 and 1% in 2010.

His history speaks for itself.

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
28. He didn't live in Vermont back then
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:00 PM
Feb 2016

He was born and raised in Brooklyn, NY and during that era, he was a student at the Univ. of Chicago. Didn't move to Vermont until later on.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
33. Right. No argument. "... HARD TO STAY IN THE FOREFRONT OF THE MOVEMENT when you live in Vermont."
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:56 PM
Feb 2016

Emphasis mine.

"...candidate for governor of Vermont in 1972"
My point being he had a different constituency there, altho he was at the forefront of Civil Rights earlier.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
40. in the late 1980s, Burlington Vt became a refugee resettlement center
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

So, lily white Vt welcomed refugees from many countries. It is not unusual to see women in colorful, long Somali or Nepalese dress.

Not to mention he endorsed Jesse Jackson.

Botany

(70,500 posts)
12. This smear job has made me a JEB! guy
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:19 AM
Feb 2016

JEB! = Just Elect Bernie

Bernie Sanders was fighting for civil rights when HRC was a Goldwater Girl.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
18. And again the Hillarians have been fooled
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

Fooled by their candidate and now fooled by Brock. What a bunch of

mobeau69

(11,143 posts)
22. I am so disappointed in John Lewis if CNN report is true
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

According to the report, John Lewis "did meet Hillary and Bill" BUT it was some 20 years after the period of time we thought he was talking about! I know politics ain't beanbags but if this report is true it's so sad coming from John. Now I gotta make another contribution. Fight on Bernie.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
23. I believe Lewis knows that his friends the Clintons are in trouble and is doing whatever he can
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

...to help them. It's sad to see him descend into rank obfuscation, but I guess that's part of the deal.

I haven't lost any respect for Lewis, I just kinda feel bad for him. He did what he could and it was a fail. I hope he doesn't do any more. I don't want to see him ruin his reputation any more.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
43. I have (lost respect)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016

See, Bernie is 2 minorities, socialist and Jew, and clearly an ally of POC. Just because your friends ask doesn't come close to excusing this. In fact as a driving force for equal rights there can be nothing that excuses this.

deminks

(11,014 posts)
27. I have watched his statement.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

IMHO his words were chosen very carefully. All he said he didn't see Bernie. He never said Bernie was never involved. l hate to see him involved in innuendo, too.

mobeau69

(11,143 posts)
31. Playing the word game, then not carefully enough.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

John surely did "see" Bernie at some point in Washington at least. Sometimes the truth cuts you like a knife. I wish John would clean this up. I know he has the courage required.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
24. The Potemkin Progressive just ran smack into the Real Deal...
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie 'The Real Deal' Sanders...Their only hope is to muddy the waters.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
30. "Four alumni of the school told Time magazine in November that the photo does not show Sanders..."
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:12 PM
Feb 2016

"Four alumni of the school told Time magazine in November that the photo does not show Sanders but rather another classmate named Bruce Rappaport."

Who were these alumni, and what are their connections to SNCC?

I'll call it what it is: Ratfucking.

mobeau69

(11,143 posts)
32. “A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.” - Mark Twain
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

We got the kitchen sink from none other than John Lewis. That hurts.

karynnj

(59,502 posts)
41. just like the 2004 swiftboat sailors
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:02 PM
Feb 2016

Note that BOTH groups challenge the official record, but with no proof that they are correct. Both trying to eliminate true, credible, youthful parts of a candidate's biography because of how the truth validates the character of the candidate.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
34. Why doesn't Bernie simply come forward and say so himself?
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:23 PM
Feb 2016

And has anyone tried to contact Mr. Rappaport, if he's still alive?


rocktivity

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
46. the important thing, though, is that economic inequality = racial inequality
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 05:31 PM
Feb 2016

That is the message that needs to get out today.

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