Deputies: Fla. teen dies after shooting linked to hoverboard

[groundloop]

Source: CBS News

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Authorities in Florida say an 18-year-old lost his balance on a hoverboard and accidentally shot his 13-year-old cousin in the back of the head.

The shooting happened Sunday in Orlando. Officials say Lavardo Fisher died Monday night. The Orlando Sentinel reports Fisher was playing Xbox when he was shot..............

Deputies say the cousin told deputies he didn't mean to shoot the gun. He hasn't been charged.

The gun was owned by 35-year-old Walter Morame. He wasn't at the home when the shooting occurred but was arrested later Sunday on charges of possession of a weapon by a felon. Records don't say whether he's hired a lawyer.



Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/deputies-florida-teen-dies-after-shooting-linked-to-hoverboard/

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Not a lot of details in the story, but this whole thing smells fishy.

Also, a couple of days ago a 3 year old killed a 9 year old with a weapon that was laying around and no charges were filed. In this case the only reason charges were filed was because the weapon was owned by a felon. I suppose it's a good thing that someone is facing accountability, but damn!

[Botany]

1. one more day in gun loving America

[Plucketeer]

4. If you think about it

the fascination with guns is in sync with the fascination with Trump.

[hobbit709]

2. Xbox and hoverboard, OK. Where does the gun come in on that, and why?

[turbo_satan]

3. The answer to your question, in just one word...

Florida.

[William Seger]

29. Was he riding a hoverboard with a loaded gun?

WTF did the kid think he was doing -- inventing a new Olympic sport? Whoever left the gun accessible to such irresponsibility bears equal responsibility for this, IMO.

[bluedigger]

5. We've really got to do something about hoverboards.

They are just too dangerous.

[SoCalMusicLover]

26. First We Must Ban Swimming Pools & Cars

Then we can move on to hoverboards.

[valerief]

6. Why wouldn't the shooting be linked to A FUCKIN' GUN?????

[padfun]

7. Hush!!

We're going to blame it on the hoverboard!
This is Trumps America after all.

[groundloop]

8. DING!! DING!! DING!! DING!! DING!!

Unbelievable, isn't it?

[louis-t]

9. So sick of the excuses...

Didn't mean to fire the gun? Oh, well then, that makes it all better.
Didn't know the gun was loaded.
Didn't know the kids were coming over so left the gun out.
I was just cleaning it.

[AtheistCrusader]

15. If he's a felon, he's done.

Zero excuses will be accepted.

He won't be charged with the death though. Just 'Felon in possession'. Which is sad. This was negligence ON TOP of being legally ineligible to have a gun.

[SoCalMusicLover]

27. In Other Words He'll Be Out In No Time

Wanna bet the FIRST thing he does when he gets out? Gotta replace that gun right away.

[AtheistCrusader]

28. Potentially.

Without meaningful gun registration, that can't be prevented.

[left-of-center2012]

10. Who rides a hover board with a gun

and their finger on the trigger?

[groundloop]

11. Exactly my point ... the story is fishy as hell

Plus, the 18 year old would be charged as an adult.... I'm astounded that he's not facing involuntary manslaughter at the very least.

[jwirr]

12. Before we allowed so many guns this type of accident was

very common. A gun easily accessed by children with the expected results. I do not remember charges being filed back then. It was considered an accident.

I do think that we were wrong back then in the sense of whoever left a gun laying around should have been charged with some type of crime - at the very least negligence.

[AtheistCrusader]

16. Agreed.

There are criminal negligence statutes around, but they are rarely employed in this case, and I do not understand why.

Honestly, as a gun owner, it boggles my mind. Safe storage and criminal charges for incidence like this seems like a no-brainer. Also, seems fully constitutional.

So do it.

[jwirr]

18. My family also own guns and we have a huge safe that we

keep them in unless we are using them.

[AtheistCrusader]

21. Same. Its such cheap insurance for human life.

[maxsolomon]

13. The 18 year old should get charged with Manslaughter. Man 2 at least.

He's an adult; he's responsible for his actions. not meaning to do it isn't an excuse.

Walter Morame needs to go upstate for a decade.

"Enforce the laws on the books" is what the Gunners always say.

This is the America Guns have made. Pew pew!

[lark]

14. Hello gun person who said gun accidents are very rare.

Here's the 3rd I've seen since your post.

[AtheistCrusader]

17. I don't think this one will be classified as an accident.

I'm not sure it should be, either.

Traditionally, 'accident' would involve something like crossing a fence, and dropping your shotgun, or fumbling for it if it fell, etc, somehow causing it to discharge.

Riding on a hoverboard, finger on the trigger, safety off, pointing it at your friend and pulling the trigger doesn't seem like... 'an accident' to me.

[lark]

19. Disagree.

Think that's just nitpicking the meaning of the word accident. When someone is driving a car too fast and wreck, it's not called an intentional wreck, it's an accident. The person didn't mean to do it but was taking risks and it backfired on them. Same thing here. While it was very stupid, it wasn't intentional and so it was an accident.

[AtheistCrusader]

22. I don't think I'm alone in classifying that as negligence.

I wouldn't call that an accident either.

an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss; casualty; mishap:
automobile accidents.

That 'unintentionally' suggests to me, operating within tolerance when something bad happens. If you make a deliberate choice to exceed, for instance the posted speed limit, and then something bad happens, is it still 'unintentional'?

[LanternWaste]

23. Yes... because the ultimate consequence was objectively, not intentional.

then something bad happens, is it still 'unintentional'?"

Yes... because the ultimate consequence (death) was objectively, not intentional as contrasted to the subsidiary consequence (riding the board in a negligent manner). Additional adjectives may or course, be applied.

[AtheistCrusader]

24. I would accept 'accident' as a euphamism.

Something we use in conversation. Not as a criminal/accidental public health data classification system.

In that context, this should fall under negligence or criminal negligence. It's a very different thing than a gun that was say, dropped, and went off when it hit the ground, and the round hit someone. Someone is still responsible in that case, but the mechanism and intent is very different than 'I pulled the trigger but I didn't mean for it to go off'.

[demigoddess]

25. Accident , but if you drove your car into another car

you would have to pay for it through insurance or a lawsuit. Why not the same for guns which 'accidentally' go off. As I understand it if I have an accident that results in death, I still have to pay a penalty, either civil or criminal. Especially if I am breaking the law at the time, speeding for example. Cars are considered necessary for life, guns not so much. We don't hunt for our dinner these days.

[lark]

30. Perfect!

What I'd really like to see is registering for guns like you do for a car, along with having to pass a written and target test first. Guns would have to be insured as well, again like cars, and the license would be suspended for any illegal use of the gun.

[mac2766]

20. What a shame.