Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:34 PM

Clinton's emails labeled 'top secret'

Source: The Hill

The Obama administration will entirely withhold seven email chains found on Hillary Clinton’s private server because they have been classified as “top secret,” according to The Associated Press.

The former secretary of State’s presidential campaign quickly dismissed the news, which spokesman Brian Fallon called “overclassification run amok.”

“We adamently [sic] oppose the complete blocking of the release of these emails,” the campaign aide said on Twitter.

The revelation comes days before Iowa holds the first-in-the-nation nominating contest and on top of mounting scrutiny of Clinton's use of the private email server.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/267549-clintons-emails-labeled-top-secret#

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Clinton's emails labeled 'top secret' (Original post)	hoosierlib	Jan 2016	OP
sigh* nt	retrowire	Jan 2016	#1
Just got an AP bulletin on my phone about the same thing. It's definitely informing/infecting	villager	Jan 2016	#2
I bet it will be "mum's the word" on the major networks.	Elmer S. E. Dump	Jan 2016	#19
SHE SHOULD NOT be the nominee. Too risky with this,	John Poet	Jan 2016	#172
If she's the nominee Trump will crush her	ram2008	Jan 2016	#3
She should step aside and let Biden take her place	Angel Martin	Jan 2016	#22
Nonsense. Based on what?	cali	Jan 2016	#55
She broke the law buy sending highly classified information over unsecured servers	IamTheNoodle	Jan 2016	#67
You realize that Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing	LynneSin	Jan 2016	#73
then prosecute them too. just because others do it doesn't change a thing	roguevalley	Jan 2016	#76
If the precedent has been set (of not doing anything)then it should be seen as political targeting .	IamTheNoodle	Jan 2016	#84
Jail her for what?	LynneSin	Jan 2016	#85
FBI is not right wing.	840high	Jan 2016	#194
FBI also said the emails were not classified when they were sent	LynneSin	Jan 2016	#236
There were 16-18 emails between	840high	Jan 2016	#237
Thank you	7962	Jan 2016	#113
It's called "what-abouttery" and is a poor logical fallacy.	AngryOldDem	Jan 2016	#229
Facts be damned some folks here just hate Hillary...if you close your eyes you might	randys1	Jan 2016	#79
No, just worried	IamTheNoodle	Jan 2016	#100
No shit, comrade.	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#101
Neither had a personal server and neither are said to have sent classified info	karynnj	Jan 2016	#121
Last that I know, Colin Powell and Condi Rice are not running for president n/t	AZ Progressive	Jan 2016	#155
Powell and Rice had aides transcribe top secret memo info to...	grasswire	Jan 2016	#213
+1000 nt	Mojorabbit	Jan 2016	#215
NOT the same	backtomn	Feb 2016	#244
She didn't do the sending.	LiberalFighter	Jan 2016	#116
Doesn't matter if she didn't do the sending.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#177
According to my sources ...	GeorgeGist	Jan 2016	#157
Maybe she shouldn't have set up a private email server for work emails	Travis_0004	Jan 2016	#169
Let's get the story straight.	BlueStreak	Jan 2016	#210
Not Classifed	LeFleur1	Jan 2016	#235
I could see myself voting for Hillary but Biden would be very reasonable...	TipTok	Jan 2016	#120
They said almost the same thing about Obama.	notadmblnd	Jan 2016	#126
No. Just no.	SusanCalvin	Jan 2016	#114
Bull. Secretaries Powell and Rice before her did the same thing.	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#129
Secretary Powell had a private server? nt	ram2008	Jan 2016	#130
Well, he said he used his personal email for Department business,	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#135
No, they didn't.	frylock	Jan 2016	#132
Give you Rice. Powell said he used private email for State Department business.	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#133
No, he didn't.	frylock	Jan 2016	#136
I'm being told something different.	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#137
I was mistaken when I said that Powell had one system for private email, and one for govt business..	frylock	Jan 2016	#150
Bottom line for me - I'm not concerned over	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#154
I think it speaks to her incredible lack of judgment and absolute hubris..	frylock	Jan 2016	#158
A Republican White House	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#160
Then vote for Sanders.	frylock	Jan 2016	#161
Plan to.	cheapdate	Jan 2016	#165
It's not going to be easy, but I feel more confident with every passing day	frylock	Jan 2016	#168
I hafta agree Hillary should step aside... but only to let President Sanders assume his rightful place as leader of the progressive movement in this country.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2016	#227
sad that this, instead of her support of the Iraq War, is what might be her downfall	uhnope	Jan 2016	#4
In both cases it is her bad judgment. Wisdom and good judgment are extremely serious	TryLogic	Jan 2016	#102
she knew what she was doing was illegal but figured she's a clinton, she can do as she pleases	bowens43	Jan 2016	#5
It's also bad staffing.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#65
She surrounded herself with sycophants and yes men..	frylock	Jan 2016	#131
Really? None of the emails were classified or marked top secret at the time.	LiberalFighter	Jan 2016	#118
+100	AZ Progressive	Jan 2016	#156
.^that	840high	Jan 2016	#198
This morning on one of the news shows I heard a commentator musing about whether the FBI	Vinca	Jan 2016	#6
She can't defend against this and be focused on running an effective campaign at the same time.	JudyM	Jan 2016	#10
HRC (7/25/15) - "I did not send or get classified emails in private account"	leveymg	Jan 2016	#7
The second statement makes no sense whatsoever.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#72
I can't remember which crazy repub rep said they will impeach her the moment she	roguevalley	Jan 2016	#78
I don't think any of this is impeachable.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#87
They impeached her husband for lying	Le Taz Hot	Jan 2016	#144
Anything is impeachable. All it takes is a majority vote in the House. Expecting the Senate to	24601	Jan 2016	#171
Everything is impeachable. Doesn't even have to be a crime.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#178
Meaning Hillary is going to be too mired in congressional inquiry for the next year or more to	JudyM	Jan 2016	#8
The good of the party should be her first concern.	Angel Martin	Jan 2016	#9
It was part wishful thinking and part tongue-in-cheek. We shall see.	JudyM	Jan 2016	#11
That is pretty comical,	murielm99	Jan 2016	#43
It's about progressive values, which used to be the heart of the party.	JudyM	Jan 2016	#46
Some people care about policy. Others care about the level of respect being shown to the Party.	frylock	Jan 2016	#134
I was thinking "LOLOLOL" before I clicked your post!! Good one.	7962	Jan 2016	#115
Hillary's concern is Hillary.	840high	Jan 2016	#199
Mais oiu, la parti c'est moi. n/t	24601	Jan 2016	#217
This isn't ever going to go away	Arazi	Jan 2016	#12
It would be worse if the lid popped off right before the general.	Elmer S. E. Dump	Jan 2016	#28
Why do you think the Republicans aren't talking much about it?	jeff47	Jan 2016	#179
I like how her spokesman "adamently opposes the complete blocking of the release of these emails"	GummyBearz	Jan 2016	#13
Not only that, but if it's questionable how can disclosure be good for national security?	JudyM	Jan 2016	#48
Yep	840high	Jan 2016	#200
Question is	pscot	Jan 2016	#14
I just wrote in post #16	OKNancy	Jan 2016	#18
Even if it was classified after the fact...	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#53
Good judgment is not one of her strong points. Quite the opposite.	TryLogic	Jan 2016	#107
Huh?	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#138
So, all the. Years of experience she tells us she has and she cannot recognize sensitive subject mat	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#170
What's considered sensitive today	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#173
News organizations do not determine classification.	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#176
But they can publish information that might be considered sensitive	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#219
Wrong!	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#223
The Pentagon papers were eventually declared unclassified	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#224
You seemingly took my poor example as an unfortunate ray of hope.	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#231
Ray of hope?	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#233
Late at night to read turgid EOs but I did see this at first glance.	Hangingon	Jan 2016	#238
Nope.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#181
Would leaked information be reclassified	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#220
This message was self-deleted by its author	840high	Jan 2016	#201
Does it matter?	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Jan 2016	#97
You're trained to recognize sensitive material whether marked or not.	7962	Jan 2016	#117
Same ol bullshit..	asuhornets	Jan 2016	#15
I was just thinking the same exact thing	LynneSin	Jan 2016	#68
Unbelievable n/t	asuhornets	Jan 2016	#88
Exactly...	TipTok	Jan 2016	#142
The Hill doesn't state it specifically, but other more reputable sites point out that	OKNancy	Jan 2016	#16
Kirby said the emails were not MARKED classified	karynnj	Jan 2016	#29
do you realize that discussing a news story about a drone strike makes an email	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#37
Sure - it would be the information included in the discussion that would be more or less significant	karynnj	Jan 2016	#52
depends on what they say.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#59
Thats exactly right. Yet everyone says "nothing to see here...."	7962	Jan 2016	#119
That doesn't matter, or it shouldn't. As Sec of State she should know the info is top secret.	JudyM	Jan 2016	#32
They were not MARKED classified when they were sent. That's a far cry	Akicita	Jan 2016	#47
Classified information appears in the press on a regular basis.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#63
Ok. That may explain one. What about the other 1,300?	Akicita	Jan 2016	#74
every discussion of the drone program would be considered classified.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#77
Its been widely reported that there are over 1,300 classified emails found so far.	Akicita	Jan 2016	#90
to be precise, FOIA bureaucrats have labeled 1300 documents 'classified'	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#92
1600 now.	Akicita	Jan 2016	#148
And it's still classified.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#184
I'm not sure that gmail	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#75
DIRTY TRICKS WEEKENDS HAVE BEGUN!!!	Pathwalker	Jan 2016	#91
"Not marked" is not the same as "Not classified".	jeff47	Jan 2016	#182
Overclassification?	daybranch	Jan 2016	#17
no, it's that the government doesn't like to provide the public access to how it does business	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#21
It's obvious the CIA classfied Hilliary's secret yoga moves and some top secret	Akicita	Jan 2016	#149
When will she be indicted?	Reter	Jan 2016	#20
Stop watching Fox News. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#23
It's on every news channel	Reter	Jan 2016	#58
Stop watching Fox News.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#60
Thank you, geek tragedy. You represent your candidate well.	Metric System	Jan 2016	#104
Don't watch Fox	Reter	Jan 2016	#152
"Massive federal crime" lol sure you don't watch Fox nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#159
Yes - federal crime. I don't even have cable TV.	840high	Jan 2016	#202
no-hillary-did-not-commit-a-crime-	Ana Hauhet	Jan 2016	#239
No, she wont. You forget who we're talking about. Someone else will take the fall.	7962	Jan 2016	#122
And then the minions will get jobs	Yupster	Jan 2016	#140
There you have it.	7962	Jan 2016	#143
Who do you know who's been indicted for documents retroactively classified?	pnwmom	Jan 2016	#25
It is completely unlikely that these top secret threads were discussing things in the public domain	karynnj	Jan 2016	#33
it's actually highly unlikely the top secret designation has anything to do with national security	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#39
Disingenuous estimate - even accepting the premise	karynnj	Jan 2016	#49
do you consider the existence of the CIA's drone program to be "top secret?"	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#51
I agree there is over classification - but these are not confidential, but top secret nt	karynnj	Jan 2016	#54
they certainly do overclassify stuff as top secret too. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#71
TS/SCI and SAPs require tons of paperwork to justify.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#186
Are you serious? This isn't a procedural issue. The content is top secret regardless.	JudyM	Jan 2016	#35
Same question regarding her IWR vote: Criminal or Incompetent? Either way, she should be	AzDar	Jan 2016	#24
so you believe the Fox News spin on this.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#27
After two decades of villifying Hillary Clinton we have plenty of right-wing kool-aid drinkers here	LynneSin	Jan 2016	#80
seriously, embracing the security state's hatred of transparency in an effort to score	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#86
If all the news reports are talking about this, why keep insisting its just Fox?	7962	Jan 2016	#123
every news story has stated as a factual matter	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#124
Many reporters have said as much, yes. Especially incompetent.	7962	Jan 2016	#127
which beacons of journalistic credibility have stated	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#139
I saw it on Chris Cuomo's show; one of his reporters,	7962	Jan 2016	#145
That the email server was a mistake has already been conceded.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#222
Except that it wasnt just a "mistake". There's also this:	7962	Jan 2016	#240
Lol, Murdoch Post. Very revealing. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#241
Shooting the messenger again.	7962	Feb 2016	#242
Yes, it's there, in the NY Post. nt	geek tragedy	Feb 2016	#243
Its not an op-ed, its an interview. There's a difference	7962	Feb 2016	#245
ABC opened with this tonight.	840high	Jan 2016	#204
You must watch Fox. You seem	840high	Jan 2016	#203
I know the "throw Hillary in jail" cries come from the bowels	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#221
perfect summation	left lowrider	Jan 2016	#40
Why is the administration doing this?	mvd	Jan 2016	#26
it's career bureaucrats doing it.	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#31
This is correctly being done by career professionals in the state department	karynnj	Jan 2016	#42
Ok thanks for the explanation	mvd	Jan 2016	#45
See post #47 for the answer to your question.	Akicita	Jan 2016	#56
Hillary's campaign wants them	840high	Jan 2016	#205
This is standard with Freedom of Information Act releases.	yallerdawg	Jan 2016	#30
Wow	rtracey	Jan 2016	#34
I Remember hearing that in a earlier email Hillary was giving instructions on	awake	Jan 2016	#36
Bug-man said an indictment was coming	Roland99	Jan 2016	#38
All they have is 22 retroactively Re-classified emails out of 30,000 total..??	lobodons	Jan 2016	#41
The only time Hillary tells the truth is if she tells a double lie (nt)	nyabingi	Jan 2016	#44
What's the problem with classified emails anyway?	yallerdawg	Jan 2016	#50
The problem is electability.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#82
You understand this is all more Benghazi Republican mischief?	yallerdawg	Jan 2016	#103
No, I don't understand it that way.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#108
That's your interpretation.	yallerdawg	Jan 2016	#110
Yes I am.	OrwellwasRight	Jan 2016	#112
The "covered eyes & ears" syndrome IS amazing isnt it? nt	7962	Jan 2016	#125
No I don't.	840high	Jan 2016	#206
Was it classified when it was received/sent?	Molusko	Jan 2016	#57
All we've been told is that they were not "marked Classified" which means nothing because no secret	Akicita	Jan 2016	#66
What happens if Huma sends classified info to Hillary	Yupster	Jan 2016	#141
Exactly	Akicita	Jan 2016	#147
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jan 2016	#216
All the emails are being reviewed for release to the public.	yallerdawg	Jan 2016	#70
I don't know about over-classification, but for sure there's some over exceptionalism	HereSince1628	Jan 2016	#61
As with all the Clinton email stories--this will be debunked quickly.	Kingofalldems	Jan 2016	#62
So they are spinning it as overclassification. Clever, but not good enough. Now they are impugning	thereismore	Jan 2016	#64
so you've reviewed these documents and can verify that the Fox News spin on this	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#81
Don't drag Fox into this. It's Obama's people saying this. nt	thereismore	Jan 2016	#83
really? Which Obama people are saying Clinton broke the law and is going to get	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#89
Obama's people are saying her emails contained information of the highest sensitivity.	thereismore	Jan 2016	#93
state department FOIA bureaucrats are saying that, not Obama's inner circle	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#94
It's the Obama administration. He is the top executive and they are his people. Got it? nt	thereismore	Jan 2016	#95
career civil servants are not Obama's people any more than they were	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#96
Don't insult me and take your bone somewhere else. nt	thereismore	Jan 2016	#98
that post was not insulting and none of my bones are out of place nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2016	#109
Either way, they are not 'Fox News'	John Poet	Jan 2016	#174
Not Fox.	840high	Jan 2016	#196
yeah, it's "overclassification"...	Angel Martin	Jan 2016	#214
facebook	MondoCane	Jan 2016	#69
Thank god it's Friday, where stories go to die.	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#99
You forgot /Sarc tag	IamTheNoodle	Jan 2016	#106
Just reported on NPR	Arazi	Jan 2016	#105
I just find these accusations very sexist.	AngryAmish	Jan 2016	#111
Sarcasm?	JudyM	Jan 2016	#146
Groan.	840high	Jan 2016	#207
No...More...Clintons.	SoapBox	Jan 2016	#128
....	840high	Jan 2016	#208
Thanks again, Sanders supporters!	6000eliot	Jan 2016	#151
The FBI cares	Reter	Jan 2016	#153
According to liars like Issa and Delay,	6000eliot	Jan 2016	#162
The FBI doesn't serve under Issa or Delay.	frylock	Jan 2016	#167
Whatever. Ho hum.	6000eliot	Jan 2016	#191
We're a year into this shit, but..	frylock	Jan 2016	#163
True, if by "shit" you mean "right-wing smears against Hillary Clinton."	6000eliot	Jan 2016	#164
No, I mean Hillary's shit show..	frylock	Jan 2016	#166
This "colassal fuck up" is evidence of Hillary's superior	John Poet	Jan 2016	#175
How boring.	6000eliot	Jan 2016	#190
Utterly droll	frylock	Jan 2016	#197
You bet she does.	840high	Jan 2016	#211
None of Those 22 New Hillary Emails Were Classified When They Were Sent	still_one	Jan 2016	#183
They were all stripped out of other agency classified documents	leveymg	Jan 2016	#226
The Administration cares.	840high	Jan 2016	#209
why leave out that NONE of those emails were classified when they were sent?	still_one	Jan 2016	#180
Hey!	MrWendel	Jan 2016	#185
In fact here is the real story that Sanders' supporters want to ignore	still_one	Jan 2016	#188
Because that isn't true.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#187
The state department John Kirby came out and said they were NOT classified at the time	still_one	Jan 2016	#189
Once again, not marked is different than not being classified.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#192
Nothing is going to happen. The only ones who are making this an issue are republicans and Sanders	still_one	Jan 2016	#193
Just rock back and forth, telling yourself that.	jeff47	Jan 2016	#195
You're living in De Nile.	840high	Jan 2016	#212
Easy way to settle it. Even if classified, the President has authority to declassify material	24601	Jan 2016	#218
Worst case senario is if she defeats Bernie in the primary	Calista241	Jan 2016	#225
Worst case scenario...	AngryOldDem	Jan 2016	#228
No, if she wins and has to vacate, her VP would take over.	Calista241	Jan 2016	#234
Patreus gave secrets to his mistress, who was a reporter,	Darb	Feb 2016	#247
Hillary is a fucking anvil that will sink the Democratic Party...	Odin2005	Jan 2016	#230
+1	CharlotteVale	Jan 2016	#232
More than slightly hyperbolic.	Darb	Feb 2016	#246
legally not guilty	creon	Mar 2016	#248

Response to hoosierlib (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:35 PM

retrowire (10,345 posts)

Clinton's emails labeled 'top secret'

1. sigh* nt

2. Just got an AP bulletin on my phone about the same thing. It's definitely informing/infecting

19. I bet it will be "mum's the word" on the major networks.

172. SHE SHOULD NOT be the nominee. Too risky with this,

3. If she's the nominee Trump will crush her

22. She should step aside and let Biden take her place

55. Nonsense. Based on what?

67. She broke the law buy sending highly classified information over unsecured servers

73. You realize that Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing

76. then prosecute them too. just because others do it doesn't change a thing

84. If the precedent has been set (of not doing anything)then it should be seen as political targeting .

85. Jail her for what?

194. FBI is not right wing.

236. FBI also said the emails were not classified when they were sent

237. There were 16-18 emails between

113. Thank you

229. It's called "what-abouttery" and is a poor logical fallacy.

79. Facts be damned some folks here just hate Hillary...if you close your eyes you might

100. No, just worried

101. No shit, comrade.

121. Neither had a personal server and neither are said to have sent classified info

155. Last that I know, Colin Powell and Condi Rice are not running for president n/t

213. Powell and Rice had aides transcribe top secret memo info to...

215. +1000 nt

244. NOT the same

116. She didn't do the sending.

177. Doesn't matter if she didn't do the sending.

157. According to my sources ...

169. Maybe she shouldn't have set up a private email server for work emails

210. Let's get the story straight.

235. Not Classifed

120. I could see myself voting for Hillary but Biden would be very reasonable...

126. They said almost the same thing about Obama.

114. No. Just no.

129. Bull. Secretaries Powell and Rice before her did the same thing.

130. Secretary Powell had a private server? nt

135. Well, he said he used his personal email for Department business,

132. No, they didn't.

133. Give you Rice. Powell said he used private email for State Department business.

136. No, he didn't.

137. I'm being told something different.

150. I was mistaken when I said that Powell had one system for private email, and one for govt business..

154. Bottom line for me - I'm not concerned over

158. I think it speaks to her incredible lack of judgment and absolute hubris..

160. A Republican White House

161. Then vote for Sanders.

165. Plan to.

168. It's not going to be easy, but I feel more confident with every passing day

227. I hafta agree Hillary should step aside... but only to let President Sanders assume his rightful place as leader of the progressive movement in this country.

4. sad that this, instead of her support of the Iraq War, is what might be her downfall

102. In both cases it is her bad judgment. Wisdom and good judgment are extremely serious

5. she knew what she was doing was illegal but figured she's a clinton, she can do as she pleases

65. It's also bad staffing.

131. She surrounded herself with sycophants and yes men..

118. Really? None of the emails were classified or marked top secret at the time.

156. +100

198. .^that

6. This morning on one of the news shows I heard a commentator musing about whether the FBI

10. She can't defend against this and be focused on running an effective campaign at the same time.

7. HRC (7/25/15) - "I did not send or get classified emails in private account"

72. The second statement makes no sense whatsoever.

78. I can't remember which crazy repub rep said they will impeach her the moment she

87. I don't think any of this is impeachable.

144. They impeached her husband for lying

171. Anything is impeachable. All it takes is a majority vote in the House. Expecting the Senate to

178. Everything is impeachable. Doesn't even have to be a crime.

8. Meaning Hillary is going to be too mired in congressional inquiry for the next year or more to

9. The good of the party should be her first concern.

11. It was part wishful thinking and part tongue-in-cheek. We shall see.

43. That is pretty comical,

46. It's about progressive values, which used to be the heart of the party.

134. Some people care about policy. Others care about the level of respect being shown to the Party.

115. I was thinking "LOLOLOL" before I clicked your post!! Good one.

199. Hillary's concern is Hillary.

217. Mais oiu, la parti c'est moi. n/t

12. This isn't ever going to go away

28. It would be worse if the lid popped off right before the general.

179. Why do you think the Republicans aren't talking much about it?

13. I like how her spokesman "adamently opposes the complete blocking of the release of these emails"

35. Are you serious? This isn't a procedural issue. The content is top secret regardless.