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Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:13 PM

 

Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina are dropped from main stage Republican debate

Source: NYT

The Republican debate stage will be noticeably smaller when the candidates gather in Charleston, S.C., on Thursday night for their first debate of the year.

On Monday, Fox Business Network, the host of the debate, announced on “Lou Dobbs Tonight” the qualifiers for the main stage, and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky and Carly Fiorina — who have both been slipping in recent polls — did not make the cut.

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Minutes before the announcement, Mr. Paul said in an interview with CNN that after being told he would not make the main debate, he informed the network that he would not participate in the undercard debate, reiterating a promise he had made last month.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/11/rand-paul-and-carly-fiorina-are-dropped-from-mainstage-republican-debate/?_r=0



I'll miss Rand Paul a bit as he brings a more thoughtful perspective to several issues like foreign policy, but he was always more a conscience candidate for the GOP's isolationist wing than a credible contender. Can't say I'll miss Carly Fiorina, who has excellent debating skills but an adversarial relationship with facts.

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Reply Rand Paul and Carly Fiorina are dropped from main stage Republican debate (Original post)
anigbrowl Jan 2016 OP
tabasco Jan 2016 #1
anigbrowl Jan 2016 #5
tabasco Jan 2016 #13
anigbrowl Jan 2016 #14
Volaris Jan 2016 #18
CTyankee Jan 2016 #2
global1 Jan 2016 #3
Brother Buzz Jan 2016 #10
Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #4
FSogol Jan 2016 #6
valerief Jan 2016 #7
stopbush Jan 2016 #8
trillion Jan 2016 #20
truthisfreedom Jan 2016 #9
Reter Jan 2016 #11
Marie Marie Jan 2016 #12
trillion Jan 2016 #21
Zambero Jan 2016 #15
anigbrowl Jan 2016 #16
L. Coyote Jan 2016 #17
anigbrowl Jan 2016 #19

Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:16 PM

1. Your standards for "thoughtful perspective"

 

are a bit lower than mine.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:42 PM

5. I force myself to look for the positive aspects in everyone

 

If I can't think of one straight away it's a clue that bias might be clouding my thinking. I don't necessarily need to like or agree with someone or something (such as a work of art) to observe strengths and weaknesses.

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Response to anigbrowl (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:49 PM

13. I should've put a smilie with my post.

 

I wasn't trying to be an ass.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:52 PM

14. No worries, I wasn't offended

 

My style is a bit out of step with the groupthink that sometimes prevails at DU. I have also been known to clap for the other team at baseball games should they make an especially good play

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Response to anigbrowl (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:32 AM

18. I would agree with your assessment

Rand Paul understands the definition of 'Blowback', and thats commendable as hell coming from the (mostly) illiterate players on that stage...but total isolationism isnt quite the solution, either.

But if Rand understood the second part as well as the first, he would be running as a Liberal, instead of a libertarian.

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:18 PM

2. two fewer shits spewing their hate and their "facts." ENOUGH!!!!

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:21 PM

3. How Did Jeb Make The Main Stage?.....nt

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Response to global1 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:22 PM

10. The men behind the curtain greased a couple of palms would be my guess

The fix is in, but it's going to a Herculean task.

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:25 PM

4. "adversarial relationship with facts"

 

That is just about the nicest way I've ever seen to say a person is a LIAR!!

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:45 PM

6. Fuck Rand Paul

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:55 PM

7. Who's going to pick up the fetus slack? nt

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:05 PM

8. Fuck Rand Paul and fuck Carly Fiorina.

Glad both of them aren't getting traction, even among the knuckle-dragging Rs.

Fuck all the R candidates, for that matter.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:11 AM

20. I respectfully have to agree with you.

 

Especially on all the RW candidates.

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:07 PM

9. Carly Fiornia has an adversarial relationship with facts! How succinct.

Love it.

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 09:23 PM

11. A shame how they can make a sitting US Senator miss the main debate

 

He's also ahead of Kasich in every poll, and about tied with Bush and Christie, yet they are all in. Disgraceful.

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:47 PM

12. Oh Carly, I will miss your charm and warmth -

NOT! Your "fun with the facts" were entertaining. Buh-bye, you are definitely toast.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:14 AM

21. I couldn't stand her.

 

or Trump, Or, Christie, or any of them...

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:08 AM

15. Rand will be playing hooky

A confirmed no-show for Thursday's low-polling kindergarten kids' pre-debate.

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Response to Zambero (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:19 AM

16. It'd be funny if his numbers went up as a result. This season anything can happen. nt

 

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Response to anigbrowl (Original post)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:40 AM

17. The Seven Dwarfs: Post-Doc, Trumpy, Flappy, Creepy, Rashful, Sleezy, and Little Poppy.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 12, 2016, 01:50 AM

19. That's just begging to be turned into a DU landing page meme for Thursday! nt

 

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