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Judi Lynn

(160,415 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:22 PM Jan 2016

Call for supplies as Oregon standoff enters second week

Source: Associated Press

Call for supplies as Oregon standoff enters second week

Rick Bowmer, Associated Press

Updated 6:01 pm, Sunday, January 10, 2016

BURNS, Ore. (AP) — The occupation of national wildlife area by a small, armed group upset over federal land policies stretched into its second week as the mother of the group's leader asked supporters to send supplies - everything from warm blankets to coffee creamer.

The group that seized the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon's high desert country on Jan. 2 planned no media briefings. It was quiet at the entrance to the refuge Sunday.

The leader of the occupation, Ammon Bundy, has repeatedly rejected calls to leave buildings at the refuge despite pleas from the county sheriff, from many local residents and from Oregon's governor, among others. He has said the group will leave when there is a plan to transfer control of federal land to locals.

. . .

On Saturday, Ammon Bundy's mother, Carol Bundy, sent an email to supporters asking them to send her son's group supplies from a list of more than 80 items, including sleeping bags, wool socks, cigarettes, toiletries, food, coffee and "French Vanilla Creamer."



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/science/article/Call-for-supplies-as-Oregon-standoff-enters-6749383.php

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Call for supplies as Oregon standoff enters second week (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2016 OP
Squirrel flavored Funyions Cary Jan 2016 #1
It's a bird sanctuary. We all know what snacks to send them. longship Jan 2016 #2
I don't want to hear a peep out of them. christx30 Jan 2016 #19
the rainbow colors make it even better passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #69
They also need their psychiatric meds too!!! n/t RKP5637 Jan 2016 #3
(cue Ken Burns) My Dearest Rose. Life is hard out on the range. We're out of French Vanilla creamer. underpants Jan 2016 #4
This is one of the best comments I've saltpoint Jan 2016 #21
Thanks underpants Jan 2016 #22
Hilarious! That's what popped into my head too - The Ken Burns style sad fiddle w/narration. myrna minx Jan 2016 #24
+ underpants Jan 2016 #31
Shouldn't that be: Freedom Vanilla creamer? Marie Marie Jan 2016 #30
Great minds waddirum Jan 2016 #34
Big plus one to your most devilish post! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #37
Awesome! n/t Chemisse Jan 2016 #62
I wonder if Mom's list includes Prep H and KY jelly. passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #70
It is funny that one of these "tough guy"'s mother sent the request underpants Jan 2016 #78
Now why the fuck Pharaoh Jan 2016 #5
PRECISELY!! It's like the 'authorities' WANT this craziness to drag on and on. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #11
Exactly! homegirl Jan 2016 #25
What are the odds that the feds don't have them infiltrated already? That could be one reason brewens Jan 2016 #35
I'm kinda' wondering Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #39
They certainly seem to be big buds with the sheriff. n/t Chemisse Jan 2016 #64
That is my thought, too Cosmocat Jan 2016 #57
And where did they find the bunch of keys that opened all the doors passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #71
That's what I've been wondering!! Chemisse Jan 2016 #63
I wish I could make up a care package for them Plucketeer Jan 2016 #6
Big box of roaches 7962 Jan 2016 #8
Don't forget the bread bags. Downwinder Jan 2016 #16
Some blotter acid DBoon Jan 2016 #23
Maybe some... 3catwoman3 Jan 2016 #33
I was thinking send them sandwiches that had been sitting out for four or five days davidpdx Jan 2016 #54
Dried prunes and guava are good snacks. /nt NCjack Jan 2016 #7
Restrooms could be a great source of all-natural nutrition. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2016 #9
Uh ..... left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #61
Oh? They NEED more supplies? Why aren't the FBI and the Sheriff at-the-ready with those? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #10
They're probably all chipping in for chips and soda. n/t Chemisse Jan 2016 #65
If the authorities allow a god damn thing in I'm mad as hell jimlup Jan 2016 #12
If they were black Pharaoh Jan 2016 #29
Sure, they would. Unbelievable. I have no doubt you're right. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #49
Very likely. And at the very least, Chemisse Jan 2016 #66
Send Snowballs ... JoePhilly Jan 2016 #13
Put two pink gum drops on top and you've got boobies! passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #72
Or, add one twinky!! JoePhilly Jan 2016 #73
All such pathetic losers. 63splitwindow Jan 2016 #14
Them boys is runnin outta CIGARETTES and CHEW! Warpy Jan 2016 #15
They'd be out in a day!! No joke! Chemisse Jan 2016 #67
Oh, please, they're intrepid survivalists! Warpy Jan 2016 #77
Why don't they just saunter down to Walgreen's or the local grocery store? Aren't these the same myrna minx Jan 2016 #17
Alamo fantasy camp underpants Jan 2016 #27
Apran 4" uppityperson Jan 2016 #18
Some of these guys have kids. Who saltpoint Jan 2016 #20
Why are they mooching off people? Bootstraps time. Eat dirt fer crying out loud! onecaliberal Jan 2016 #26
If Ammon had enough to buy a new 5,000 sq ft house in June 2015 why is he crying poor now? Ford_Prefect Jan 2016 #28
Especially when more then likely Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #40
That's my point. I don't think they are there to do what they claim. Ford_Prefect Jan 2016 #44
Makes me wonder Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #45
Doubtful. I don't get the feeling this bunch was doing that kind of planning. Ford_Prefect Jan 2016 #46
would not work out FreedomRain Jan 2016 #50
What happened to the plan lordsummerisle Jan 2016 #32
I thought they were going to do that days ago passiveporcupine Jan 2016 #74
Oh, nice now material support of terrorists libodem Jan 2016 #36
Good point! Those sending in supplies should be charged with being accessories. Chemisse Jan 2016 #68
No doubt by now the militia men need a diaper change. Rex Jan 2016 #38
how odd..it's federal controlled property yet the fed-in-chief has no comment or action to reveal n msongs Jan 2016 #41
The need some Hot Pockets kentauros Jan 2016 #42
Illustration from the next Republican-majority-school board approved history book? Mike__M Jan 2016 #43
Sleeping bags? milestogo Jan 2016 #47
I think its cute how they're starving themselves out. trillion Jan 2016 #48
Efforts should be made post haste saltpoint Jan 2016 #51
Send them this stuff, it will clear them out in a hurry. Paper Roses Jan 2016 #52
"French Vanilla Creamer" left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #53
I've heard of "latte liberals" Locrian Jan 2016 #55
Would they accept Pumpkin Spice creamer? Those are on clearance csziggy Jan 2016 #58
That stuff is disgusting. NastyRiffraff Jan 2016 #75
It wouldn't be surprising Geronimoe Jan 2016 #56
CROW & COYOTE discuss the BurnsPaiute / BundyBoy affair L. Coyote Jan 2016 #59
these do it yourselfers are pretty lame and stupid. MariaThinks Jan 2016 #60
coffee creamer? Real militia types would drink their coffee black. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #76
Takers, they are. How long will they live off of donations? louis-t Jan 2016 #79

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. It's a bird sanctuary. We all know what snacks to send them.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jan 2016

And it fits perfectly to their agenda, such as it is.

If you are holding a bird sanctuary hostage, there is only one snack to send.


underpants

(182,564 posts)
4. (cue Ken Burns) My Dearest Rose. Life is hard out on the range. We're out of French Vanilla creamer.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

Several of the crew forgot their bed rolls and a lack of toiletries have spirits running low. But my love for you will keep me going. If you run into Doc Barker ask him what he suggests for a guy who's just spent a few days in Kansas City, he'll know what that means.

 

Pharaoh

(8,209 posts)
5. Now why the fuck
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:33 PM
Jan 2016

would they let any supplies in through the post office or any other means? That just makes no sense whatsoever!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
11. PRECISELY!! It's like the 'authorities' WANT this craziness to drag on and on.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:44 PM
Jan 2016

they're doing nothing to end it. Nothing. It's patently irresponsible.

homegirl

(1,427 posts)
25. Exactly!
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jan 2016

Why let any supplies through to these scofflaws. I hope the authorities have turned off all utilities.


brewens

(13,532 posts)
35. What are the odds that the feds don't have them infiltrated already? That could be one reason
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jan 2016

for playing it the way they are. They probably knew all about it before they ever went out there.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
39. I'm kinda' wondering
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jan 2016

If the Reverse could be true. so much corrupt placements in both private & public positions.

Cosmocat

(14,557 posts)
57. That is my thought, too
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jan 2016

I don't get how the gun wielding idiots got in.

I know it is a tough spot, and it will be bloody hell if a WACO situation occurs, but at the very least they gotta have that place buttoned up, no one in and one on out.

These moron's stupidity and half arsedness can be what gets this resolved.

Freeze/starve them out.

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
63. That's what I've been wondering!!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:49 PM
Jan 2016

The quickest way to end this standoff is to cut off their supplies. It's pretty elementary.

Ohh, but they're just good ole boys protecting the ranch, and we don't want them going without their snacks.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
6. I wish I could make up a care package for them
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jan 2016

Baby rattles, jars of Gerbers, toy guns, sun screen, you get the idea.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
54. I was thinking send them sandwiches that had been sitting out for four or five days
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jan 2016

Food poisoning is painful as hell.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
9. Restrooms could be a great source of all-natural nutrition.
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:42 PM
Jan 2016

They should give it shot before they come begging to outsiders.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. Oh? They NEED more supplies? Why aren't the FBI and the Sheriff at-the-ready with those?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jan 2016

Those responsible for ending this daily worsening situation have done absolutely nothing to cut off these armed lunatics access to ever more supplies being brought in by whoever whenever; so they may as well just take these armed insurrectionists the supplies themselves.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
12. If the authorities allow a god damn thing in I'm mad as hell
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jan 2016

this is infuriating. These idiots should have been isolated from the first hour. God damn it!

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
66. Very likely. And at the very least,
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jan 2016

the supplies would be cut off and the utilities shut off.

But no, we taxpayers are actually paying for their heat and electric!

Warpy

(111,109 posts)
15. Them boys is runnin outta CIGARETTES and CHEW!
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 09:59 PM
Jan 2016

All the Feds need to do is block those two things from getting in and half of them will slink out of there in a week.

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
67. They'd be out in a day!! No joke!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jan 2016

Why in the F we are letting supplies get through, I have no idea.

Warpy

(111,109 posts)
77. Oh, please, they're intrepid survivalists!
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

They'd smoke everything down to the filters and then chew the filters to get all the goo out of them.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
17. Why don't they just saunter down to Walgreen's or the local grocery store? Aren't these the same
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jan 2016

stolen valor "rugged patriots" who come and go as they please from the tax payer heated/illuminated buildings, stay in motels, drink themselves silly from "contributions", and dine in local high end restaurants?

What a dope show and the folks who would give money to these entitled grifters are like the fools who would give money to the Palin Side Show. How these fools are allowed - after all this time - to come and go and pretend to be in some sort of Alamo fantasy camp, is beyond me - AND to go begging/whining for supplies.

"Day 2 of the siege and we are still without the Keurag Pods. Martha, please word - we need french vanilla creamers. I fear, without provisions from the USPS, we cannot survive another afternoon..."

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
20. Some of these guys have kids. Who
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jan 2016

will be sitting in school classrooms all this week wondering what's going to happen to their fathers.

Some of those kids will be old enough and perceptive enough to ask themselves why their father's interest in mounting an armed insurrection of federal land is more important than spending time with their daughters and sons.



Ford_Prefect

(7,865 posts)
28. If Ammon had enough to buy a new 5,000 sq ft house in June 2015 why is he crying poor now?
Sun Jan 10, 2016, 11:26 PM
Jan 2016

Or is that more snake oil? The level of cognitive dissonance grows by the hour as does the depth of the manure.

Ammon Bundy owns house in Emmett

Jan 6, 2016

EMMETT — One of the leaders of the occupation of a federal building in Burns, Oregon, has ties to Emmett.

Ammon and Lisa Bundy have a residence in Emmett, according to the Emmett Messenger-Index. The house on South Slope Road is 5,102 square feet on 4.89 acres. It has an apple orchard and was built in 2005. They purchased it June 2015, Gem County Assessor Rick Johnston told the Messenger-Index.

http://www.idahopress.com/members/ammon-bundy-owns-house-in-emmett/article_e85ecca1-d9f2-5e64-9283-1cc5532f4442.html

Ford_Prefect

(7,865 posts)
44. That's my point. I don't think they are there to do what they claim.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jan 2016

Aside from living in an altered state wherein it is common comment to warn people that you will shoot them if you think they threaten you...
More and more I get the impression they are up to something else, possibly with direction or help from 3rd parties that are using this sideshow as they have others like it to drive the fear and gun agenda. I don't see it working the way the Bundy brigade say it will, nor does anyone with any sense.

One reason for the FBI to hold back would be to find the connections I have alluded to above. Possible but not likely? I'm sure the attempt to avoid violence is real on the part of all concerned. However unless Bundy was prepared to go to jail prior to it this action makes no sense to do. Leaving aside the apparent mental dysfunction and disregard for law enforcement for the sake of argument what else can they expect to achieve?

I have met some of these guys, though not this batch, in south western Montana. They really do seem to live in their heads about the law. In their minds the law does not work therefore it can be disregarded as if it only applied to other lesser beings. I have also seen up close the pseudo cowboys with their empowering macho weapons cult. They never go anywhere without being armed: grocery store, laundromat, church (I strongly suspect), Junior High football games. They most resemble the mob guys I recall from Philadelphia: in a world of their own controlled by their own rules...and a don't-piss-me-off-it's-not-healthy attitude.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
45. Makes me wonder
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 01:48 AM
Jan 2016

as well if their wives have put in for big life insurance policies on their dumbnut other half before the start of all this.

Ford_Prefect

(7,865 posts)
46. Doubtful. I don't get the feeling this bunch was doing that kind of planning.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:25 AM
Jan 2016

However I am no expert that I could profile what they may think or do.

I'm just getting the feeling that there is some kind of more and less to what is going on out there. It is very difficult to decide just where the boundaries of reality lie in this setting. After all it seemed that there would be some kind of arrests and the like after the Bundy Ranch situation. You'd think there would at least be action by federal marshals for drawn weapons aimed at BLM officers, not to mention warrants to impound the Bundy cattle and personal property in lieu of fees owed. If a landlord in my town can do it certainly the Feds can.

But the "Bundy brigade" has been active during the last year in other locations. We've been told by the MSM that they don't have a plan just a kind of murky self-defined anti-federal manifesto. I wonder just how much they may be coordinated by some less visible 3rd party with other agendas. The Koch brothers come to mind.

I also wonder just how far the Feds and FBI have decided to hold back on the Bundy gang and what their agenda is, if they have one that is. They truly seemed surprised by the Pacific Patriots Network showing up at the airport in Burns, which points to a very weak sense of whats going on, or else misdirection from within.

I do not want to see this become Ruby Ridge II, or anything like it. I can't help thinking there is more going on though, that this is being staged for the press somehow, especially after Republican state lawmakers met with Bundy seemingly validating the takeover.

FreedomRain

(413 posts)
50. would not work out
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jan 2016

Most LI policies probably have a disclaimer about dying while in commission of a felony

Chemisse

(30,802 posts)
68. Good point! Those sending in supplies should be charged with being accessories.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe the feds are just sitting there collecting names, compiling a list of the militia folk for later prosecution. I doubt it though.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
38. No doubt by now the militia men need a diaper change.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 12:08 AM
Jan 2016

Send huggies so their little asses don't get chapped! Maybe some pacifiers too.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
47. Sleeping bags?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 02:45 AM
Jan 2016

Who forgot to pack the sleeping bags? Shouldn't that be at the top of the list when you're planning a hostile takeover?

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
51. Efforts should be made post haste
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:14 AM
Jan 2016

to send some David Bowie recordings out to the "militia."

There's a chance that they forgot to pack any of his CDs, and it would be a shame if they didn't have some Bowie going, 24-7.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
75. That stuff is disgusting.
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jan 2016

But it certainly fits here. These big bad men demanding French Vanilla creamer. Figures.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
56. It wouldn't be surprising
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jan 2016

Last edited Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

if FBI, does an airdrop of supplies, generator, and fuel. We don't want these ranchers to become uncomfortable or inconvenienced.

The siege could be ended with a sound canon (LRAD) device.


L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
59. CROW & COYOTE discuss the BurnsPaiute / BundyBoy affair
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 11:57 AM
Jan 2016

SoundCloud
CROW & COYOTE discuss the BurnsPaiute / BundyBoy affair


POLITICAL SATIRE and laughter are, for me, a way of dissipating all the bad energy
generated -- the bad karma / confused thinking / 2nd-rate commercial reporting -- when we can't avoid all the tragic-comic insanity of the world, and the near-manic, non-stop news reporting on all the insanity of the world, a d i n f i n i t u m . . .

When the root of a problem is VIOLENCE, and the near universal ignorance of the destructive, divisive nature of thought which is its cause, and we are flooded with sounds and images stuck in yet another tight ball of the, well, Devil's Rope of the culture of force, we must take great care to get back up to the clearer, higher ground of real dialogue and serious, sustained, peaceful reflection.

"It's Nature's way....I tell you!" says CROW.



louis-t

(23,263 posts)
79. Takers, they are. How long will they live off of donations?
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

Cigarettes? Their supporters are buying them cigarettes? Send a case of Jack Daniels while yer at it.

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