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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:16 AM Jan 2016

New Navy Leader: Nukes 'Foundational To Our Survival'

Source: Associated Press

By Robert Burns, The Associated Press 3:01 p.m. EST January 5, 2016
John Richardson

(Photo: Jacquelyn Martin/AP)
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WASHINGTON — In his blueprint for a stronger Navy, the sea service's new top boss, Adm. John M. Richardson, is blunt about what he thinks matters most: nuclear punch.

Battling terrorists is today's problem, but in looking toward a farther horizon, Richardson wants a Navy built to counter unpredictable future threats from other countries. No. 1 on his list is a new fleet of nuclear-armed submarines, known as "boomers," that prowl the oceans as the quiet centerpiece of the nation's nuclear force. The Navy plans to replace the current fleet of 14 Ohio-class boomers, which began service as early as 1981, with 12 next-generation subs.

"This is foundational to our survival as a nation," Richardson writes in what he calls his design for the future, released Tuesday.

It also is a gigantic investment, estimated at $100 billion. Even one of the project's biggest supporters, Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., calls the cost "staggering." And it happens to be just one of three efforts by the Pentagon to modernize the U.S. nuclear "triad" — new long-range bomber aircraft, new or upgraded land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles and new missile-toting submarines. The price tag for these, plus related upgrades and replacements, is likely to approach $348 billion by 2024, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

Read more: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2016/01/05/new-navy-leader-nukes-foundational-to-our-survival/78313294/

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New Navy Leader: Nukes 'Foundational To Our Survival' (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2016 OP
Ummm, no they are not! Asshole! They are ruinous to the 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #1
You speak for so many of us, without a doubt. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #2
As do you!! So glad you agree with us 7wo7rees Jan 2016 #3
+100000000000000000000000000000000 trillion Jan 2016 #6
Why do you think there has not been a 3rd world war? Odin2005 Jan 2016 #23
Well, maybe he needs to worry first about finding guys who can drive those things without MADem Jan 2016 #4
$348 billion to the Pentagon with taxpayer dollars Unknown Beatle Jan 2016 #5
I must disagree Sherman A1 Jan 2016 #7
That is way way way in the future... TipTok Jan 2016 #11
I would hope not Sherman A1 Jan 2016 #14
Worldwide nuclear dearmament? TipTok Jan 2016 #15
THIS IS WHY ISIS HATE US; POOR HEALTH CARE; POOR SCHOOLS; POOR INFRASTRUCTURE... Gregorian Jan 2016 #8
I would rather die unarmed and happy than armed and "safe". Gregorian Jan 2016 #9
And I thought it was - AIR - WATER -FOOD SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #10
Because of his boomers, there's no funds for any of those luxuries. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #13
Veterans For Peace shares . . FairWinds Jan 2016 #12
An appropriate place to post this ... Nihil Jan 2016 #16
Seems we're not the only nation who feels fear and need nukes. Funny how that works. In fact, we libdem4life Jan 2016 #17
sad duplex Jan 2016 #18
To be polite. He's an idiot. PFunk1 Jan 2016 #19
Think of all the Healthcare, Education, and Shelter for the Poor that $348 BILLION could buy groundloop Jan 2016 #20
actually in todays world rafeh1 Jan 2016 #21
Nukes are the ONLY reason there has not been a World War III. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #22

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
23. Why do you think there has not been a 3rd world war?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:37 PM
Jan 2016

Because all the great powers know that such a war would turn nuclear. MAD is the best peacekeeper in the world.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Well, maybe he needs to worry first about finding guys who can drive those things without
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:27 AM
Jan 2016

running 'em aground....


http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/01/05/navy-captain-relieved-duty.html

This isn't really LBN, though. I won't alert but maybe you should self delete and put it in GD or the National Security group.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
5. $348 billion to the Pentagon with taxpayer dollars
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 05:10 AM
Jan 2016

but nothing to relieve the homeless problem or feeding hungry children.

The Pentagon is missing (steals) $8.5 trillion and they still want more of our money to build their war toys.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. I must disagree
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 06:26 AM
Jan 2016

if he missed that flexibility is the center piece of the Navy's mission and it's survival, then he is yet another who has the all answers, but seems to have missed the question.

In the short term perhaps these submarines may be necessary, but we ultimately need to eliminate all nuclear weapons.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
15. Worldwide nuclear dearmament?
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jan 2016

We haven't scratched the surface...

To say nothing of getting down into the bedrock...

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
8. THIS IS WHY ISIS HATE US; POOR HEALTH CARE; POOR SCHOOLS; POOR INFRASTRUCTURE...
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jan 2016

Get rid of these men and America will begin to heal.

This notion of safety is utter bullshit. It's hype to keep you giving them a quarter of your paycheck.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
9. I would rather die unarmed and happy than armed and "safe".
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jan 2016

These pentagon shitheads are ruining your life, in case you didn't know.

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
10. And I thought it was - AIR - WATER -FOOD
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jan 2016

he can have his bomb - I want Clean air and water and much much better food

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
12. Veterans For Peace shares . .
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

the skepticism expressed here.

This summer our own navy (the feisty little Golden Rule)
will be standing up against nuclear weapons in the
Pacific Northwest.

http://www.vfpgoldenruleproject.org/

And we are looking for crew !!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
17. Seems we're not the only nation who feels fear and need nukes. Funny how that works. In fact, we
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jan 2016

might consider nuking countries who are equally fearful.

duplex

(32 posts)
18. sad
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

I grew up in a town called Cheyenne, which houses a main component of the US nuclear missile command. I (along with my friends) all assumed we would die in a nuclear war before ever growing up due to all the rhetoric and fear that this part of the cold war brought. It's shameful that we still cower underneath this deadly umbrella that offers not defense but the destruction of all that we hold dear. It's too late to put this genie back in the bottle, but what a horrible legacy we leave to our children by perpetuating it.

PFunk1

(185 posts)
19. To be polite. He's an idiot.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jan 2016

Nukes may have been a combat necessary when their were a few of them (like say late 40's early 50). But deploying nukes (or any sort of major NBC weaponry) now of today's battlefield means the side that first does so basically has lost the war.

Just my opinion. Take is as you may.

groundloop

(11,510 posts)
20. Think of all the Healthcare, Education, and Shelter for the Poor that $348 BILLION could buy
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

It's a fucking crime to keep pouring money into the military industrial complex out of these misplaced fears and the fear-mongering by assholes such as Adm. Richardson. Our money would be so much better spent improving the lives of our citizens on things such as food and shelter for the needy, better K-12 education, lower/free college tuition, and of course healthcare for all.

rafeh1

(385 posts)
21. actually in todays world
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

power comes from 3 things.
1. economy
2. economy
3. economy

If the econmoy is trash the world will pass by you. If the economy is good then it pays for all sort of toys

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
22. Nukes are the ONLY reason there has not been a World War III.
Wed Jan 6, 2016, 09:36 PM
Jan 2016

The naive anti-nuke people seem to not understand this, are in denial about it, or are too blinded by their own ideology to care.

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