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Mon May 21, 2012, 10:03 AM

Grover Norquist: Trying To Stop Billionaires From Dodging Taxes Makes You A Nazi

Source: ThinkProgress

After Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin avoided some $67 million in taxes by renouncing his American citizenship shortly before the company made its initial public offering, Sens. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Bob Casey (D-PA) introduced the “Ex-Patriot” Act. The bill would make former citizens subject to the capital gains tax on U.S. investments and bar those who renounce citizenship for tax purposes from reentering the country.


To American for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, Schumer and Casey’s effort is akin to Nazism or South African apartheid, as The Hill reports:

“I think Schumer can probably find the legislation to do this. It existed in Germany in the 1930s and Rhodesia in the ’70s and in South Africa as well,” said Norquist. “He probably just plagiarized it and translated it from the original German.”

The Nazis infamously implemented a departure tax on Jews who tried to flee Germany before World War II. Schumer is Jewish.


Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/05/21/487465/norquist-billionaire-taxes-nazis/



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Reply Grover Norquist: Trying To Stop Billionaires From Dodging Taxes Makes You A Nazi (Original post)
Galraedia May 2012 OP
LiberalFighter May 2012 #1
Iliyah May 2012 #2
Suji to Seoul May 2012 #3
awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #41
Suji to Seoul May 2012 #42
Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #4
Phlem May 2012 #8
FiveGoodMen May 2012 #13
harun May 2012 #16
FiveGoodMen May 2012 #17
Recursion May 2012 #18
Phlem May 2012 #34
BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #25
freshwest May 2012 #36
leftynyc May 2012 #5
freshwest May 2012 #6
L0oniX May 2012 #7
lonestarnot May 2012 #35
freshwest May 2012 #37
lonestarnot May 2012 #43
patrice May 2012 #9
patrice May 2012 #10
freshwest May 2012 #44
patrice May 2012 #46
freshwest May 2012 #47
patrice May 2012 #48
patrice May 2012 #11
KamaAina May 2012 #12
Dulcinea May 2012 #14
freshwest May 2012 #15
DonCoquixote May 2012 #19
The Magistrate May 2012 #20
Hubert Flottz May 2012 #21
kiranon May 2012 #22
BlancheSplanchnik May 2012 #23
xtraxritical May 2012 #33
Ikonoklast May 2012 #45
freshwest May 2012 #38
nobodyspecial May 2012 #24
Jack Rabbit May 2012 #26
freshwest May 2012 #39
provis99 May 2012 #27
fascisthunter May 2012 #28
freshwest May 2012 #40
may3rd May 2012 #29
sarcasmo May 2012 #30
icarusxat May 2012 #31
Stuart G May 2012 #32

Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 10:07 AM

1. Turn it back on Norquist

He should be asked how much of his income is taxed and how much is not taxed. As well as how much is tax at each rate.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 10:38 AM

2. Everytime these assholes

speak there should be people there with mirrors, put them up in front of them because they are exactly what they preach. He is the nazi in the room, no doubt about it.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 10:40 AM

3. Anyone named Grover I can't take seriously anymore. Just like Laffer.

 

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #3)

Tue May 22, 2012, 08:56 AM

41. I like Grover

 



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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #41)

Tue May 22, 2012, 09:20 AM

42. On Sesame Street, I can take over seriously

 

on F Street, I can't seem to say his name without chuckling.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 10:46 AM

4. Godwin's law has been invoked. Thread over.

 

Norquist automatically lost the argument the minute he mentioned the word "Nazi".

See Godwin's law

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #4)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:12 AM

8. Your serious with Godwin's law?

Nail him on the facts instead of invoking this moronic lame rule.

Godwin's law is a farce.

-p

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Response to Phlem (Reply #8)

Mon May 21, 2012, 12:53 PM

13. "Godwin's law is a farce." -- Amen to that!

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #13)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:10 PM

16. Nazi

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Response to harun (Reply #16)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:20 PM

17. Hey! You can't say that!

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #4)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:31 PM

18. Godwin's law is simply that the probability of someone making the comparison...

...approaches 1 as the discussion continues. The notion that that "ends" or "loses" the discussion is a later and non-canonical addition.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #18)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:03 PM

34. I know the rule and understand the

definition, it's the people that invoke it that chaps my hide.....

.......put an effort into the conversation at least.

-p

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Response to Woody Woodpecker (Reply #4)

Mon May 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

25. Not "thread over" (no one in this thread is pulling the Nazi card) It's *Grover* who went to

reductio ad Hitlerum, and thus, should be OVER!!


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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #25)

Tue May 22, 2012, 12:59 AM

36. LOL@'Reductio Ad Hitlerum, and thus, should be OVER!! ' IF ONLY HE WAS...


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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:00 AM

5. By all means, Grover

 

continue to compare the Jewish Senator Schumer to the nazis....that'll garner so much of the Jewish vote that repubicans can't quite figure out doesn't come their way. They should stop wondering why that is when you give someone like grover the microphone.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:01 AM

6. Okay. Remind him how the Nazis came for the disabled first. Same killing system he's pushing.

Then... alright, I'm losing my temper again.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #6)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:11 AM

7. +1

 

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Response to freshwest (Reply #6)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:29 PM

35. Whoop there it is!

 

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Response to lonestarnot (Reply #35)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:05 AM

37. Outted himself good, didn't he? Freud shouldn't have left that banana peel on the floor.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #37)

Tue May 22, 2012, 11:03 AM

43. Yes he did.

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:22 AM

9. If "le$$ $peech" is qualitatively the same as "more $peech", which is what Norquist implies

here, why should "more" be legally protected, when the "same" thing can be done with less money? . . . at least according to Norquist.

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Response to patrice (Reply #9)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:25 AM

10. In short, he's pretending an extremely uneven playing field isn't uneven and that even if it were

uneven, that would be insignificant to the value that he pretends to be supporting.

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Response to patrice (Reply #10)

Tue May 22, 2012, 11:11 AM

44. That reminds me of Bill Maher's False Equivalency video. Pardon me if you've seen it before:



He gives a good examples of how unequal the playing field is.

We're approaching Flat Earth fall off the edge uneven...

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Response to freshwest (Reply #44)

Tue May 22, 2012, 12:17 PM

46. Good stuff, that! Been a while since I've seen it. Thanks!! Still trying to think of

how to say what I'm trying to say in this thread more clearly.

It's about similarities and differences between things, more precisely, how exactly are they similar and how exactly are the different and what are the consequences of those exact similarities and exact differences upon one another, separately as similarities and separately as differences (i.e. similarities compared to similarities and differences compared to differences) and then together, similarities compared to differences - in short all of the permutations of similarities and differences in the traits of the phenomena we are talking about, which we can't know directly, but can at least infer hypothetically to some extent from the systems we are talking about.

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Response to patrice (Reply #46)

Tue May 22, 2012, 12:41 PM

47. Break that down into paragraphs and I'm there, maybe. I realize we must come to know our choices...

That there is good and evil in each of us; that they are part of each person's make up; and we need them in balance. They are part of a whole that we cannot escape.

Even the 1% that we like to hiss at, has performed valuable functions that created our lives, or at least we live our lives within their creation. Could it have been different?

Yes, I think it could have and will be done differently, no matter what either group wants.

OTOH, you may be joking with me?

Which is okay. Have a great week.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #47)

Tue May 22, 2012, 04:47 PM

48. What you said is a different version ofwhat I'm thinking. We lose waaaay too much humanity to these

over-simplified categories that we impose, often by force of one type or another, on others. What we lose matters, even when we are "right". And even if there is a more or less immediate solution anyway, what is lost to oversimplification can very very likely affect the future.

I'm not very good at jokes. What I said earlier was a complicated way of describing what a person might do to actually get to know someone/anyone else, or an idea, or a place, or anything. Parroting oversimplified labels, acquired from here or there, for stuff is not understanding; that takes experience and the willingness to question and one of the salient traits of experience of a person/place/thing/idea or event is how it is similar:different to/from any other person/place/thing/idea or event. Those are useful questions that help us to take a solid stand when we need to against the likes of Norquist. But mostly it seems people only process differences or differences matter waaaaaaaaay more than similarities, or anything else, so their critical rhetoric looses something powerful, i.e. the similarities.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 11:37 AM

11. He saying there are NO emergent properties in these systems, other than the ones that HE SAYS there

are.

"There is no cake but Grover Norquist cake. And let them eat cake."

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 12:49 PM

12. You want to see a Nazi, Grover? No soup for you!

 

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 12:58 PM

14. Who died & left him king?

Why does this no-talent loser have so much power, anyway?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:09 PM

15. Privatization is the New Apartheid. Some may have forgotten the pure evil that is Nordquist:

Nordquist protege's push for charter school privatization plan in Southern California worries educators

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/K_Street_pushes_charter_school_plan_0125.html

The Tendency to Privatize

http://monthlyreview.org/2003/03/01/the-tendency-to-privatize

There is much, much worse that he has done:


Grover Norquist...

http://www.channelingreality.com/Cards/grover_norquist-1.htm

http://www.channelingreality.com/Cards/grover_norquist%20-%202.htm

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 01:40 PM

19. Here is a question

Why do the Zionists support the GOP when Grover Norquist, whose wife is a Palestinian, is one of the more vocal anti Israel voices?

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/01/anti-israel-pro-jihad-grover-norquist-wants-anti-israel-ron-paul-paul-speak-at-convention.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/561786/posts

Granted, I dislike Zionism myself, but I would love to see the heads of people like Eric Cantor and Bloomberg pop when they realize who it is they bow to

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #19)

Mon May 21, 2012, 02:03 PM

20. Indeed, Sir: Norquist Actually Is A Terrorist Supporter, An Open Agent Of Jihad

It is amply documented in the Congressional Record.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 02:08 PM

21. I gave you a rec. for your Evil Idiots picture!

Looks like Mitch and the Big Boner have the bleeding piles! I hope so.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 03:16 PM

22. Classic example of projection. Accuse other of what you are or wish to be. n/t

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 03:25 PM

23. I rec'd and shared on FB with this comment:

Let's see---a billionaire tax cheat tries to get out of his responsibility by renouncing citizenship. Democratic Senators call him on it, and a Repub, famous for his efforts to protect the "stealing rights" of republican billionaires, pulls the Nazi card? Wow. That's some twisted crap. I say, BRAVO and THANKS to Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Bob Casey (D-PA)

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #23)

Mon May 21, 2012, 09:47 PM

33. Is that dog pomeranian?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #33)

Tue May 22, 2012, 11:27 AM

45. Damn furry furriners takin' Amurkin dog's jobs!

I want to see his papers!






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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #23)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:27 AM

38. +1,000

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 03:30 PM

24. He is an evil, evil man

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 04:39 PM

26. Jack Rabbit: Helping the wealthy avoid taxes makes you a royalist

Norquist, and Republicans in general, believe some people are just better than others and deserve a greater share of the boons of society that is out of proportion to their contribution to creating that wealth. They can live in castles and collect rent from starving peasants who, in their self-defined world view, don't matter.

The French invented the guillotine for people like that.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #26)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:28 AM

39. Plus a million.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 07:00 PM

27. so Jewish-American Chuck Schumer is a Nazi?

 

It amuses me when a Nazi like Norquist goes around calling Jewish people Nazis.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 07:15 PM

28. the man who aligns himself with nazi views and their propaganda techniques

 

ironic

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #28)

Tue May 22, 2012, 01:30 AM

40. Pre-emptive strikes R them, says my LOLZ translator.

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 08:19 PM

29. “Ex-Patriot” Act

 

this will surely start the stampede of the neo green card holders

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 08:35 PM

30. This tells me Grover knows he is not paying his fair share. Where is the cookie monster

when you need him?

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 08:38 PM

31. culture note: the finger

the gesture Grover is making in the above photo is the German equivalent of flipping the bird

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Response to Galraedia (Original post)

Mon May 21, 2012, 08:51 PM

32. When you call a Jewish person a Nazi, it is probably the worst thing you can call him/her.

Norquest did this on purpose..or he is utterly, and completely stupid..
You tell me which is it?

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