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still_one

(92,116 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:10 PM Oct 2015

Joe Biden Reveals He Wavered Until The Very End On Whether To Run For President

Source: Huffington Post/AP

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Joe Biden emphasized that family, not politics, loomed large in his decision not to pursue a third presidential run.

In an interview on CBS's "60 Minutes" on Sunday, he noted that the grief over the death of his son Beau earlier this year continues to affect him and his family.

"It doesn't follow schedules of primaries and caucuses and contributors and the like. Everybody grieves at a different pace," he said. "What I struggled with was whether or not I could emotionally handle this in a way that when I thought of Beau, it wasn't a problem."

...

"Biden also denied reports that in his last days, Beau had urged his father to run, calling the notion "Hollywood-esque."

"Nothing like that ever, ever happened," he said."

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"Suggesting that politics only played a secondary role in his decision, Biden laughed off rumors that he harbors tensions toward Hillary Clinton, denying he ever doubted her viability as the Democratic presidential front-runner."

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""These must be the same guys who knew I was going to run!" he joked, referring to speculation that he would run. "That's never been the case. Go back and find anybody who says for the four years we worked together, Hillary and I weren't friends... Hillary and I get along together. The only reason to run is because I still think I could do a better job than anybody else could do. That's the reason to run. I wouldn't run against Hillary."

He insisted that he was not jabbing Clinton when he commented earlier this week that "we should look at Republicans as our enemies." Clinton had called the GOP "enemies" during the last Democratic debate.

"That was a reference to Washington," he clarified."



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-president-60-minutes_562d5164e4b0ec0a3894d630



So what have we learned from this?


1. Beau Biden did not make a death bed request for Joe to run.

2. VP Biden was not addressing HRC in his I'm not running speech.

3. VP Biden and HRC are friends.

4. VP Biden never considered running as a backup plan in case HRC would lose. His desire to run would only be based on his opinion that he would be best for the job.

5. HRC was clearly joking when she referenced Republicans as the enemy.

but probably the most important thing to be learned from this is that the MSM doesn't know bupkis.

They report rumors and innuendos as news, and go out of their way to mislead.

That some still seem to fall for such things at a words notice, without a healthy bit of skepticism, is unfortunate



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Joe Biden Reveals He Wavered Until The Very End On Whether To Run For President (Original Post) still_one Oct 2015 OP
I'm sorry but DURHAM D Oct 2015 #1
The source of who talked with Dowd is unknown. still_one Oct 2015 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #3
not at the NY Times...... oh, never mind still_one Oct 2015 #8
Maybe you don't remember Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #10
I was being sarcastic. I should have made it clear still_one Oct 2015 #14
I wondered what the "never mind" was. Now I got it! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #16
Sorry about that, thanks still_one Oct 2015 #18
I'm willing to leave it alone. murielm99 Oct 2015 #4
He would have been a strong #3. fbc Oct 2015 #5
All five of "what we have learned" is false former9thward Oct 2015 #6
Got proof of that? Kingofalldems Oct 2015 #13
Got proof of what is in Clinton's head? former9thward Oct 2015 #15
I love Joe. No buts about it. longship Oct 2015 #7
" " " " n/t MBS Oct 2015 #17
With all due respect to VP Biden Blasphemer Oct 2015 #9
there are some things you have to "let go" and this is one of them... CTyankee Oct 2015 #11
6. dowd is an oppotunistic liar. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #12

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
1. I'm sorry but
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:13 PM
Oct 2015

since he personally called Maureen Dowd and she wrote the Beau story I don't believe him.

Response to still_one (Reply #2)

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
10. Maybe you don't remember
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:29 PM
Oct 2015

Jayson Thomas Blair (born March 23, 1976) is an American journalist formerly with The New York Times. He resigned from the newspaper in May 2003 in the wake of the discovery of plagiarism and fabrication in his stories.

murielm99

(30,730 posts)
4. I'm willing to leave it alone.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:37 AM
Oct 2015

He left the record the way he wants it. He is putting his family first.

Let him stay with his family and let them heal together. He has served long and well.

former9thward

(31,965 posts)
6. All five of "what we have learned" is false
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015

He was clearly addressing HC in his speech and Clinton was not joking at all where she compared Republicans to Iranians.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. I love Joe. No buts about it.
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:27 AM
Oct 2015

He is a real dream VEEP. Obama chose well.

The guy is authentic. Let him go in peace. He has certainly earned that respect. Again, he has been an absolutely awesome Vice President, maybe the best in my lifetime, which goes back to Truman.

Obama and Biden have been a true tag team.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
9. With all due respect to VP Biden
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:59 AM
Oct 2015

This all sounds like spin. And, it makes sense for him to do so in the wake of his decision but I am pretty sure the story would be different had he decided to run.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
11. there are some things you have to "let go" and this is one of them...
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:12 PM
Oct 2015

I have had to "let go" of some serious issues in my life with people and I know whereof I speak. There is a point that you reach and no one can go forward and it is just best to let it be what it is.

I think Joe Biden will be happier if we let go of this. It is just what it is. Let us be glad that he has made his peace.

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