Poll finds Clinton, Sanders in dead heat in N.H.

[brooklynite]

Source: Boston Globe

After a commanding performance in this week’s Democratic presidential debate, Hillary Clinton reclaimed some of the ground she’d lost to Senator Bernie Sanders over the summer, leaving the two candidates in a statistical dead heat in New Hampshire, a Suffolk University/Boston Globe poll found.

The survey, conducted Wednesday and Thursday, showed Clinton pulling ahead of Sanders, 37 percent to 35 percent. The poll of 500 likely voters in the Democratic primary had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.

Among voters who watched the debate, Clinton opened up a 5-point lead over Sanders. And despite a pushback from Sanders’ fervid supporters who thought his strong debate performance was being overlooked by the media, poll respondents overwhelmingly agreed that Clinton won the debate.

Fifty-four percent of respondents said they thought Clinton won the debate to 24 percent for Sanders.



Read more: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/10/16/clinton-sanders-tied/5uI3lKwEfib4uifxrOlkPI/story.html

[Agnosticsherbet]

2. She did what she needed to do at the debate.

[BeyondGeography]

3. IOW, nice guys finish last

[upaloopa]

5. Nice women finish first

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

11. There is my very point - thank you.

You should be ashamed of yourself, unless you forgot the sarcasm thingy. What a sexist comment! She is a woman, I'll give her that.

[still_one]

13. Why would that be sexist, and the post it was responding to was NOT sexist?

"nice guys finish last"

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

18. "nice guys finish last" is a common expression which is usually meant without regards to gender.

At least that's my opinion.

[still_one]

27. Ok

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. That's awfully damn nice of you s_o! Sometimes you just have to move on.

And since we are all democrats, and will support 100% the party nominee - it behooves us to be at minimum, civil to each other, and hopefully we can even support each other even when we side with a different candidate.

[still_one]

44. I understand your point, we just don't see eye to eye on it, and that's ok

I have no doubt we will agree on many more things then disagree on them

Have a nice evening

[upaloopa]

4. I am getting excited about watching Hillary

and the Benghazi committee.
I am sure the repubs know about how strong she was in the debates.
My guess is they won't dare try to trash talk her knowing the whole world knows the are trying to hurt her campaign.

[Scootaloo]

6. Oh, so now clinton supporters care what New Hampshire thinks?

'Cause when sanders was in his lead there, you guys were relentlessly shitcanning the state for being too northeastern, too white, too rural, too wishy-washy. it didn't matter, because Vermont was right next door, and it wasn't reflective of the nation, and sanders supporters liking the result proved we're all white supremacists (white supremacists are known for their fondness of liberal Jews, I suppose?)

But a poll gives clinton 2 points and suddenly New Hampshire matters. Fascinating!

[brooklynite]

8. I don't think it matters any more or less than it did before...

But all other things being equal it suggests that Clinton has stopped dropping and Sanders has stopped gaining.

[Scootaloo]

9. Obviously you do think it matters, as well... here you are.

And it didn't matter last week.

[brooklynite]

10. Point to a post where I said it didn't matter...

Back in the early days, I said I gave Sanders a 40% chance of winning NH, 25% chance of winning IA and 10% chance of winning SC.

[LannyDeVaney]

32. LOL at the gnashing of teeth ...

Keep your echo chamber circle jerk in the GD forum, thanks.

[Scootaloo]

35. Hard to gnash teeth AND laugh.

I think it's hilarious how first new Hampshire doesn't count, and it's immoral and wrong and racist that it gets an early primary, but now, Clinton has a 2-point lead, and suddenly New Hampshire is the best.

[onehandle]

7. POTUS

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[Elmer S. E. Dump]

12. That will be the final nail in the coffin of US democracy.

And I am NOT being melodramatic.

[still_one]

14. yes you are. This country was almost destroyed by a civil war, went through a Great Depression,

the 1918 influenza outbreak, two world wars, women's suffrage, the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, etc.

Yes you are being melodramatic

[cprise]

17. The feds can't even set foot in a Connecticut-sized patch of NV

and there are white supremacists buying assault rifles like crazy and showing up at BLM protests with them.

And there's no more resource-rich territory to expand into.

We're not working as a country anymore; We're just an invasion machine that international corporations use to topple unfriendly regimes.

[enid602]

36. opinion

In your opinion, is this due to Democratic Party actions, or Republican?

[cprise]

38. Neocons form bi-partisan organization with Democrats.....

because their Republican host is dying:

“I feel comfortable with her (Clinton) on foreign policy,” Mr. Kagan said, adding that the next step after Mr. Obama’s more realist approach “could theoretically be whatever Hillary brings to the table” if elected president. “If she pursues a policy which we think she will pursue,” he added, “it’s something that might have been called neocon, but clearly her supporters are not going to call it that; they are going to call it something else.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/16/us/politics/historians-critique-of-obama-foreign-policy-is-brought-alive-by-events-in-iraq.html

Its right there, from one of the architects of long-term plans to overthrow a list of Middle Eastern governments.

We could always enact a free-trade agreement or three to help make things better, right?

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A person like Hillary structurally RIGS the system to undermine the world that working-class people live in. I honestly think she can't help it.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

19. You don't understand the gravity of the situation. No HRC supporters do, apparently.

[Beacool]

16. Yes, you are being melodramatic and wrong too.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

20. Nope.

[Beacool]

21. Your assertion is not valid.

Even if a Republican were to win in 2016 (goodness forbid), it wouldn't be the end of democracy. In four years you still would get to vote for someone else.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

22. Voting=Democracy? Ask the people in Iran.

[cprise]

39. We'll remember that when "wasting" our votes.

A lot of us are Independent now. You and the party cannot ignore us anymore.

[LannyDeVaney]

33. Nope, not melodramatic at all ...

[cprise]

15. See what lying gets you...

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/democratic-debate-fact-check/index.html

They dinged Sanders for using EPI stats instead of official figures. I'm OK with that.

Hillary has a pile of misleading statements, including the one she made about Bernie supporting the NRA.

In other news, Bernie is ahead by 2% in Maine.

[SmittynMo]

23. It's all bullshit

Think about it. How does one go from a +14 to a -2 in that short of time, unless something drastically changed in the debate. Did anyone witness something drastic? I certainly didn't. Sound fishy to you? Some say she won. Some say he won. It don't matter, because I know in my heart who the real winner was.

And CNN should be put to shame for hiding numbers and deleting comments. Wait..... CNN contributes big time to the Clinton campaign. Sound fishy to you? Now you see what an oligarchy can do.

[Plucketeer]

26. Right On, Smitty! nt

[cprise]

40. The drastic thing was all the MSM shouting Hillary Won!

before those new polls were taken.

I think the effect will wear off over time. Hopefully people are developing a resistance to corporate derangement.

[William769]

24. But it wasn't a internet poll so it doesn't count.

They wanted a debate so Sanders could show who he is.

I guess the old saying is true, be careful what you ask for.

[riversedge]

29. um. I ask for this....

The 2016 winning ticket:

[Plucketeer]

25. Hillary's garnered MORE kisses from the commercial media and their pundits

than have ever been bestowed on the back of Queen Elizabeth's hand. Only they were applied somewhere other than HRC's hand.

I haven't looked, but with what I heard Tweetie saying to Sanders after the debate, I'm surprized he hasn't gotten shit-canned from MSNBC. And Lawrence O'Donnell - I hope he had access to some lip balm after he got done with Hillary. I'm holding fast for truth and integrity - but HRC's corporate financiers might prove me wrong!

[riversedge]

28. The winning Democratic 2016 ticket:

[oberliner]

41. Can they carry Texas?

If so, the GOP is toast.

[Thinkingabout]

30. Hillary had also been campaigning in NH, she is getting her issues on the table and voters are

Listening. She also had a great debate.

[squirecam]

34. enough infighting

This in-fighting gets us nowhere.

Unless you want Obama's hard work undone, not to mention the Supreme Court, further Middle East issues, immigration reform, etc...we need the presidency in 2016. That means either Hillary or Bernie. Everyone here should be prepared to give both of them your vote.

Tired of all the hatred coming from supporters of both sides.

[Keep-Left]

37. But...But...But...But

Bernie won


Like I said Hillary clearly won the debate. Any person that was being honest could see that.

[c588415]

42. <------ Hillary Clinton supporter in D house !

Way to go Hillary...Job well done

[MFrohike]

43. Heh

So, this poll has her ahead, the other three have Sanders ahead, and none of the polls have an adequate number of people to draw a useful conclusion. Welcome to Bizarro election world, where multimillion-dollar polls have the same worth as that Reader's Digest poll back in 1936, but people still cite them as evidence of something.