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ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:05 PM Aug 2015

Clinton Campaign Shuts Down Black Lives Matter Protest

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Source: Common Dreams

After The New Republic on Tuesday preemptively reported that a small number of Black Lives Matter activists were on their way to a Hillary Clinton campaign stop in Keene, New Hampshire, the potential protest against the leading Democratic presidential candidate never took place because security at the event barred the group entry.

Instead of having the opportunity to confront Clinton in a public setting—such as those recently faced by candidate Bernie Sanders—the five activists from Massachusetts, including Black Lives Matter Boston founder Daunasia Yancey, were ushered into an overflow room to watch the event and later treated to a closed-door meeting with Clinton to which reporters were not allowed.

According to TNR:

When they arrived at today’s Clinton event, which focused on substance abuse and the heroin epidemic, after first sharing their talking points and questions exclusively with the New Republic, the activists found the entrances closed by U.S. Secret Service who said the venue was at capacity. Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors, who was in contact with the five activists, later told the New Republic that the activists were eventually let into an “overflow room.” Following the event, Clinton met with the group for about 15 minutes in a private meeting that they claim turned contentious at times, and featured Clinton giving unsolicited advice for the direction of the movement.

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Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/08/12/clinton-campaign-shuts-down-black-lives-matter-protest



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Clinton Campaign Shuts Down Black Lives Matter Protest (Original Post) ghostsinthemachine Aug 2015 OP
Headline doesn't match the facts. Metric System Aug 2015 #1
Not at all. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #8
This was all about the Secret Service Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #17
Welcome to Bernie Sanders' world. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #24
The Clinton team handled this well. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #2
WTF, are you even talking about? giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #5
WTF are you even complaining about? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #10
You & the silly bowwing bullshit? giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #20
The Clinton team* has been handling this all along leveymg Aug 2015 #30
Given the hysterical screaming, chaos, and theatrics in Seattle, cheapdate Aug 2015 #3
Kudos to the Hillary campaign eissa Aug 2015 #9
Well, sure...given the circumstances, cheapdate Aug 2015 #13
so citizens wearing t shirts supporting the blm movement are to be banned from rallys? questionseverything Aug 2015 #29
Looks like it went very well for them... giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #4
Yeah, you don't want an experienced politician suggesting how to be effective. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #12
Did it ever cross your mind that black people & other giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #18
Then they are indeed amateurs and YOU ARE AN AGEIST! BillZBubb Aug 2015 #22
Oh ffs, get over it. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #26
Look you ageist whiner, BillZBubb Aug 2015 #31
Thank you for trolling me properly. giftedgirl77 Aug 2015 #32
Good for them. Beacool Aug 2015 #6
With the considerable advantage of advance warning. Divernan Aug 2015 #16
Exactly. Beacool Aug 2015 #19
Thankfully Bernie figured it out too. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #27
No room! No room!.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #7
The headline and the premise of the article is totally false! George II Aug 2015 #11
Not so. The Secret Service would have kept them away from the podium. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #14
Yeah, the Secret Service Plucketeer Aug 2015 #21
for all we know passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #34
Bill's War on Drugs..and it's implications for PoC, especially Blacks - Where's the outrage? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #15
Well, the New Republic gave Clinton a nice heads up. blackspade Aug 2015 #23
Hillary has Secret Service protection. This would make them nervous. Laser102 Aug 2015 #25
+100000000000!! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #28
When are they going to start mimi85 Aug 2015 #33
Locking... DonViejo Aug 2015 #35

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
1. Headline doesn't match the facts.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:09 PM
Aug 2015
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
8. Not at all.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

Tommy2Tone

(1,307 posts)
17. This was all about the Secret Service
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:34 PM
Aug 2015

they close the doors once Ms Clinton entered the building..but hey never miss a chance to throw some dirt at Hillary.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
24. Welcome to Bernie Sanders' world. [n/t]
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. The Clinton team handled this well.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:10 PM
Aug 2015

She kept them off the podium and from hijacking the event. Then she met privately with them. Evidently, she didn't bow down for them in the meeting either.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
5. WTF, are you even talking about?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

You're right she didn't bow down or run away, her campaign did the intelligent thing & scheduled a meeting. HRC was also rightfully put in her place when she tried to shove her nose into how the Black Lives Matter movement should be handled.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
10. WTF are you even complaining about?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:26 PM
Aug 2015



"You're right she didn't bow down or run away, her campaign did the intelligent thing & scheduled a meeting"

See, you agreed with me!
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
20. You & the silly bowwing bullshit?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:37 PM
Aug 2015

I think both of them were smart in arranging the meeting which is what occurred according to the article.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
30. The Clinton team* has been handling this all along
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:00 PM
Aug 2015

And, has been aware of BLMs intentions since long ago.

*Includes USSS detail and federal agency resources.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
3. Given the hysterical screaming, chaos, and theatrics in Seattle,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:13 PM
Aug 2015

every campaign will be extremely guarded toward access of BLM people at campaign events. How could it be otherwise?

eissa

(4,238 posts)
9. Kudos to the Hillary campaign
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:24 PM
Aug 2015

I'm a Bernie supporter myself, but give her credit for how she handled the disruptors.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
13. Well, sure...given the circumstances,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015

i.e. a contained venue, secret service working security and crowd control, prior knowledge of the potential for an incident, it worked out better for Hillary's campaign.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
29. so citizens wearing t shirts supporting the blm movement are to be banned from rallys?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:54 PM
Aug 2015

that is not right

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
4. Looks like it went very well for them...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:15 PM
Aug 2015

This is called coordinating, & I'm glad to see they put HRC in her place when she tried to tell them how to run the movement.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
12. Yeah, you don't want an experienced politician suggesting how to be effective.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:28 PM
Aug 2015

Just let a bunch of amateurs make ad hoc decisions! That'll work.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
18. Did it ever cross your mind that black people & other
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:35 PM
Aug 2015

minorities don't feel that the input of a 60 yr old white lady is really the right direction for them?

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
22. Then they are indeed amateurs and YOU ARE AN AGEIST!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:43 PM
Aug 2015

Shame on you for making her age an issue!!!!!

That 60 yr old white lady could be the next president of the United States. That 60 yr. old lady knows more about politics than all the others in that room put together. You can always learn something from those with real success and experience.

And if they didn't want to listen, they could have been polite in their refusal and not "put her in her place".

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
26. Oh ffs, get over it.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:48 PM
Aug 2015

Obviously they didn't straight up tell her to fuck off, they just told her to stay in her lane which obviously more people obviously need to start doing & not just to her but confused white folks in general.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
31. Look you ageist whiner,
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:01 PM
Aug 2015

I quoted exactly WHAT YOU CLAIMED HAPPENED. The only one confused here is you.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
32. Thank you for trolling me properly.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:04 PM
Aug 2015

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
6. Good for them.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

They hijacked Sanders' event. The Clinton campaign learned from that incident and handled the situation well.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
16. With the considerable advantage of advance warning.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
19. Exactly.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:36 PM
Aug 2015

The Sanders campaign did not expect what happened at his event. The Clinton campaign was forewarned by seeing what occurred at Sanders' event and acted accordingly.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
27. Thankfully Bernie figured it out too.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:50 PM
Aug 2015
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
7. No room! No room!....
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:20 PM
Aug 2015

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. The headline and the premise of the article is totally false!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:27 PM
Aug 2015

The protest was NOT "shut down", in fact had the five potential protesters shown up a few minutes earlier they would have gotten into the main room and done whatever they intended to do.

I seem to be using this term a lot around here these days at DU - that's the "inconvenient truth"!

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
14. Not so. The Secret Service would have kept them away from the podium.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
21. Yeah, the Secret Service
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:41 PM
Aug 2015

is your "inconvenient truth" here. Remember, they're not tagging along with Bernie yet. In spite of the SS's recent gaffs, they're quite a force for anyone to have to contend with if it comes to contention!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
34. for all we know
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:27 PM
Aug 2015

this might have been a beautifully choreographed event!

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
15. Bill's War on Drugs..and it's implications for PoC, especially Blacks - Where's the outrage?
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:30 PM
Aug 2015

From the article:

The group's remarks and questions varied a bit from the script they prepared, which focused on criminal justice policies Clinton had supported while her husband was president, but not in tone. "I asked specifically about her and her family's involvement in the War on Drugs at home and abroad, and the implications that has had on communities of color and especially black people in terms of white supremacist violence," Yancey told me in an interview after the meeting. "And I wanted to know how she felt about her involvement in those processes.”

Asked whether Clinton actually proposed policies in the meeting, Jones said, "Not that I recall, no. In fact, I know that she didn’t because she was projecting that what the Black Lives Matter movement needs to do is X,Y, and Z—to which we pushed back that it is not her place to tell the Black Lives Matter movement or black people what to do, and that the real work doesn’t lie in the victim-blaming that that implies. And that was a rift in the conversation."

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
23. Well, the New Republic gave Clinton a nice heads up.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:44 PM
Aug 2015

Interesting how the campaign is spinning the 'no media allowed' circumstance.
It looks like Clinton was looking for a BLM photo op and didn't get the protesters to bite.

Laser102

(816 posts)
25. Hillary has Secret Service protection. This would make them nervous.
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:45 PM
Aug 2015

I can imagine they were angry considering they wanted a Bernie moment under their belts. As for the unsolicited advice they were given, maybe what would help is if they came with the solutions to the problem and asked the democratic candidates for help in achieving them. Better than yelling and hijacking events, would be to have a plan to solve their problems. I can't imagine Bernie or Hillary not offering to help with THEIR solutions. These confrontations are doing nothing but upsetting the very people who can help them. Maybe Bernie needs some protections going forward. Nobody wants to stifle their voice and everyone can feel their frustrations at not getting their voices heard. But maybe working with the candidates instead of these hijacking events would be better for their cause. Just my opinion. One more point. These confrontations can be dangerous if tempers and passions get out of hand. Bernie needs to have some protection from them.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
28. +100000000000!!
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 03:52 PM
Aug 2015

mimi85

(1,805 posts)
33. When are they going to start
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:18 PM
Aug 2015

with Republicans? Bernie (my candidate), Hillary and O'Malley already gave statements supporting them. Trump - I hate even typing his name - said no one could take over his mic. Probably has thugs for bodyguards. Wait, doesn't the Secret Service (an oxymoron) provide security to candidates?

Time to start with him and the rest of the GOPers who are NOT for equal anything. Except wars.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
35. Locking...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

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