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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:32 AM Jul 2015

Tom Cotton compares John Kerry to Pontius Pilate

Source: Politico

Cotton said that Kerry, who is appearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday to sell lawmakers on the agreement, “acted like Pontius Pilate” by not drawing a line.

“He washed his hands, kicked it to the IAEA, knowing that Congress would not get this information unless someone went out to find it,” he said, noting allegations that Iran has tested nuclear detonators at its Parchin facility. (Iran has denied the accusations, but has so far refused to allow IAEA inspectors full access.)

There needs to be a baseline, Cotton said. “For all we know,” he remarked, any unknown actions at Parchin “would undercut the agreement.”

On Wednesday, National Security Adviser Susan Rice told reporters that Congress will be briefed on the side documents and should come to the “same rational conclusion” as the administration that it is a “good and strong deal.”





Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/tom-cotton-john-kerry-pontius-pilate-iran-deal-120520.html#ixzz3gjAEIPTy



So, John Kerry not only lost Vietnam, but also killed Jesus, according to the war pig brigade.

Voting against this deal is a litmus test. Whose side are people on--Tehran Tom's or John Kerry's?
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Tom Cotton compares John Kerry to Pontius Pilate (Original Post) geek tragedy Jul 2015 OP
Ron Paul, an ultra conservative said Iran Agreement Boosts Peace, Defeats Neocons TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #1
Fuck Ron Paul nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2
+1 geardaddy Jul 2015 #16
I get that, but here's one of their own, who disagrees and shows a democrat who served some respect TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #21
I dunno if Paul's one of their own, more like his own brand of crazy geek tragedy Jul 2015 #25
Cant cite someone unless you agree with them on everything Report1212 Jul 2015 #51
he's not wrong in this instance n/t Scootaloo Jul 2015 #52
He's right here, but fuck him nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #54
I wouldn't fuck him with someone else's dick n/t Scootaloo Jul 2015 #55
Why? Reter Jul 2015 #64
Then he should talk to his son still_one Jul 2015 #28
He secretly supports it too, he's just a sellout so he can get the nomination Reter Jul 2015 #66
He's not an ultra-conservative Reter Jul 2015 #65
Kerry isn't Pontius Pilot, but Cotton is Judas Iscariot. olegramps Jul 2015 #68
This Tom Cotton character seems to get more ignorant every day. bulloney Jul 2015 #3
Ever since his name appeared on the radar--it has been noting but hate coming riversedge Jul 2015 #4
" " " n/t MBS Jul 2015 #6
Cotton call for investigation of Planned Parenthood riversedge Jul 2015 #7
If PP is shut down like ACORN was, that will be my straw. That I can promise everyone randys1 Jul 2015 #27
Ignorant AND arrogant. MBS Jul 2015 #5
Exactly. n/t YvonneCa Jul 2015 #39
I'm not American and don't live in the US SwissTony Jul 2015 #9
he gets on my nerves, too. MBS Jul 2015 #53
Cotton is packing his bags for the WH and playing to the base the next few years will blm Jul 2015 #11
Good, let him run next time. lark Jul 2015 #14
He does have a Palin-esq quality about him flygal Jul 2015 #43
Yes he is ignorant wshaffer Jul 2015 #12
When is he due for re-election? abakan Jul 2015 #44
Tom Cotton compares John Kerry to Pontius Pilate ... The Stupid is Strong w/this one Botany Jul 2015 #8
GOP and corpmedia turning this into Climate Change debate - 98% of experts say it's a great deal blm Jul 2015 #10
OH, I think it's way deeper than that. lark Jul 2015 #13
There is not doubt, the republicans want war still_one Jul 2015 #29
Hey, people, just thought you should know, we're going to war with Iran whether you like it or not. The Stranger Jul 2015 #15
Exactly how many IEDs went off under his jeep? jmowreader Jul 2015 #17
Radical Religious Tom Cotton always cries at the "wall of separation" between Church and State Sunlei Jul 2015 #18
Umm, well, that's a bit of an awkward analogy... renegade000 Jul 2015 #19
My King James Version True Blue American Jul 2015 #46
crossthread here to rec on the subject of John Kerry! TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #20
When will we ever get rid of Politicalboi Jul 2015 #22
pontius pilate was the governor of judea from 26 to 36 restorefreedom Jul 2015 #41
Senator Tom Cotton, the Antichrist Geronimoe Jul 2015 #23
Really...................... turbinetree Jul 2015 #24
Kerry probably does use water when washing his hands, so there's that. merrily Jul 2015 #26
Who in this scenario is Jesus? abakan Jul 2015 #45
War with Iran = Jesus in this analogy, I think. Gore1FL Jul 2015 #47
You would have to ask him. I stated the only similarity I could think of. merrily Jul 2015 #50
Blackspade compares Tom Cotton to a flaming sack of shit. blackspade Jul 2015 #30
I must take issue with you comparing him to a flaming sack of shit. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #31
Well played sir, Well played. blackspade Jul 2015 #40
A flaming sack of shit can provide heat and light. Thor_MN Jul 2015 #49
Probably smells better too. n/t Martin Eden Jul 2015 #60
Why are people who don't like this deal on "Iran's side" (ie. Tehran Tom)? hughee99 Jul 2015 #32
Tehran Tom is a pen pal of the Ayatollahs geek tragedy Jul 2015 #33
I'm aware of this. It doesn't make him on "Iran's side". hughee99 Jul 2015 #36
What he's trying would immensely benefit Iran. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #37
Traitor Tommy is just an attention-seeking asswipe. BlueStater Jul 2015 #34
we have the world's largest military, thousands of nukes, but these guys think everyone is a threat yurbud Jul 2015 #35
If that's the litmus test lets ask Pope Francis who is more like Pontius Pilate karynnj Jul 2015 #38
+100000000 YvonneCa Jul 2015 #61
Well I guess the Neville Chamberlain comparison is sorta run it's course. Although Pontius Pilate Monk06 Jul 2015 #42
I am surprised at Tom Cotton and his LIES. It seems Republicans rladdi Jul 2015 #48
Tom Cotton is an idiot and is scary Gothmog Jul 2015 #56
Whatever you say, Barrabas! n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #57
Four Letters Depaysement Jul 2015 #58
So much for "Brothers in Arms" Fritz Walter Jul 2015 #59
"We're With Stupid" Cha Jul 2015 #62
I'm tired of hearing this chump shoot off his mouth. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2015 #63
Tom needs to STFU antiRWmedia82 Jul 2015 #67
Well Tom is Judas Iscariot reincarnated. 47of74 Jul 2015 #69
Tom Cotton is a Judas who has betrayed his own country. Nitram Jul 2015 #70
Nice try, but Huckabee still has you beat crim son Jul 2015 #71
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
1. Ron Paul, an ultra conservative said Iran Agreement Boosts Peace, Defeats Neocons
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jul 2015
http://www.ronpaul.com/2015-07-20/ron-paul-iran-agreement-boosts-peace-defeats-neocons/

Ron Paul: Iran Agreement Boosts Peace, Defeats Neocons


RonPaul.com
July 20, 2015

Foreign Policy
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. I dunno if Paul's one of their own, more like his own brand of crazy
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:59 PM
Jul 2015

There's no such thing as a realist, let alone isolationists, in the Republican party.

They're 100% warmongering neocons.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
66. He secretly supports it too, he's just a sellout so he can get the nomination
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:28 AM
Jul 2015

The father never sold out to win votes.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
65. He's not an ultra-conservative
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 01:27 AM
Jul 2015

He's a right-leaning libertarian. His son is similar, but he is more so. Paleo-conservatives like Pat Buchanan can be described as ultra-conservative. They also support the Iran deal.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
3. This Tom Cotton character seems to get more ignorant every day.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jul 2015

When will he and others of his ilk get through their thick heads that this agreement was negotiated with several other allies? Would they sign off on this agreement if they didn't think it would achieve its objectives? Don't they have skin in the game, so to speak?

Cotton and the other bozos talk like this was strictly a U.S.-Iran agreement, and they are so obsessed with opposing the Obama Administration on everything that they'll just put their ignorance out there just to appease their knuckle-dragging base.

riversedge

(70,077 posts)
7. Cotton call for investigation of Planned Parenthood
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:50 AM
Jul 2015



Arkansas News Bureau ?@arkansasnews 16h16 hours ago

Boozman, Cotton call for investigation of Planned Parenthood http://ow.ly/PXZnV

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. If PP is shut down like ACORN was, that will be my straw. That I can promise everyone
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jul 2015

I dont know where the Black people's straw is, were I them it would have been 40 yrs ago for me.

But i know what mine is.

My other straw is Gay rights, anybody see that FUCK Santorum on Rachel last night?

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
9. I'm not American and don't live in the US
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

But this guy is getting on my nerves.

He's not what the world needs.

blm

(113,010 posts)
11. Cotton is packing his bags for the WH and playing to the base the next few years will
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jul 2015

be the road he will travel to get there.

lark

(23,061 posts)
14. Good, let him run next time.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jul 2015

He'll do nothing but weaken the brand and give us a better chance of winning. He's the future Donald or Ted.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
43. He does have a Palin-esq quality about him
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 09:46 AM
Jul 2015

that intends to sell a lot of stupid books and get a Fox News deal.

 

wshaffer

(5 posts)
12. Yes he is ignorant
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jul 2015

If you think he is ignorant just think of how ignorant the people are who elected him. He and others like him aren't really against the treaty as they aren't really intelligent enough to understand it. They are really against the fact that a Democratic Administration has been able to do something the Republicans couldn't come close to doing. Clinton was making progress but along George W. and he got the hackles up on his back and refused to negotiate, he'd rather fight a war or two. O'Bama with the help of two outstanding Secretaries of State, exerting sanctions and other diplomatic pressures, along with the cooperation of several powerful Nations has made it happen. Tom Cotton would rather follow Bush's path and plunge the US in more wars that can't be won.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
8. Tom Cotton compares John Kerry to Pontius Pilate ... The Stupid is Strong w/this one
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:56 AM
Jul 2015

Sen. Cotton, this is the man behind "the deal" w/Iran ..... Ernie Moniz

If he isn't the best in the world at this kind of work then the list of those that are just
as good or better is pretty damn short.

http://energy.gov/contributors/dr-ernest-moniz

snip

Prior to his appointment, Dr. Moniz was the Cecil and Ida Green Professor of Physics and Engineering Systems at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), where he was a faculty member since 1973. At MIT, he headed the Department of Physics and the Bates Linear Accelerator Center. Most recently, Dr. Moniz served as the founding Director of the MIT Energy Initiative and as Director of the MIT Laboratory for Energy and the Environment where he was a leader of multidisciplinary technology and policy studies on the future of nuclear power, coal, nuclear fuel cycles, natural gas and solar energy in a low-carbon world.


From 1997 until January 2001, Dr. Moniz served as Under Secretary of the Department of Energy. He was responsible for overseeing the Department’s science and energy programs, leading a comprehensive review of nuclear weapons stockpile stewardship, and serving as the Secretary’s special negotiator for the disposition of Russian nuclear materials. From 1995 to 1997, he served as Associate Director for Science in the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President.

In addition to his work at MIT, the White House and the Department of Energy, Dr. Moniz has served on a number of boards of directors and commissions involving science, energy and security. These include President Obama’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology, the Department of Defense Threat Reduction Advisory Committee, and the Blue Ribbon Commission on America’s Nuclear Future.

snip

Dr. Moniz received a Bachelor of Science degree summa cum laude in Physics from Boston College, a Doctorate in Theoretical Physics from Stanford University, and honorary degrees from the University of Athens, the University of Erlangen-Nurenberg, Michigan State University and Universidad Pontificia de Comillas.

blm

(113,010 posts)
10. GOP and corpmedia turning this into Climate Change debate - 98% of experts say it's a great deal
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

and the 2% who say it isn't are the ones whose views will be catapulted the loudest by corporate media.

Q&A with Hans Blix: Iran deal is ‘remarkably far-reaching’

Hans Blix is a Swedish diplomat and the former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency, the international organization tasked with monitoring and inspecting Iran’s nuclear facilities as part of the July 14, 2015, nuclear deal signed by Iran and six world powers. From 2000 to 2003, he led the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission that searched Iraq for weapons of mass destruction.

On July 20, 2015, Blix spoke with msnbc by phone from Uppsala, Sweden, to discuss the nuclear accord with Iran. The following interview has been edited for length and clarity.

MSNBC: What is your general impression of the Iran nuclear deal now that you’ve read the text? Do you think it’s a good deal, a bad deal, the best of a few bad options?

BLIX: I think it is a remarkably far-reaching and detailed agreement. And I think it has a potential for stabilizing and improving the situation in the region as it gradually gets implemented.

I’ve seen how some people have said or alleged that Iran got everything – I simply don’t understand that attitude. From the beginning, Iran accepted that they would reduce the number of centrifuges to about five or six thousand; they will commit themselves to have no reprocessing, that is, no plutonium production; they commit themselves to rearrange the research reactor that they are building in Arak so that they it will be less prone or less convenient for plutonium production; they limit the stores and stocks they have of enriched uranium; and they agree not to reach to any higher level than 3.67% [enrichment].

There are lots of other commitments that they make. What are the commitments on the other side? The commitments are to drop punishment. I do not see that as very onerous.

lark

(23,061 posts)
13. OH, I think it's way deeper than that.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

This isn't a personality contest, it's about who really wants to wage a ridiculous war of choice on Iran and who thinks that war isnt the answer to every single question about the middle east. It's that basic for most of them. Of course, there are some who just follow little murderers dicatates, but they are part of the first group when it comes to voting.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
15. Hey, people, just thought you should know, we're going to war with Iran whether you like it or not.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

If a Republican is elected President, he'll pretend that the agreement was violated. Having the agreement actually makes it EASIER to foment the inevitable war with Iran. Reprise Iraq and inspections -- rinse and repeat.

You may as well get used to it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. Radical Religious Tom Cotton always cries at the "wall of separation" between Church and State
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015
just resign from politics Tom Cotton and make our government a better place for everyone else.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
19. Umm, well, that's a bit of an awkward analogy...
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:37 PM
Jul 2015

I don't know how the story goes in Mr. Cotton's bible, but I seem to recall Pontius Pilate acceding to the demands of the Jewish theocratic establishment at the time. And subsequently, the whole "Jewish deicide" concept was an element of all the future anti-semitic attitudes (and atrocities) committed by Christian cultures.

Netanyahu will probably rib him about that one next time they chat haha.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
22. When will we ever get rid of
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jul 2015

Assholes who bring imaginary characters into congress. I'm so sick of a book being so damn important and looked at for truth when it is the farthest from the truth. He may as well compared Kerry to Whinnie the Pooh.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
41. pontius pilate was the governor of judea from 26 to 36
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jul 2015

his existence is well documented. he happens to appear in the bible, yes, but so do other people who are historical figures.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
23. Senator Tom Cotton, the Antichrist
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:40 PM
Jul 2015

With each passing day Tom Cotton acts more and more like the Antichrist.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
24. Really......................
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:55 PM
Jul 2015

did you forget there Cotton ball, that you broke the law and the Constitution when you and some of your little band of right wing men and woman sent a open letter to the Iranian government awhile back------------talk about being Pontius Pilate-------take a look in the mirror






merrily

(45,251 posts)
50. You would have to ask him. I stated the only similarity I could think of.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 12:42 AM
Jul 2015

Then again, no doubt Kerry has been to Rome at some point in his life. So, there's that, too.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
31. I must take issue with you comparing him to a flaming sack of shit.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:57 PM
Jul 2015

This is egregiously in error.

One should not compare Tom Cotton to a flaming sack of shit.

Tom Cotton is a flaming sack of shit.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
32. Why are people who don't like this deal on "Iran's side" (ie. Tehran Tom)?
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jul 2015

Iran likes this deal, that's why they agreed to it.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
36. I'm aware of this. It doesn't make him on "Iran's side".
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:50 PM
Jul 2015

I don't see anything he's done that really benefits Iran. He just doesn't seem to be supporting anything that would even attempt to resolve the issue. IMHO, a better description might be that he's on the side of those that stand to benefit from keeping the Iran issue "on the table".

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
37. What he's trying would immensely benefit Iran.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:54 PM
Jul 2015

If the US unilaterally pulls out of the agreement, China, Russia, German, France, the EU and the UN et all will drop their sanctions on Iran. Iran will get economic benefits immediately, get state of the art anti-aircraft missile defense systems, AND it will get to develop nuclear weapons at an accelerated pace.

The only countries hurt by it would be the US and Israel.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
34. Traitor Tommy is just an attention-seeking asswipe.
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 02:27 PM
Jul 2015

I'm sorry that I even have to acknowledge this skinny fuckbag.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
38. If that's the litmus test lets ask Pope Francis who is more like Pontius Pilate
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 03:34 PM
Jul 2015

To me, Cotton voting against this - and ANY agreement - is washing his hands rather than working for peace.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
42. Well I guess the Neville Chamberlain comparison is sorta run it's course. Although Pontius Pilate
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:18 PM
Jul 2015

is an ambiguous analogy. He was saying in one interpretation that the security of the world and the Roman Empire took precedence over the petty ideological squabbling of a pack of Pharisees.

You want Barabbas have Barabbas what does the world care.

rladdi

(581 posts)
48. I am surprised at Tom Cotton and his LIES. It seems Republicans
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jul 2015

can now win elections by LYING. Tom is a vet and he should know that honesty and truth is important. But Republicans prefer to LIE

Depaysement

(1,835 posts)
58. Four Letters
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 01:30 PM
Jul 2015

P . . . N . . . A . . . C

Cotton's "godfather," Willie Kristol, wants Iran bombed.

By the way, this is a crazy analogy. Pilate turned Jesus' fate over to the Jewish mob. In this analogy is he comparing Israel to Christ? Really?

Fritz Walter

(4,290 posts)
59. So much for "Brothers in Arms"
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jul 2015

He (Cottonmouth Tom -- a poisonous viper) has disgraced the uniform.

And I apologize to all reptiles for drawing that analogy, they deserve better).

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,546 posts)
63. I'm tired of hearing this chump shoot off his mouth.
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 11:15 PM
Jul 2015

I say Tom Cotton is a punk ass big mouth who does nothing but enflame the right and disrespect the work of the President and his staff. After all, Cotton was the leader of the 47 Traitors who wrote the letter.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
71. Nice try, but Huckabee still has you beat
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 12:25 PM
Jul 2015

when it comes to pure, ignorant, outrageous and offensive political statements.

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