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Lamm

(20 posts)
Mon May 7, 2012, 04:28 PM May 2012

US: CIA Thwarts New Al-Qaida Underwear Bomb Plot

Source: ABC

The CIA thwarted an ambitious plot by al-Qaida's affiliate in Yemen to destroy a U.S.-bound airliner using a bomb with a sophisticated new design around the one-year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden, The Associated Press has learned.

The plot involved an upgrade of the underwear bomb that failed to detonate aboard a jetliner over Detroit on Christmas 2009. This new bomb was also designed to be used in a passenger's underwear, but this time al-Qaida developed a more refined detonation system, U.S. officials said.

The FBI is examining the latest bomb to see whether it could have passed through airport security and brought down an airplane, officials said. They said the device did not contain metal, meaning it probably could have passed through an airport metal detector. But it was not clear whether new body scanners used in many airports would have detected it.

The would-be suicide bomber, based in Yemen, had not yet picked a target or bought his plane tickets when the CIA stepped in and seized the bomb, officials said. It's not immediately clear what happened to the alleged bomber.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-cia-thwarts-al-qaida-underwear-bomb-plot-16297082



Does it mean that I would have to start showing up butt naked in the airport scanner?

Found out about this from a friend who's currently being hassled at TSA in Chattanooga Airport.

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harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
4. Hmm.... so... which is it?
Mon May 7, 2012, 04:46 PM
May 2012

Do we need all of the hyped up "security" to stop these things, or is it up to the FBI and CIA? I'm confused.... (not really)

alp227

(32,006 posts)
6. I can't name ONE case where the TSA successfully thwarted a terrorist plot,
Mon May 7, 2012, 05:22 PM
May 2012

so there's your answer.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
9. Nor will you ever.
Mon May 7, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

For one, that is of course not their real purpose, and, two, I don't think they could if they tried.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
7. CIA PR story to throw the heat off about all the people they have been murdering?
Mon May 7, 2012, 05:26 PM
May 2012

I'm just a classic cynic about stories like this.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
12. ABC factually incorrect re: Xmas underwear bomb "failed to detonate" - it detonated,
Mon May 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
May 2012

but only enough to give the wearer 2nd degree burns in his sensitive spots. It was designed and built by the same agency that shepherded the wearer onto that flight to Detroit. He was boarded even though he didn't have a proper passport and had to be taken into a back room at Amsterdam Airport by an Agency minder to talk to an airline official who boarded him anyway.

The fact that the Underwear Bomber got special treatment by the US Government to put him aboard an airliner was admitted publicly a month later before a Congressional Committee by Undersecretary of State Patrick Kennedy.

The State Dept. acknowledged that the CIA let him on the plane knowing he was involved in a terrorist cell. On January 27, 2010, an official from the U.S. State Department said that Abdulmutallab's visa was not revoked because federal authorities believed that it would have compromised a larger investigation. The official, Patrick F. Kennedy, Undersecretary of State for Management, said intelligence officials had told the State Department that letting Abdulmutallab keep his visa would allow for a greater chance of exposing the terrorist network. Here is the relevant section of Kennedy's statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee on January 20, 2010. It explains why the State Dept. did not revoke his visa, even though he was on several terrorist watch lists: http://travel.state.gov/law/legal/testimony/testimony_4635.html

We recognize the gravity of the threat we face and are working intensely with our colleagues from other agencies to ensure that when the U.S. Government obtains information that a person may pose a threat to our security, that person does not hold a visa.

We will use revocation authority prior to interagency consultation in circumstances where we believe there is an immediate threat. Revocation is an important tool in our border security arsenal. At the same time, expeditious coordination with our national security partners is not to be underestimated. There have been numerous cases where our unilateral and uncoordinated revocation would have disrupted important investigations that were underway by one of our national security partners. They had the individual under investigation and our revocation action would have disclosed the U.S. Government’s interest in the individual and ended our colleagues’ ability to quietly pursue the case and identify terrorists’ plans and co-conspirators.


Can it honestly be said under these circumstances that a plot that was facilitated was also thwarted by the same gov't agency?






suffragette

(12,232 posts)
17. That info should be included on every related story, but of course it won't be
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:14 AM
May 2012

And you raise a good point.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. I guess I'll be the first to write it: Good
Mon May 7, 2012, 06:31 PM
May 2012

It wouldn't have been real funny if the bomb had been successful.

high density

(13,397 posts)
15. So you mean we stopped it before they got to the Nude-o-Scopes?
Mon May 7, 2012, 07:08 PM
May 2012

I thought the TSA strip searching Grandma and feeling up little kids was the only way to stop these things.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
16. K&R
Mon May 7, 2012, 11:41 PM
May 2012
- ''The most potent weapon of the oppressor, is the mind of the oppressed.'' - Steven Biko



    [center]"The revolution is not going to happen tomorrow -- it's never going to happen.

    It's taking place right now.

    It is an alternate universe that runs parallel to this one, waiting for you to switch sides."


    EXPECT RESISTANCE[/center]




Awake!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
18. More security theater bullshit.
Tue May 8, 2012, 03:03 AM
May 2012

Who writes this shit anyway?
The attempt to ratchet up the fear is a joke.
OBL is now a boogyman from the grave.

I literally laughed out loud.

an ambitious plot by al-Qaida's affiliate in Yemen to destroy a U.S.-bound airliner using a bomb with a sophisticated new design around the one-year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden......had not yet picked a target or bought his plane tickets when the CIA stepped in and seized the bomb


I guess they weren't all that ambitious afterall.
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