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RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:22 PM Jun 2015

Richard Matt Shot By Police

Source: The Daily Beast

Richard Matt has been shot and seriously wounded by law enforcement, knowledgeable law-enforcement sources tell The Daily Beast. One of the two escaped murderers, Matt was shot in the vicinity of Lake Titus, New York—an area that has been intensely searched by authorities in recent days.




Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/06/26/richard-matt-shot-by-police.html?via=twitter_page



This is the only place reporting this right now
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Richard Matt Shot By Police (Original Post) RockaFowler Jun 2015 OP
Was Matt the escapee whose DNA was found in the cabin? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #1
Yes, that's how law enforcement learned they were still in the area Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #25
NYT: One of the Escapees Is Shot During Search Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #2
Did the story at the link get updated? Richard W Matt FATALLY shot. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #5
It appears so, and I'm sure it will again Cal Carpenter Jun 2015 #6
Suicide by cop? Or something else? yellowcanine Jun 2015 #11
We know what went wrong... bobclark86 Jun 2015 #19
CNN's got it, too (front page) etherealtruth Jun 2015 #3
abc local nyc also as of 4:30 - AP story LiberalElite Jun 2015 #4
Fatally shot. elleng Jun 2015 #7
I guess "white privilege" isn't always helpful in these situations (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #8
I'm guessing "relevance" isn't the strong suit of people pretending to be clever... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #12
Just imagine if he had been taken alive. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #13
Big if tabasco Jun 2015 #15
Just stop digging ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #27
I absolutely agree Skittles Jun 2015 #44
I disagree, I found it to be just as clever as the people who go on and on about it. cstanleytech Jun 2015 #21
It distracts from the real problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #28
Whatevver happened to all the sightings in western New York bluestateguy Jun 2015 #9
Yup. A waste of time, manpower and money. N/T bobclark86 Jun 2015 #20
I trust the police were wearing body cams so we'll know what really happened? 24601 Jun 2015 #10
in this case i don't care samsingh Jun 2015 #14
Why? What if he was butt naked and his hands were up? That wouldn't matter to you? n/t 24601 Jun 2015 #17
i'm more concerned about the people he would have killed and the terrorist attacks samsingh Jun 2015 #22
here's the answer from this same thread. samsingh Jun 2015 #23
You are the reason Liberals get bad press. alphafemale Jun 2015 #31
No, they're not. tabasco Jun 2015 #32
They already were subject to that alphafemale Jun 2015 #34
Do you have something you're trying to prove? tabasco Jun 2015 #35
An act of kindness to an escaped murderer would be your last act. alphafemale Jun 2015 #36
I hate to say it alphafemale PCIntern Jun 2015 #37
So, if a fugitive surrenders and is unarmed tabasco Jun 2015 #39
I didn't say that so your subject line is not relevant PCIntern Jun 2015 #43
I've been in infantry combat. tabasco Jun 2015 #38
I don't think they regard the other one as dangerous. alphafemale Jun 2015 #42
Matt apparently shot at a driver in a camper near Malone, New York........ Historic NY Jun 2015 #16
So he was *not* unarmed. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #40
Heard that they were drinking the liquor they found in the cabin and popping off shots.... Historic NY Jun 2015 #41
To those referencing race: graegoyle Jun 2015 #18
I dont think that makes a difference Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #26
Yes, I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #30
These guys weren't/aren't going to be taken alive. djg21 Jun 2015 #33
Again, DU at its assholish finest ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #29
State police describe how they found Richard Matt (Video) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #24

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
25. Yes, that's how law enforcement learned they were still in the area
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 01:46 AM
Jun 2015
Cabin break-in; DNA discovery

The new revelations come as law enforcement officials chase the most promising lead yet in the manhunt for the pair. DNA from Matt and Sweat was found in a burglarized cabin not far from where the convicted murders broke out more than two weeks ago, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Personal items, including boots, were discovered Saturday inside the cabin in Mountain View, some 20 miles west of the prison, another law enforcement source briefed on the investigation told CNN's Deborah Feyerick.

The items left behind, and the manner in which they were left, suggest the pair were surprised and left in a hurry, according to the source.

The boots left in the cabin suggest one of the fugitives may be barefoot, the source said, possibly hindering his ability to move through the dense brush. But there may have been other boots and shoes in the cabin that were taken by the pair.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/23/us/new-york-prison-break/index.html

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
2. NYT: One of the Escapees Is Shot During Search
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jun 2015

One of the Escapees Is Shot During Search

Richard W. Matt, one of the convicted murderers who staged an elaborate escape from New York’s largest prison nearly three weeks ago, was shot on Friday in a burst of gunfire by law enforcement officers, two people with knowledge of the situation said.

The shots rang out as law enforcement officers zeroed in on Friday on an area of remote terrain in Franklin County, near where investigators discovered evidence in two hunting cabins that indicated the missing inmates had been there.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/nyregion/gunfire-reported-during-search-for-escaped-inmates.html

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
6. It appears so, and I'm sure it will again
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jun 2015

The blessing and curse of internet news.

I was just trying to help get more sources out there than the daily beast. My copy/paste is directly from that NYT link at the time I did it.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
11. Suicide by cop? Or something else?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jun 2015

If they are killed it makes it difficult to find out just what went wrong at that prison.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
19. We know what went wrong...
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jun 2015

They got drill bits and other tools smuggled to them (they didn't appear out of thin air). Authorities believe by the two prison workers who were charged this week.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. I'm guessing "relevance" isn't the strong suit of people pretending to be clever...
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

I'm guessing "relevance" isn't the strong suit of people pretending to be clever...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
13. Just imagine if he had been taken alive.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 05:50 PM
Jun 2015

There would be about five threads on the first page of GD about how his "white privilege" had saved him.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
21. I disagree, I found it to be just as clever as the people who go on and on about it.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jun 2015

And yes by that I mean that imo it wasnt clever (sorry Nye) here nor do I find it clever when others invoke because it distracts from the real problems with the police departments scattered all over the country which are largely the fault of inadequate training and not enough independent oversight and the fact many police departments seem to be doing a pretty shitty job at weeding out people who never should have even been hired.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
28. It distracts from the real problem ...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 08:12 AM
Jun 2015

which is "police departments scattered all over the country which are largely the fault of inadequate training and not enough independent oversight and the fact many police departments seem to be doing a pretty shitty job at weeding out people who never should have even been hired" ... that if left unchecked, might get around to treating white people the way they do those Black folks.

That is how your dismissal of white privilege comes across ... to those without that privilege.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
9. Whatevver happened to all the sightings in western New York
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jun 2015

And then we just stopped hearing about it. Was that just a blind alley?

samsingh

(17,590 posts)
22. i'm more concerned about the people he would have killed and the terrorist attacks
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jun 2015

happening all over the world.

samsingh

(17,590 posts)
23. here's the answer from this same thread.
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 11:21 PM
Jun 2015

MALONE, N.Y.–Richard Matt, one of two escaped murderers from an upstate New York prison, has been shot by officers involved in a nearly three-week manhunt.

“Matt has been shot, he’s down,” Lenny DePaul, a former U.S. Marshal told CNN.

However, sources confirm that he has died from his injuries. Specifically, federal sources say he was killed by a border patrol tactical team.

Matt apparently shot at a driver in a camper near Malone, New York, a federal law enforcement source said. The driver called 911. When officers arrived, gunfire erupted and Matt was shot dead.

Officers are currently pursuing fugitive David Sweat, a law enforcement source briefed on the investigation said Friday, but they do not have eyes on him.

“They stuck together,” DePaul said.”They needed each other.”

http://foxct.com/2015/06/26/breaking-one-of-ny-prison-escapees-shot-by-officers/


** Another report had that knocking on a door in the area the women inside stayed quiet and called the police.

more here.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/news/prison_escape/richard-matt-shot-dead/article_20b0e0be-aaf2-5405-9128-c3b7f603b0ab.html

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
31. You are the reason Liberals get bad press.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:13 AM
Jun 2015

Escaped murderers of that vile of a nature are on a shoot on sight basis.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
34. They already were subject to that
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jun 2015

They are like rabid dogs.

Coddle them all you want.

Find your throat slit for the $5 in your pocket.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
36. An act of kindness to an escaped murderer would be your last act.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 04:42 PM
Jun 2015

I'm not certain why you don't comprehend that.

PCIntern

(25,489 posts)
37. I hate to say it alphafemale
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 04:54 PM
Jun 2015

but you are 100% correct in that regard.

This guy was a pure sociopath likened by several to Hannibal Lecter. They had special provisions in the courtroom when he was being tried including the removal of all the glass so he couldn't break it and use it as a weapon, the had sharpshooters positioned. They were scared to death of him.

He had to be hit.

PCIntern

(25,489 posts)
43. I didn't say that so your subject line is not relevant
Sun Jun 28, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

to my post.

He WAS armed and EXTREMELY dangerous. They were going to kill him unless he had been found asleep. He had a shotgun. Case closed.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
38. I've been in infantry combat.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 05:32 PM
Jun 2015

It's always you easy chair warriors who think killing is so great.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
42. I don't think they regard the other one as dangerous.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:42 PM
Jun 2015

There will be more effort to capture him alive.

The one shot was lethal as hell.

Not a tear at all that he is a corpse.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
16. Matt apparently shot at a driver in a camper near Malone, New York........
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 06:44 PM
Jun 2015

MALONE, N.Y.–Richard Matt, one of two escaped murderers from an upstate New York prison, has been shot by officers involved in a nearly three-week manhunt.

“Matt has been shot, he’s down,” Lenny DePaul, a former U.S. Marshal told CNN.

However, sources confirm that he has died from his injuries. Specifically, federal sources say he was killed by a border patrol tactical team.

Matt apparently shot at a driver in a camper near Malone, New York, a federal law enforcement source said. The driver called 911. When officers arrived, gunfire erupted and Matt was shot dead.

Officers are currently pursuing fugitive David Sweat, a law enforcement source briefed on the investigation said Friday, but they do not have eyes on him.

“They stuck together,” DePaul said.”They needed each other.”

http://foxct.com/2015/06/26/breaking-one-of-ny-prison-escapees-shot-by-officers/


** Another report had that knocking on a door in the area the women inside stayed quiet and called the police.

more here.
http://www.pressrepublican.com/news/prison_escape/richard-matt-shot-dead/article_20b0e0be-aaf2-5405-9128-c3b7f603b0ab.html

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
41. Heard that they were drinking the liquor they found in the cabin and popping off shots....
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jun 2015

which makes sense since the gun powder odor gave them away..


The shooting of the camper led officers to a cabin Friday afternoon, where they discovered the smell of gunpowder, said Cuomo and Joseph D'Amico, superintendent of New York State Police. There was an indication that someone had recently been there and fled out the back door, he said.

While searching the property, officers heard coughs and tactical teams came upon Matt in the woods.

"They verbally challenged him, told him to put up his hands. And at that time he was shot when he didn't comply," D'Amico said.

A 20-gauge shotgun was recovered from Matt, who did not fire his weapon, D'Amico said.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/06/ny_prison_escape_gunpowder_odo.html

graegoyle

(532 posts)
18. To those referencing race:
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 09:21 PM
Jun 2015

These are escaped convicts, not the first arrest of a SUSPECT. So, here's a hearty

FUCK OFF.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
26. I dont think that makes a difference
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 07:23 AM
Jun 2015

Cops should always try to arrest somebody without doing any harm to that person.

I don't care if they are excaped convicts, or Dylan Roof.

If they are a threat do the cop, I never have a problem with a cop using self defense. If they are not a threat, the cop should do not harm.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
30. Yes, I agree ...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 08:28 AM
Jun 2015

Cops should always try to arrest somebody without doing any harm to that person.

But that the problem ... the white privilege problem ... or hasn't folks noticed, cops are pretty good at arresting white people, even those having committed horrific violence, and hold weapons; but, not so good at encountering unarmed Black folks, jay-walking or shopping, or with broken tail lights.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
33. These guys weren't/aren't going to be taken alive.
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 09:42 AM
Jun 2015

That is the reality of the situation. Matt was serving 25 to life and Sweat life without parole. Both would have grown old and died in a NYDOCS correctional facility even before the escape. If captured, each would get additional jail time, which would be meaningless. More importantly, they each would serve the rest of their sentences and spend the remainder of their lives in a Special Housing Unit (SHU) cell in 23-hr lockdown (1 hr outdoor rec/day in what amounts to a cage attached to the cell), with limited personal belongings, no privileges, minimal contact with other prisoners and the outside world, and no chance whatsoever at reprieve.

I just hope Sweat doesn't harm anyone before he is found and dispatched (or dispatches himself).

The world is a better place without Matt in it, and will be better yet once Sweat is gone too. While I'm opposed to the death penalty, these two were poster children for it.


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
29. Again, DU at its assholish finest ...
Sat Jun 27, 2015, 08:17 AM
Jun 2015

and when someone asks, or examines, why they would be pursuing this line of assholery ... they will crime that they are victims of reverse racism.

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