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shawn703

(2,702 posts)
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:27 PM May 2012

DEA apologizes to student who says he drank his urine to survive

Source: Los Angeles Times

The Drug Enforcement Administration has apologized to a San Diego college student who said he drank his own urine to survive after being left in a holding cell for five days without food, water or access to a toilet.

The man, identified by news outlets as 23-year-old UC San Diego engineering student Daniel Chong, was “accidentally” left in the holding cell after he and eight other people were detained for questioning following an April 21 raid in which agents found guns, ammunition and an array of drugs, including 18,000 ecstasy pills, the DEA said.

“I am deeply troubled by the incident that occurred here last week,” William R. Sherman, acting special agent in charge of DEA's San Diego Division, said in a statement Wednesday.

“I extend my deepest apologies [to] the young man and want to express that this event is not indicative of the high standards that I hold my employees to,” Sherman said, adding he has ordered “an extensive review” of DEA policies and procedures.

Read more: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/05/dea-apologizes-to-student-who-drank-his-urine-to-survive.html

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DEA apologizes to student who says he drank his urine to survive (Original Post) shawn703 May 2012 OP
no, but it's clearly indicative of the LOW standards DEA cops are held to.... mike_c May 2012 #1
Hmm... Sherman holds his employees to "high" standards, does he? Blue Owl May 2012 #2
I hope he gets a big enough settlement from those motherfuckers... Systematic Chaos May 2012 #3
unfortunately, that settlement is paid for by US taxpayers wordpix May 2012 #23
Probably but not necessarily Jim Lane May 2012 #28
And for your troubles usrname May 2012 #4
He was a few hours from death when found. If he had died, they would have hushed it up. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #5
It would have been a suicide. marble falls May 2012 #12
yep. Nevermind that he was malnourished and dehydrated. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #13
New slogan: "The drugs probably won't kill ya, but the DEA will." n/t Tsiyu May 2012 #19
DEA public affairs officer George Tirebinder replies,"yeah he was malnourished and.... marble falls May 2012 #21
I was called to evaluate a man in a local small town jail here dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #25
scary stuff. marble falls May 2012 #26
"this event is not indicative of the high standards that I hold my employees to"... riiiiiight NoMoreWarNow May 2012 #6
"Acting Special Agent In Charge?" Well, THERE'S the problem -- no one IS in charge! rocktivity May 2012 #7
Oh dear, they forgot to consult their attorneys before ADMITTING GUILT. kestrel91316 May 2012 #8
The DEA has 10,000 employees in 60 countries around the globe... lib2DaBone May 2012 #9
I have to disagree.... AnneD May 2012 #29
They like to call it the "war on drugs" but's it's really a war on human rights. NC_Nurse May 2012 #10
Eliminating the DEA (and their parasites...agents) is one way to cut the deficit. Dawson Leery May 2012 #11
It would be the BEST way to cut the deficit Tsiyu May 2012 #15
+1 iscooterliberally May 2012 #17
more: He said when employees discovered him in the cell that they looked confused and nervous Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #14
The controlled substances act needs to be repealed. iscooterliberally May 2012 #16
+1 and it's not like the policies are working, either wordpix May 2012 #24
A while back, a lawyer friend of mine successfully freed a guy struggle4progress May 2012 #18
So they admit fault... longship May 2012 #20
Mr. Sherman should be jailed for a year with only enough bread and water... 47of74 May 2012 #22
Sure: "we are sorry you drank your own urine." ChairmanAgnostic May 2012 #27
There should be some kind of standard-time-interval check.... PavePusher May 2012 #30

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
2. Hmm... Sherman holds his employees to "high" standards, does he?
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:37 PM
May 2012

They must've been pretty high if they forgot about their own "suspect" in their own jail cell.

Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
3. I hope he gets a big enough settlement from those motherfuckers...
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:37 PM
May 2012

...that he'll never have to worry about whether or not he can use his college degree.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
28. Probably but not necessarily
Thu May 3, 2012, 08:00 AM
May 2012

There's an important provision of federal law, section 1983 (42 U.S.C. § 1983), that allows for civil suits against government officials in their individual capacities. There's at least some possibility that culpable people will have to pay out of their own pockets.

 

usrname

(398 posts)
4. And for your troubles
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:40 PM
May 2012

We have all these legal drugs that you can take, courtesy of our enablers, the big pharma companies.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
21. DEA public affairs officer George Tirebinder replies,"yeah he was malnourished and....
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:12 PM
May 2012

dehydrated, but that only shows how determined he was to kill hisself. What else could the jailers do in this case? Our hands are tied by the bleeding heart commie court system forced on us by sharia court judges. He may have been handcuffed, but our hands are tied!"

My sister handled a case in Harris County (TX), where they beat an inmate to death and then hung him. The bed was bolted down and there was no chair or anything in the cell to step off of. He was found about three feet away from the bed hanging from the ceiling.

They finally settled with the family without admitting guilt.

This has to be the fifth or sixth such case I read about in last year.

"Oppps, sorry!" just doesn't begin to cut it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
25. I was called to evaluate a man in a local small town jail here
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:59 PM
May 2012

whose face was covered in cuts, bruises and blood.
cops claimed he had kept banging his own head into the bars, therefore was suicidal
( which is why they wanted the Mental Health consult, hoping he would be listed as suicidal))
but
there was no blood on the bars or walls outside of the bars, the guy was in pain, but could talk coherently, he was smart enough not to say anything in front of the 3 cops who were hanging around with their ears around the corner of the room.
So I played it straight, got his personal info and family member phone numbers
then told cops that due to his "self inflicted" injuries, they HAD to take him to the hospital ER,
emphazing he was NOT suicidal.
Met them there, had told ER doc to check for evidence of a beating,
called his family to let them know where he was, and suggested to him he get a lawyer right quick.
And documented the hell out of everything, in case his lawyer needed it.
That was in 1998, and I still remember it plain as day.

 

NoMoreWarNow

(1,259 posts)
6. "this event is not indicative of the high standards that I hold my employees to"... riiiiiight
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:47 PM
May 2012

color me skeptical

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
7. "Acting Special Agent In Charge?" Well, THERE'S the problem -- no one IS in charge!
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:48 PM
May 2012

And losing track of detainees for FIVE days sound more like a complete breakdown than an "incident." And what does Mr. Acting Special Agent In Charge call the Holocaust -- overzealous frat house hazing?


rocktivity

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
8. Oh dear, they forgot to consult their attorneys before ADMITTING GUILT.
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012


Turn around, drop your pants, and spread 'em, DEA. Because you are so f----d.
 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
9. The DEA has 10,000 employees in 60 countries around the globe...
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012

employees involved in drug running, espionage, murder-for-hire and money laundering.

If Paul Ryan wants to cut the budget.. this would be a good place to start.

NC_Nurse

(11,646 posts)
10. They like to call it the "war on drugs" but's it's really a war on human rights.
Wed May 2, 2012, 04:50 PM
May 2012

What a crock. I hope he gets millions in settlement money and they prosecute these people for negligence or worse.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
15. It would be the BEST way to cut the deficit
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:44 PM
May 2012


Not only would we save a ton if we stop fighting an unwinnable war, but the billions in fines, incarceration, legal fees and court costs that are extorted from the common American citizen would also be put back into the economy.

It's a win-win.

This hideous episode of kidnapping and torture is a wake up call. The DEA is run by rogue motherfuckers who take the money and destroy human lives without a second thought. The only reason this DEA asshole is mentioning the whole sordid affair is because they got caught.

Abolish the DEA and our nation is safer, stronger, and fiscally more sound.

OBAMA? What say YOU??????

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
14. more: He said when employees discovered him in the cell that they looked confused and nervous
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:31 PM
May 2012

He said when employees discovered him in the cell that they looked confused and nervous. A DEA employee rode with him to the hospital, where they paid for Chong’s visit.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/02/11502225-dea-apologizes-to-student-left-for-days-in-cell-with-no-food-or-water

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
16. The controlled substances act needs to be repealed.
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:47 PM
May 2012

We really do need to find out which politicians are prohibitionists and vote them out. This policy has caused so many problems in our country. We have more people in prison than any other nation. We can't tell the difference between our police and our military. The police have become an occupying military force in our own nation. Our 4th amendment rights have been taken away. There is no accountability. Who is going to police the DEA? They have far too much power and their agency needs to be overhauled and stripped of much of its power. Drugs should be traded legally and regulated rather than sold on the black market. Yes drug abuse is a problem, but this decades old policy does nothing to solve that, and everything to make matters much much worse. We now have a drug abuse problem and a citizen abuse problem. These types of stories will continue to appear until drastic changes are made.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
18. A while back, a lawyer friend of mine successfully freed a guy
Wed May 2, 2012, 05:54 PM
May 2012

who'd been arrested over the weekend and stuck in a cell to see a judge Monday morning, but hadn't ever been brought before the judge after several months

He kept telling the jail staff: I've been here more months and I've never been charged or convicted

And the jail staff kept rolling their eyes, like Oh, yeah, sure: whatever you say

longship

(40,416 posts)
20. So they admit fault...
Wed May 2, 2012, 06:13 PM
May 2012

This will not go to trial, but this guy is going to win big! We're sorry == we're guilty.

I imagine he's got many lawyers who will work pro bono. If so, good for him. If not, there's something wrong here.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
22. Mr. Sherman should be jailed for a year with only enough bread and water...
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:52 PM
May 2012

...to survive.

That's the only way these idiots will learn.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
27. Sure: "we are sorry you drank your own urine."
Thu May 3, 2012, 07:26 AM
May 2012

Such a heartfelt apology.

In normal times, heads would roll.but these are not normal times.

The DHS and TSA are too powerful these days.

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
30. There should be some kind of standard-time-interval check....
Thu May 3, 2012, 01:22 PM
May 2012

of all facilities in a detention center.

Obviously this was not being done, or was being "pencil-whipped".

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