Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:20 PM
Caspian Morgan (85 posts)
Iraq lost 2,300 Humvee armoured vehicles in Mosul: PM
Source: AFP
Baghdad (AFP) - Iraqi security forces lost 2,300 Humvee armoured vehicles when the Islamic State jihadist group overran the northern city of Mosul, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Sunday. "In the collapse of Mosul, we lost a lot of weapons," Abadi said in an interview with Iraqiya state TV. "We lost 2,300 Humvees in Mosul alone." While the exact price of the vehicles varies depending on how they are armoured and equipped, it is clearly a hugely expensive loss that has boosted IS' capabilities. Last year, the State Department approved a possible sale to Iraq of 1,000 Humvees with increased armour, machineguns, grenade launchers, other gear and support that was estimated to cost $579 million. Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/iraq-lost-2-300-humvee-armoured-vehicles-mosul-170857509.html All the wars are spiraling out of control. Meanwhile the US MSM is silent and not reporting the truth to the American people.
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Caspian Morgan | Jun 2015 | OP |
Comrade Grumpy | Jun 2015 | #1 | |
SoapBox | Jun 2015 | #2 | |
IthinkThereforeIAM | Jun 2015 | #3 | |
leveymg | Jun 2015 | #4 | |
Name removed | Jun 2015 | #5 | |
Recursion | Jun 2015 | #10 | |
moondust | Jun 2015 | #6 | |
Recursion | Jun 2015 | #9 | |
moondust | Jun 2015 | #11 | |
Plucketeer | Jun 2015 | #16 | |
project_bluebook | Jun 2015 | #7 | |
Name removed | Jun 2015 | #8 | |
Psephos | Jun 2015 | #12 | |
Javaman | Jun 2015 | #13 | |
Name removed | Jun 2015 | #14 | |
KoKo | Jun 2015 | #15 | |
Historic NY | Jun 2015 | #17 | |
mountain grammy | Jun 2015 | #18 | |
nykym | Jun 2015 | #19 |
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:24 PM
Comrade Grumpy (13,184 posts)
1. I hear they make nice vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:27 PM
IthinkThereforeIAM (2,973 posts)
3. Well I guess at least 1000 Humvees...
... for Iraq will help the economy, ie... more high value exports, sigh. |
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 11:39 PM
leveymg (36,418 posts)
4. Each Humvee cost $579,000? No wonder they want another war
Just load up the Boeings and drop pallets of $100 dollar bills. It would be cheaper.
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Response to leveymg (Reply #4)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:57 AM
Recursion (56,383 posts)
10. Unit acquisition cost is $220K per (including armor upgrade)
Total lifecycle ownership cost is IIRC about $3 million.
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Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:00 AM
moondust (18,221 posts)
6. What happens when all that stuff breaks down?
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Response to moondust (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:55 AM
Recursion (56,383 posts)
9. Humvees aren't terribly high tech
It's just a basic diesel engine inside of a big block of steel. One of the reasons they're so popular.
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Response to Recursion (Reply #9)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:44 AM
moondust (18,221 posts)
11. They still need spare parts.
And somebody who can maintain and fix them, which can be somewhat more demanding than firing a Kalashnikov.
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Response to moondust (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:09 AM
Plucketeer (12,882 posts)
16. Certainly there's support for these vehicles
not far from the front. Those support facilities would have stocks of parts - at least the parts known to most often fail - close at hand. I seriously doubt the turn-tail Iraqis gathered up all the brake shoes, fuel pumps and tires as they fled. So, there's the part trove. And in addition, they can cannibalize any inoperable (partly damaged) vehicles as need be.
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Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:11 AM
project_bluebook (411 posts)
7. Kind of like a modern Lend Lease
from hell. Will we ever learn?
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Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 01:45 AM
Psephos (8,032 posts)
12. The JV just got new team equipment. n/t
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 09:26 AM
Javaman (59,345 posts)
13. Did you hear that? that was the sound of cash registars ringing all over...
defense industry land!
they are rubbing their hands together as a "deal" is reached to send more arms to Iraq to replace the old 2300 Humvees that were wasting away in transport depots for lack of parts. not even going into the massive sales of more arms to Iraq. That's a given. what are we building here? what are we feeding? what is being created? |
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Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 10:17 AM
KoKo (84,711 posts)
15. Our Tax Dollars at work as Average Americans live under Austerity,Ageing Infrastructure
Constant Government Surveillance, Military Actions by our Police against Citizens, Declining Job Opportunities and lack of Affordable College Education Opportunities.
What could be wrong about this? |
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:14 AM
Historic NY (35,349 posts)
17. Well at least we have new targets to aim for.
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Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 11:20 AM
mountain grammy (24,371 posts)
18. Made in America.. one of our best exports..
We should be so proud to see all American war products having such big successes. Where's the pride in American weapons? It really is the thing we're best at. Drones, Humvees, and weapons of all shapes and sizes help put food on the table of many American workers.
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/18/349464086/isis-militants-found-to-have-american-made-weapons http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-claims-weapons-cache-iraq/ America, spreading death and destruction around the globe.. ![]() |
Response to Caspian Morgan (Original post)
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 02:11 PM
nykym (3,062 posts)
19. WHy not equip all Humvee's
with starter interrupt devices or the like and GPS tracking modules.
If ISIS is going to take them we can use it to our advantage. |