House bill would eliminate the need for a permit to carry a concealed weapon in Ohio

[OhioChick]

Source: Newsnet5.com

5:11 AM, Apr 8, 2015


CLEVELAND - A law introduced in the Ohio House would allow Ohioans to carry a concealed weapon with no permit and no training.

Gun advocates are cautiously optimistic about House Bill 147, introduced in the Ohio house by Ashville Representative Ron Hood.

“What other constitutional right do we have to go get a license from the state to exercise?” said Jim Irvine of Buckeye Firearms Association.

The law would also stop police officers from any search or seizure of a law-abiding citizen with a firearm.

Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/house-bill-would-eliminate-the-need-for-a-permit-to-carry-a-concealed-weapon-in-ohio

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Snip~ "As of now, only 5 states—Arizona, Vermont, Kansas, Wyoming, and Alaska—allow the law, but supporters expect more to follow suit."

[onehandle]

1. Kraven Krazy Kooks must have their way. nt

[upaloopa]

2. I think it is a sign of the times that we are passing

laws like this. I think gunners won't see it the way I do, but never in my 69 years would I have thought we should all be able to walk around carrying guns.
Life is not that dangerous. Most of us will not be carrying guns on our persons.
I am thankful for that.

[Botany]

3. as soon as my folks pass I'm out of here

(maybe) In my town, Columbus OH, we have more murders by gun in
one year then the country of Japan has in about 10 years.

I have hunted and owned guns for years but this is flat out nuts.

In the good old days of the wild west they got law and order into
frontier towns by not allowing people to carry guns into town.

If all you own are hammers then every problem you see looks like a nail.

[LuckyLib]

4. Just adding one more state I won't set foot in to my growing list.

And I have old family ties to Ohio - grandparents immigrated there in the late 1880's early 1900's. Lots of gravestones there.

[hotrod0808]

5. Former Ohio CCW holder here

Had it when I had a business and carried large amounts of cash on me, then let it lapse when the business went under. I never had to pull my firearm, and consider the exercise a colossal waste of time for a false sense of security. That is all.

[safeinOhio]

6. Me too.

Then I figured it out. Why would I want to anywhere I thought I might need a gun.

[louis-t]

7. "Cautiously optimistic?"

I would think that optimists wouldn't see the need to carry a gun.

[hollowdweller]

8. Same bill passed in WV vetoed by Dem Governor on request of police.

[Judi Lynn]

9. Sociopaths are trying to drag down the entire human race to their level, or else.

Why should destructive people make the decisions for everyone?

Does that make sense?

[Skittles]

10. stupid paranoid cowards gotta have their guns

[former9thward]

18. Vermont must be some sort of hell hole because of this law....

[crim son]

11. They're working on the same thing here in Maine.

http://bangordailynews.com/2015/04/08/politics/effort-to-relax-maines-concealed-carry-law-draws-heated-responses/?ref=regionstate

[roamer65]

12. Vermont has had this law for years.

The control of firearms and ammunition really needs to be on purchasing side, not the carrying side. The purchasing process has become way too lax IMO.

You should have to go through meaningful classes, education and background checks before you are allowed to purchase.

[Shamash]

13. Funny, that

How no one thought it useful to compare the 5 states listed to the national average for firearm murders before criticizing the law. Where #1 is the lowest per capita rate and #51 is the highest (so we can include DC), based on FBI figures for 2010 and usliberals.about.com:

Vermont: #1 (42% gun owners)
Wyoming: #10 (60% gun owners)
Kansas: #22 (42% gun owners)
Alaska: #23 (58% gun owners)
Arizona: #40 (31% gun owners)

and:
Ohio: #27 (32% gun owners)

for reference, the US areas with highest and lowest percentage of gun owners are:
Wyoming: #10 (60% gun owners)
Hawaii: #3 (7% gun owners)

So it would seem if the Ohio law fails to pass, you would still be safer in four out of the five states where the proposed law is in effect. Feel free to imagine any correlation you want with these numbers, but if a state with 42% of its people owning guns and unlicensed concealed carry has a lower firearm murder rate than one with only 7% ownership and a very restrictive "may issue" policy for concealed carry, it is difficult to argue that either simple possession or concealed carry is the big problem that has to be dealt with to reduce firearm murders.

[Cryptoad]

15. are you lost?

[Shamash]

17. Not lost, just out of place

I prefer to hang out with liberals who are intelligent, rational and make their decisions based on facts and consistent application of liberal principles. But occasionally I feel the need to renew my cynicism and remind myself that the Democratic Party has its equivalent of Westboro Baptist, though without Westboro's level of intellect and introspection in regard to the issues they care about. Just yesterday I saw a DU discussion filled with all caps profanity and an outright call for brutal violence against fellow Americans for no reason other than ideological disagreement. In fact, one of the ruder people in that discussion is also in this one. Purely coincidence, I suppose.

So no, I'm not lost. But I think a number of other people might be.

[workinclasszero]

14. It will be nationwide soon

and when it hits where I live I guess I and my wife will have to get armed and carry everywhere we go because every reich wing nutcase will be carrying for sure.

Damn this country is going to hell in a hand basket!

Right wing insanity is engulfing this nation.

[Cryptoad]

16. GOP: A gun for every idiot and an idiot for every gun....

what can go wrong?