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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:10 PM Apr 2015

Iranians celebrate nuclear deal: 'This will bring hope to our life'

Last edited Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:26 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: The Guardian

Tehran residents rejoice and drivers honk their horns after the announcement of a landmark deal that will lift sanctions and avert the threat of war.

Iranians have reacted jubilantly to news of a breakthrough in nuclear negotiations, in the hope it will end years of international isolation and economic hardship – and avert the threat of war.

The news from Switzerland was especially sweet coming as Iranians celebrated the final day of their Nowruz new year holidays. Even though newspapers, bazaars and state institutions were closed, many welcomed the landmark agreement which they believe will have a dramatic effect on the lives of ordinary Iranians.

“This will bring hope to our life,” said Ali, a 34-year-old Tehrani citizen. “It was as if someone had blocked my airways but I can now breath. Everyone is happy, we’ve been waiting for this for too long.”

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/iranians-celebrate-nuclear-deal-tehran





So happy for them, so happy for us.


Iranians celebrate in the street after the agreement from Lausanne was announced. Photograph: Abedin Taherkenareh/EPA


Iranians posting selfies with Obama after Iranian TV broadcast his speech.
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Iranians celebrate nuclear deal: 'This will bring hope to our life' (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
Blessed be the peacemakers who work to ensure your children won't be sent to war ... riversedge Apr 2015 #1
Preach it, dear riversedge! AMEN! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
Amen riversedge mcar Apr 2015 #20
Gee, I've looked and looked and looked through them-thar Beatitudes calimary Apr 2015 #24
They'll find some obscure verse from Leviticus to justify their hate. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #28
You speaketh the truth, mizz calimary blm Apr 2015 #32
While the Iranians are jubilant, the neo-con Republicans are in mourning. olegramps Apr 2015 #103
This wouldn't have happened with a republican president. Renew Deal Apr 2015 #2
Well, d'uh! No way in hell... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #9
+1 jonno99 Apr 2015 #13
Youre right. Imagine if McCain was POTUS he would have bombed Iran by now. SummerSnow Apr 2015 #26
Hillary Clinton would support McCain's decision, wishing she was the one being the Decider. 2banon Apr 2015 #101
THIS!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^ calimary Apr 2015 #27
Love your rant! BlueMTexpat Apr 2015 #35
This needs to be an OP on its own. Superb rant! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #57
NICE!! titaniumsalute Apr 2015 #83
Plain as day but it doesn't fit in with their meme. Cha Apr 2015 #64
It wouldn't have happened with Hillary either Reter Apr 2015 #88
Right Renew Deal Apr 2015 #89
Well it's true, she doesn't like the Iran deal Reter Apr 2015 #95
Link? Renew Deal Apr 2015 #106
Exactly so. 2banon Apr 2015 #102
meanwhile neocons are in full cranial meltdown. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #3
Retreat from Afghanistan&Iraq, diplomatic relations with Cuba, peace with Iran... DetlefK Apr 2015 #5
"Worst President since before I was born."...Dick Cheney on FOX tomorrow. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #25
Will not go anywhere on line where they are - their bloviating and fuming at the mouth, no thanks. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
GIVE One turbinetree Apr 2015 #4
What WILL the RW bloviators be blathering about Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #14
Everyone is celebrating, except the usual irrelevant suspects now totally isolated. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #6
Let them slink into the time out corner and sulk. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #15
So the deal saved us from Israel nichomachus Apr 2015 #7
Say what? This sounds like a back-handed bashing of the deal. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17
Well consider nichomachus Apr 2015 #19
Well elucidated. Clear as crystal now...thanks. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #22
Lay you odds the republicans try to scuttle it out of spite. nt cstanleytech Apr 2015 #11
They're in treasonous huddle, plotting as we speak. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #18
Now, if only our warmongers can get behind it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #12
The PEACETRAIN is rolling, and it's going to run right over them... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #16
More good Middle Eastern policy from our President Obama. yallerdawg Apr 2015 #21
Counting down to press releases from Republicans ut oh Apr 2015 #23
Fox is already on it OnlinePoker Apr 2015 #31
My understanding is that majority of the Iranian's want peace like majority of the world. Iliyah Apr 2015 #29
Bomb-bomb McCain will be singing that tune till he dies. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #30
Can't we just bomb-bomb McCain? Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2015 #69
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2015 #33
They're celebrating this in Freeperville too!!! Martin Eden Apr 2015 #34
While I am happy... roamer65 Apr 2015 #36
Well, let's just 'GIVE PEACE A CHANCE', shall we? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #58
....from the article. Skidmore Apr 2015 #37
let's hope it turns out better than Snow Leopard Apr 2015 #38
The guy in that photo shaayecanaan Apr 2015 #48
So, can McConnell filibuster this agreement? Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #39
Pres Obama reading repub tweets on Iran deal.. Cha Apr 2015 #41
Boom, take that Bibi and your RW boot-lickers...! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #59
Hey! Cha Apr 2015 #67
I'm so happy for them, us, and the Planet! Mahalo Surya! Cha Apr 2015 #40
Good morning from Europe, dear Cha! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #60
Mahalo and Aloha from Kauai, Surya! Happiness in Iran.. Cha Apr 2015 #61
LOVE the selfie! Speaks volumes! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #62
Does it not! First time the President is on Iranian TV! Cha Apr 2015 #66
Let's hope this brings freedom to Women and minorities in Iran! seveneyes Apr 2015 #42
Hah. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #43
If, as all peace-loving people must hope, this deal brings Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #68
Finally they can threaten to destroy Israel without fear! nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #44
Which they never did shaayecanaan Apr 2015 #46
bless your heart nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #47
Kiss my arse nt shaayecanaan Apr 2015 #49
What color is the sky in this revised world we are now living in? Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #52
Whats the status of gays in yours? shaayecanaan Apr 2015 #70
Your point is what, exactly? nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #75
I feel like I'm reading Red State. bravenak Apr 2015 #76
If you genuinely have to ask that question shaayecanaan Apr 2015 #92
warmongers are advised to stay out of this thread DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #50
Or what? Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #51
No, I'm not simpleminded. And I'm not a warmonger either. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #53
Show me where I want war, or accept that you're a RW-style binary thinker. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #54
Do you know what irony is? Accusing someone of binary thinking, while using binary terms. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #55
Meh, whatever. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #56
Here, here, Disgustipated!...Just logged on from Europe this morning to find Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #65
Why do you think that is the case now? -nt Bradical79 Apr 2015 #100
See what Obama can do when Republicans aren't dragging him down. Gregorian Apr 2015 #45
God love him - he just keeps pushing on and doing the right thing... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #63
Kicking for nuclear peace Hekate Apr 2015 #71
Thanks for that, Hekate... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #72
Iran nuclear talks: Rouhani vows to abide by deal muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #73
But, but, that doesn't fit with the warmongers' narrative at all... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #74
I have yet IBEWVET Apr 2015 #77
'GIVE IT A CHANCE'...said brother Lennon. ;) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #79
I am ashamed IBEWVET Apr 2015 #81
No need, no need...But, your mother would have cocked an Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #82
That selfie of that man standing infront of the TV with Our President .... jillan Apr 2015 #78
Peace on earth, goodwill to all! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #80
I'm with you WheelWalker Apr 2015 #91
Any Step For Peace Is A Good Step colsohlibgal Apr 2015 #84
^^^AMEN to that^^^ Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #86
Proud to be the 100th Rec! Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #85
Hey, there, FA. thanks for kicking! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #87
People now need to realize the conflict goes deeper than a nuclear program. roamer65 Apr 2015 #90
See Regime Change! cynzke Apr 2015 #93
'The Iranian people are not our enemy!... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #94
Call me pessimistic but I just don't see madville Apr 2015 #96
John spoke for us all: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #97
Not all Iranians. "Iran hardliners, Israel and US Republicans criticize the nuclear deal." pampango Apr 2015 #98
I was referring to the poster's implied criticism of the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #99
And I was being facetious. The particular Iranians and Americans (and Mr. Netanyahu) who oppose this pampango Apr 2015 #104
Well, I never, here I was getting ruffled feathers, Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #105
I think its a bad deal RedstDem Apr 2015 #107
Good for them. ronnie624 Apr 2015 #108
Preach it, ronnie! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #109
The real threat was the sanctions... clg311 Apr 2015 #110

riversedge

(70,197 posts)
1. Blessed be the peacemakers who work to ensure your children won't be sent to war ...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:14 PM
Apr 2015


Blessed be the peacemakers who work to ensure your children won't be sent to war @TheObamaDiary #tcot

calimary

(81,220 posts)
24. Gee, I've looked and looked and looked through them-thar Beatitudes
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:10 PM
Apr 2015

since the fundies love thumpin' that bible of theirs - but for the life of me, I CANNOT find a SINGLE WORD from Our Lord Jesus Christ that EVER said, or inferred - "Blessed are the war-makers."

Still can't find the damn thing... It's GOTTA be there somewhere! Cuz them fundies love their war crap SO bad, and Gawd is on THEIR side! They KNOW the mind of God. They just DO!






Well, that's what they tell us all the time...




 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. They'll find some obscure verse from Leviticus to justify their hate.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:16 PM
Apr 2015

Thou shalt take the other as thine enemy,

Thou shalt smite him mightily.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
103. While the Iranians are jubilant, the neo-con Republicans are in mourning.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:10 AM
Apr 2015

How could that traitor, Obama, snatch the opportunity for killing thousands of Muslim breeders and their despicable children as was so successfully and gleefully accomplished with Shock and Awe in Iraq. The goal of creating so much suffering and chaos has been denied by a secret Muslim who sneaked into the White House. The tears are flowing this Easter in the radical evangelical churches throughout the land of the bigots that they will be denied another Mission Accomplished.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
2. This wouldn't have happened with a republican president.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:14 PM
Apr 2015

Last edited Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:51 PM - Edit history (1)

And people that say there are no differences between the parties should remember that. The Iraq War wouldn't have happened if Gore was president and the Iran deal wouldn't have happened under a republican president.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
26. Youre right. Imagine if McCain was POTUS he would have bombed Iran by now.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:13 PM
Apr 2015

he even wrote a song about it.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
101. Hillary Clinton would support McCain's decision, wishing she was the one being the Decider.
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 11:03 AM
Apr 2015

We all KNOW that as well.

I'm personally deeply pleased - no overjoyed- that President Obama worked to take this significant path despite the opposition of blood thirsty Neo-Con War Hawks occupying both Parties.

Well Done, President Obama!

This the Change I voted for in 2008 and why I never supported HRC.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
27. THIS!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:16 PM
Apr 2015

Oh yeah? STILL think both parties are the same? STILL think they're all identical? Two peas in the same pod? SERIOUSLY?????

Um... which party is it that tried to block this, throw sugar into its engine, throw tacks and broken glass and barbed wire on the pavement in front of the wheels of this car?

Um... which party is it that put 47 signatures on a piece of paper spelling out flat-out TREASON against the President/Commander-in-Chief and sent it to another country - one in the Middle East - specifically and expressly to gum up the works struggling toward an agreement? One country in particular that happens to be right in the heart of some awfully delicate negotiations re: the building up of nuclear arms.

Um... which party was it that went behind the backs of the White House AND the State Department to make mischief and further fuck up the works of the efforts toward negotiation and long-range peace - from which Israel would be a DIRECT beneficiary?

Um... which party is it that's been systematically trying to shove their narrow brand of "Christianist" religion down everybody else's throats, and work and scheme to create loopholes allowing hard-liners to discriminate while their mouths tell you they're doing no such thing?

I could go on...

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
4. GIVE One
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:18 PM
Apr 2015

for the good guys and now lets see what the bad guys have to say---just can't wait--because it will be the same old tired talking points attacking this administration all it will be is another form of bigotry coming from the republicans and there hate for this mans (Obama) team

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. Say what? This sounds like a back-handed bashing of the deal.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:45 PM
Apr 2015

Maybe you should use the smilie.

Not clear, not clear...

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
19. Well consider
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 04:55 PM
Apr 2015

1. All nuclear and intelligence experts (except Israel, of course) agreed that Iran had no nuclear program and wasn't moving toward one.

2. Iran hasn't attacked another country since 1795 and there was no indication that it was planning to do so now.

3. The only government threatening bombing was Israel and its agents in the US Congress.

Is that clear enough for you?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
21. More good Middle Eastern policy from our President Obama.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:03 PM
Apr 2015

After the Shah, the Iraq/Iran war and relentless sanctions which hurt the people - not the tyrannical government - we have a new way forward of peace.

Freedom and self-determination do not always serve our purposes but always remain a good thing.

ut oh

(893 posts)
23. Counting down to press releases from Republicans
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:07 PM
Apr 2015

who say this is the worst thing to happen to America EVAAAR

In
3...
2...
1...

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
29. My understanding is that majority of the Iranian's want peace like majority of the world.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:19 PM
Apr 2015

Boner and crew are with BiBi and his crew in Israel probably totally pissed off. Like McCain and the other GOPs, bomb bomb bomb Iran is still on the table.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
30. Bomb-bomb McCain will be singing that tune till he dies.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 05:26 PM
Apr 2015

The majority of Iranians long for peace. They want to be legitimate members of the international community.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
36. While I am happy...
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:17 PM
Apr 2015

I honestly don't think the Israelis or the Saudis are going to respect the framework agreement.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
37. ....from the article.
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

“We would like to be friends with other nations,” she said. “Since the revolution, we’ve had problems with many countries. We had so many enemies. But people are alike. Now we’re on better terms with the world and that’s a good thing. People are tired of constantly being at odds with other countries. I’m happy for myself, for my children and for my grandchildren.”

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
48. The guy in that photo
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:15 AM
Apr 2015

declared war on the nazis a full two and a half years while the United States sat on its hands, hidebound by your isolationist liberals and conservatives alike.

Cha

(297,156 posts)
41. Pres Obama reading repub tweets on Iran deal..
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:14 PM
Apr 2015

WesleyZ3 @50th_President
Follow
Obama reading Conservatives tweets.
#IranTalks
8:59 AM - 2 Apr 2015 404 Retweets 532 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/04/02/happy-5th-birthday-west-wing-week/

Cha

(297,156 posts)
61. Mahalo and Aloha from Kauai, Surya! Happiness in Iran..
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:44 AM
Apr 2015

Reddit Pics @redditpicsbot
Follow
Pictures from Iran after the nuclear deal via /r/pics http://ift.tt/1NEZX2w #pics
11:47 AM - 2 Apr 2015 38 Retweets 10 favorites


John Kerry ✔ @JohnKerry
Follow
The understanding we’ve reached is a solid foundation for the good deal we seek: http://go.usa.gov/3jPWk #IranDeal
9:30 AM - 2 Apr 2015 Laurent Fabius and 4 others
1,120 Retweets 1,204 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/04/02/a-tweet-or-two-276





 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
42. Let's hope this brings freedom to Women and minorities in Iran!
Thu Apr 2, 2015, 11:25 PM
Apr 2015

No more hate and subjugation of women and minorities in Iran.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
68. If, as all peace-loving people must hope, this deal brings
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:38 AM
Apr 2015

Last edited Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Iran back into the international community of nations and encourages further opening in Iranian society, things can only get better.

There are many Iranian feminists fighting the good fight, against odds that we can't imagine.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
46. Which they never did
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:06 AM
Apr 2015

and even if the remark that "Israel should be consigned to history" should be interpreted as a threat to use nuclear weapons, Israel has done plenty of sabre rattling of its own:-

"Israel is not the only country that can be wiped off the map" - Shimon Peres

"We're going to send Lebanon back to the Stone Age"

"A new Amalek (Iran) is arising" - Benjamin Netanyahu (in the Old Testament, God commands the Jews to commit genocide against the nation of Amalek)

The difference is that Israel has 400 multi megaton nuclear warheads and Iran has none.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
52. What color is the sky in this revised world we are now living in?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:24 AM
Apr 2015

Say, what's the status of gays in your new favorite place?

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
70. Whats the status of gays in yours?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 08:48 AM
Apr 2015

Moreover, what is the only country to have used nuclear weapons against a civilian population? What country has staged over seventy armed interventions since the second world war? What country dumped millions of tons of poison on impoverished south east nations, bequeathing them the eternal legacy of birth defects such as these:-



Iran hasn't waged a war of aggression since the time of Darius the Great. They refused to use chemical weapons even in the face of chemical attacks waged against them by Saddam Hussein, chemical weapons that were tenderly provided to the Iraqis by...guess who?

Iran would have to wage bloody war across five continents for a generation to even dream of having the sort of blood on its hands that the United States does.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
76. I feel like I'm reading Red State.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:33 PM
Apr 2015

Israel constantly threatens Iran. They are still to this very day threatening to Bomb Iran. Like yesterday. I am amused that you have no problem with Israeli warmongering against Iran.
If you love war so much you should check out Likud. They love talking about bombing innocent people in Iran.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
51. Or what?
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:22 AM
Apr 2015

Am I now supposed to forget that Iran has repeatedly and regularly threatened to annihilate Israel, when Israel could have turned Iran to glass at the flick of a wrist?

Am I supposed to ignore the 'Death to America' chants of A FEW DAYS AGO, or did that also suddenly not happen in the new Gumdrop Lane Extra Special Happy Doubleplus Lovely Fantasy Universe I'm supposed to live in?

Are you really that simpleminded, that one has to demand war on Iran or drink this Persian Kool Aid you're pouring down your own throat?

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
53. No, I'm not simpleminded. And I'm not a warmonger either.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:25 AM
Apr 2015

But really, when you find yourself posting in favor of more war and bloodshed, why don't you leave the rest of us out of it? If you really want it that badly, you work on it. Join the military. Work for a defense contractor. Go to the Middle East and play soldier of fortune. But leave the rest of us out of it. Millions of us are sick of the perverse wars that a few bad actors worship.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
54. Show me where I want war, or accept that you're a RW-style binary thinker.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:28 AM
Apr 2015


Won't hold my breath. Enjoy your homophobic, woman-hating theocratic buddies.
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
55. Do you know what irony is? Accusing someone of binary thinking, while using binary terms.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:37 AM
Apr 2015

You do know what binary thinking is, right? And are you cognizant of the fact that in your accusation, you laid out binary terms? You'll get better at this one of these days, I'm sure.

Until then, I'll go enjoy my homophobic, woman-hating theocratic buddies while you make common cause with right-wing fuckstain peace-hating, war-worshipping Republican filth like John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and Benjamin Netanyahu. I make a habit of not taking correction from those to the right of me. You're very far to the right of me, off in the exact same direction as those you're finding so much agreement with. As such, I can gain no value at all from you. Good evening.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
56. Meh, whatever.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:39 AM
Apr 2015

I will let you trust Iran as its leaders chant for your death and mine.

Oh, but wait - that didn't happen. That was yet another mistranslation, right?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
65. Here, here, Disgustipated!...Just logged on from Europe this morning to find
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 03:10 AM
Apr 2015

this back and forth between you and Dreamer Tatum.

Excellent repost to his RW, reactionary naysaying.

Thanks for taking him/her on. I was sleeping so missed his flagrant fly-by attack.

Why don't you start another OP with your arguments from here?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
63. God love him - he just keeps pushing on and doing the right thing...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:53 AM
Apr 2015

Lucky we are to have such a man as this, at this time.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,310 posts)
73. Iran nuclear talks: Rouhani vows to abide by deal
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 11:58 AM
Apr 2015
Iran's president has vowed it will abide by the terms of the preliminary nuclear agreement it signed with six world powers, so long as they do too.

"The world must know that we do not intend to cheat," Hassan Rouhani said in a televised address to the nation.

But Mr Rouhani warned that Iran would have other options if world powers "one day decide to follow a different path".
...
"If the other side acts on its promises, Iran will abide by its promises. If, however, they one day decide to follow a different path, our nation too will be always free to make (another) choice."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-32176566

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
74. But, but, that doesn't fit with the warmongers' narrative at all...
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:12 PM
Apr 2015

Are you certain? The Beeb may have jumped the gun. 'Librul' Beeb journalists, can't trust 'em.

IBEWVET

(217 posts)
77. I have yet
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:33 PM
Apr 2015

to hear the terms of the deal. Before we cheer to much maybe we should see what was promised by who.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
79. 'GIVE IT A CHANCE'...said brother Lennon. ;)
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:01 PM
Apr 2015

As a former English teacher, I beg your leave to point out a grammatical bête noire of mine:

To whom
Whom: objective case, object of the preposition 'by'

Who: subjective case, subject of the sentence, 'Who is promising what to whom'?

Sorry, but on occasion my grammar instincts cannot be suppressed.





IBEWVET

(217 posts)
81. I am ashamed
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 01:53 PM
Apr 2015

and my mother was an english teacher. What can I say, I am getting old and feeble. Also, I have read some details, sounds pretty good.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
78. That selfie of that man standing infront of the TV with Our President ....
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 12:58 PM
Apr 2015

Makes my heart overflow with joy.... infact, that joy starts dripping out of my eyes.

Peace!

I am so proud of John Kerry and President Obama.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
84. Any Step For Peace Is A Good Step
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 02:56 PM
Apr 2015

And any blow to the massive MI complex is cause to celebrate. Eisenhower get6s credit for seeing the future on this - too bad we paid no attention to his sober warning in early 1961.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
90. People now need to realize the conflict goes deeper than a nuclear program.
Fri Apr 3, 2015, 07:14 PM
Apr 2015

The Saudis and Iranians are locked into a widening proxy war now playing out in in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. The Pakistanis, Egyptians and other gulf countries have allied with the Saudis. It is now a ME hegemonic conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran. Left unattended, this agreement is simply a calm before larger storm...a full regional ME war.

With western powers backing out of the region, Sykes-Picot is truly dead and the borders will rearrange through conflict unless action is taken.

To avert war, there needs to be a regional summit of ME leaders convened, including Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Unless we get them around a table talking, I still have fear for their future.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
93. See Regime Change!
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 08:08 AM
Apr 2015

Its on the faces of the Iranian people. They don't hate America. They want peace, freedom and t be left alone. If we want to change Iran, help the Iranians do it themselves. Lifting sanctions will improve their lives and they want change! The Iranian people are not our enemy! Obama is a hero TO THE WORLD!

madville

(7,408 posts)
96. Call me pessimistic but I just don't see
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:26 AM
Apr 2015

Iran actually following through with full access for inspectors or agreeing to any deal where sanctions are not lifted immediately.

All these victory laps seem premature when many of the key points have yet to be finalized and Iran's chief negotiator calls President Obama a liar immediately after the Rose Garden speech.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
98. Not all Iranians. "Iran hardliners, Israel and US Republicans criticize the nuclear deal."
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:33 AM
Apr 2015

Hardliners in Iran have criticized the preliminary agreement with world powers on their country’s nuclear program. The framework deal, the full details of which have still to be agreed, will see Iran curb sensitive nuclear activities in return for relief from sanctions.

Hossein Shariatmadari, an adviser to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said Iran had exchanged its “saddled horse” for one with a “broken bridle”. But many people have been celebrating the deal on the streets of Tehran.

Another conservative analyst, Mehdi Mohammadi, called the deal “in no way balanced”. He told Fars that it represented a “disaster for Fordo”, the underground nuclear facility that will remain open but not used for enriching uranium.

Israel meanwhile called it “a step in a very, very dangerous direction”. Government spokesman Mark Regev said Iran would be left with an expansive nuclear infrastructure and able to pursue what he alleged was its “single goal” of developing a nuclear weapon.


A cartoon published in The Economist portrays US President Barack Obama shackled to an
Israeli controlled US Congress. Speaker John Boehner who is now in Israel invited Israeli PM
Netanyahu to speak about an Iran deal at a joint session despite objections from the White House .
Similarly , the Iranian hardliners in this Cartoon led by their Supreme leader are also trying
to prevent their president Rouhani from shaking hands with Obama


http://yalibnan.com/2015/04/03/iran-hardliners-israel-and-us-republicans-criticize-the-nuclear-deal/

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
99. I was referring to the poster's implied criticism of the
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 10:40 AM
Apr 2015

'victory lap' on this board.

Not to the world in its entirety.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
104. And I was being facetious. The particular Iranians and Americans (and Mr. Netanyahu) who oppose this
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:06 PM
Apr 2015

are the predictable ones who view diplomatic solutions as a sign of weakness. Only bombing or invasions are signs of strength and appearing to be 'strong' is all they want to achieve in foreign policy.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
105. Well, I never, here I was getting ruffled feathers,
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 12:13 PM
Apr 2015

all the time it was intended as .

Thanks pampango, I get it now!

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
107. I think its a bad deal
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 07:51 AM
Apr 2015

for Iran
The Israelis seem to threaten to drop bombs on these people daily, as well as fucking senators and congress slime in the USA
if anything the world powers should give them a few as a deterrent against Israeli aggression

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
108. Good for them.
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 11:22 AM
Apr 2015

They want peace.

Now we need to make an honest examination of our own self-serving conduct in the region. Without doing so, 'peace' will be short-lived.

 

clg311

(119 posts)
110. The real threat was the sanctions...
Sun Apr 5, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

not the phony threat from Iran. We owe Iran reparations for the damage we have done.

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