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brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:17 PM Apr 2015

Poll of African-American voters gives Rahm 10-point lead over Garcia

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

A new election poll shows Mayor Rahm Emanuel with a 10-percentage-point lead among African-American voters.

The poll of 1,003 registered voters, conducted for the Chicago Defender and WVON radio, has Emanuel at 46 percent and Jesus “Chuy” Garcia at 36 percent, with 18 percent undecided.

Computer-assisted telephone interviews were conducted March 25-26, with a mix of about 60 percent landline phones and 40 percent mobile phones. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.


Read more: http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/7/71/488681/poll-shows-rahm-10-point-lead-garcia



Yesterday, I was told that the Chicago Tribune couldn't be trusted and that thepoll was intentionally skewed. Can't wait to hear the excuse for today.
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Poll of African-American voters gives Rahm 10-point lead over Garcia (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2015 OP
Poll Truthers, on the right and left, make me chuckle./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #1
i Don't like Rahm much JI7 Apr 2015 #7
I knew Garcia was toast when Howard Dean endorsed him nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #2
I believe rahm is leading among hispanics also JI7 Apr 2015 #3
I believe the African American and Latino numbers are reversed, thus cancelling each other out. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #4
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/03/rahm-emanuels-fake-poll.html donnasgirl Apr 2015 #5
I might be persuaded if... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #9
As i stated i can hope, donnasgirl Apr 2015 #16
Nothing wrong with hope... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #17
Well if i can hope donnasgirl Apr 2015 #18
FIXED DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #19
Agreed donnasgirl Apr 2015 #20
Good luck to you...You have Jesus ! on your side./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #21
I knew Garcia was toast when he became popular cosmicone Apr 2015 #6
DU is a great contra-indicator./NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #11
... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #22
People are stupid... SoapBox Apr 2015 #8
these are people who actually live there JI7 Apr 2015 #10
Ask your interlocutor what are the most important issues in the race without googling them... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #12
Posted without verbal comment ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #23
I know huh? Who needs republican bigots when we have DU n/t cosmicone Apr 2015 #25
I'm sure (hoping like hell) he/she didn't mean it in that way ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #26
I suspect he isn't a bigot... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #28
Yawn ;~( 10 points from 1000 people pfft Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #13
If the sample is too small... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #15
What "inference" has been drawn? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #27
How can you make inferences from a sample that you suggested is not robust enough? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #29
lol, yeah the inferences thing again Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #32
Emanuel won all of the AA wards in the February primary. former9thward Apr 2015 #14
Too much money going to Rahmadon... Thespian2 Apr 2015 #24
"Nobody ever went broke sulphurdunn Apr 2015 #30
Is the Chicago Tribune a right-wing paper? Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #31
Is the Chicago Defender a right wing paper? brooklynite Apr 2015 #33

JI7

(89,244 posts)
7. i Don't like Rahm much
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:48 PM
Apr 2015

But this denying reality just makes people look stupid.

I wonder if people will claim these are third way Dlc one percenters

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. I believe the African American and Latino numbers are reversed, thus cancelling each other out.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:37 PM
Apr 2015

Rahm's huge lead comes from his 3-1 advantage among white voters.

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
5. http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/03/rahm-emanuels-fake-poll.html
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:40 PM
Apr 2015

I believe Sir Rahmington will lose this election, this is the third article I have read this week. At least I hope so

donnasgirl

(656 posts)
16. As i stated i can hope,
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:09 PM
Apr 2015

But David Schaffer is saying that the challenger’s internal polling is showing a Garcia win but anything can happen in Politics I guess.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
17. Nothing wrong with hope...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:13 PM
Apr 2015

I don't have a dog in this fight as I have extraordinary limited knowledge of Chicago politics... I can only go by what I observe and my observation suggests Rahm is going to beat Chuy.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. People are stupid...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:51 PM
Apr 2015

They probably think everything is just good...

Because they are too busy drooling, slack-jawed, while playing games or texting.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. Ask your interlocutor what are the most important issues in the race without googling them...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 02:57 PM
Apr 2015

I sure can't ...That's why I am refraining from commenting on the choices.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
23. Posted without verbal comment ...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:40 PM
Apr 2015

Thread Title:

Poll of African-American voters gives Rahm 10-point lead over Garcia


DUer response:

People are stupid...They probably think everything is just good...

Because they are too busy drooling, slack-jawed, while playing games or texting.


DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
28. I suspect he isn't a bigot...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:30 PM
Apr 2015

I suspect he isn't a bigot, however I strongly believe he quickly saw the title, saw that real people disagree with him and the DU echo chamber, and consequently they must be stupid...

This site is very much an echo chamber as its nutty internet counterpart on the right.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
13. Yawn ;~( 10 points from 1000 people pfft
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:03 PM
Apr 2015
http://www.wvon.com/wvon-chicago-defender-2015-mayoral-poll-results/



The age demographics
are the most interesting.

Chuy gets more young votes
and the undecided tend to be young.

But notice also, the poll uses
"Computer Assisted Telephone Interviews"
the least reliable of polls.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
15. If the sample is too small...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:07 PM
Apr 2015

If the sample is too small, ergo:


Yawn ;~( 10 points from 1000 people pfft)

-Cosmic Kitten



Why are you even making inferences from them:



The age demographics
are the most interesting.

Chuy gets more young votes
and the undecided tend to be young.

But notice also, the poll uses
"Computer Assisted Telephone Interviews"
the least reliable of polls.

-Cosmic Kitten

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
27. What "inference" has been drawn?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:23 PM
Apr 2015

A poll of a tiny demographic
isn't a valid gauge of
a huge population.

However, of those who
did respond the age
cross tabs are interesting.

No inference,
just an observation

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. How can you make inferences from a sample that you suggested is not robust enough?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 04:35 PM
Apr 2015

And then you further divided the sample the sample you suggested wasn't robust enough thus making it more useless...


All I know is the evidence suggests Rahm is going to beat Chuy and beat him by a comfortable margin and the evidence is becoming cumulative.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
14. Emanuel won all of the AA wards in the February primary.
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:05 PM
Apr 2015

And that was when there were AA candidates in the race. No surprise at his lead now.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
24. Too much money going to Rahmadon...
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 03:59 PM
Apr 2015

If this election can be stolen from Garcia, it will be. Money don't like to lose.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
31. Is the Chicago Tribune a right-wing paper?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 05:50 PM
Apr 2015

Interesting read on the
Chicago Tribune.

I'm interested in the poll
results from the previous
Chicago elections cited.

http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/03/rahm-emanuels-fake-poll.html

Back to the right-wing Tribune for a minute. The brass there have a well-known and well-documented bias against progressive candidates. Its history of so-called "independent polling" reflects that regressive Republican bias. Whether it was the insurgent mayoral campaign of Jane Byrne in 1979 or the revolutionary mayoral victory of Harold Washington over the Chicago machine in 1983 or Pat Quinn's remarkable win over Bill Brady in the face of a Republican tide in the 2010 gubernatorial race-- the Tribune poll never had ANY of these candidates in the lead, EVER!

Each of them-- Jane Byrne, Harold Washington and Pat Quinn, a woman, an African-American, and a progressive independent, respectively-- were, at this point in their respective campaigns, between 20 and 30 points behind their Tribune-backed and endorsed opponent.

That's the pattern-- try to smother the progressive candidate with negative "polls." That's the playbook of the Radical Right. Hide the truth.

brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
33. Is the Chicago Defender a right wing paper?
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 09:55 PM
Apr 2015
The Chicago Defender is a Chicago-based weekly newspaper founded in 1905 by an African American for primarily African-American readers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicago_Defender


Now, when Emanuel wins on Tuesday, as EVERY poll has indicated he will, that'll mean the voting was rigged as well as all the polls, right?
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