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Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:12 PM

Religious broadcaster warns Christians to ‘prepare for martyrdom’ if Supreme Court legalizes gay mar

Source: Raw Story

Sandy Rios, director of governmental affairs for the American Family Association and host of a daily radio program, did not specify what she meant by that – but her context was clear.

“Homosexual marriage is going to bring about the tip of the spear of the battle we’re going to face,” Rios said Thursday to a gathering of religious right activists and pastors.

“In Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years, the stories would make the hair stand up on the back of your neck,” she said, although she did not share any of those hair-raising examples.

She told the Christian activists to “stop playing it safe,” telling them the Bible encouraged bold action.

“You must prepare for martyrdom,” Rios said. “I don’t know what it’s going to look like, but it’s coming.”


Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/religious-broadcaster-warns-christians-to-prepare-for-martyrdom-if-supreme-court-legalizes-gay-marriage/



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Reply Religious broadcaster warns Christians to ‘prepare for martyrdom’ if Supreme Court legalizes gay mar (Original post)
azurnoir Mar 2015 OP
blm Mar 2015 #1
roguevalley Mar 2015 #52
leftofcool Mar 2015 #2
jberryhill Mar 2015 #3
riqster Mar 2015 #8
leftofcool Mar 2015 #43
trusty elf Mar 2015 #63
mountain grammy Mar 2015 #4
arcane1 Mar 2015 #13
safeinOhio Mar 2015 #5
Jamastiene Mar 2015 #82
d_legendary1 Mar 2015 #6
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #7
azurnoir Mar 2015 #9
Cryptoad Mar 2015 #16
Lucky Luciano Mar 2015 #10
TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #11
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #17
android fan Mar 2015 #68
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drm604 Mar 2015 #14
Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #19
drm604 Mar 2015 #24
sir pball Mar 2015 #56
drm604 Mar 2015 #60
Thor_MN Mar 2015 #86
Cryptoad Mar 2015 #15
KansDem Mar 2015 #18
TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #20
niyad Mar 2015 #26
Panich52 Mar 2015 #33
niyad Mar 2015 #65
Paulie Mar 2015 #38
rpannier Mar 2015 #42
TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #50
Jim Lane Mar 2015 #49
Marrah_G Mar 2015 #70
waddirum Mar 2015 #74
YOHABLO Mar 2015 #21
azurnoir Mar 2015 #23
Jamastiene Mar 2015 #83
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Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #27
C_U_L8R Mar 2015 #28
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:16 PM

1. These nut cases have spent the last 2 decades arming themselves to the teeth

because of the constant doomsday prophecies that compel their narrative. No one ever bothered to explain to them the difference between 'prophecy' and 'self-fulfilling prophecy'.

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Response to blm (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:54 PM

52. I hope she goes first.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:16 PM

2. Martyrdom, eh?

As in? Hanging oneself upside down on a cross? Oh, I got it! Wondering in the desert without food and water, right?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:19 PM

3. Zookeepers warn lions not to overeat

 

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:27 PM

8. ...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:16 PM

43. Funny!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 03:03 AM

63. .........

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:23 PM

4. Martyrdom? WTF does that ever mean?

suicide bombings? Tell us more Sandy...

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:30 PM

13. It translates to "increased tithing" n/t

 

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:24 PM

5. Here I thought the Christian Bible encouraged

us to forgive others as we wished to be forgiven and to judge not, least we be judged.

I must have read it wrong.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:08 AM

82. Nah, the only part that bunch follows is the part that tells them to hate gay people.

The rest of the rules in there are completely optional. The only sin left is being gay, according to them. Everything else is A-ok.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:25 PM

6. This is up there with "Obama's coming for your gunz!!!!"

After sending their members in a panic then they ask for collections in order to stop the threat of homersexuality from invading their lives. Rinse and repeat.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:26 PM

7. "American Christian Mullah"

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:28 PM

9. Sounds like a Fox mini-series

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:35 PM

16. Hope they release it,,,,,

all at one time so I can binge watch!

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:28 PM

10. I heard the Syria/Iraq border area is nice this time of year.

They can go visit and be martyred.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:28 PM

11. $10 says she's not one of the 72 virgins.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:35 PM

17. $20 she gets turned away at The Pearly Gates?

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 03:21 PM

68. 50 says that she goes the wrong way

 

and goes to Meaven.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:29 PM

12. They said the same thing about interracial marriage, I bet.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:32 PM

14. This seems to be bordering on advocating religious terrorism.

I'm not sure if she's stepped over the line legally but she's awful close.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:36 PM

19. There is no line in America, is there? If there was, it may have been moved by the click mad media. Free speech??

"Incitement to violence to overthrow the government"?

This is the same as saying prepare to die quietly? No, it is a message to arm yourselves against the killing government....seems more than close to the legal line.

Hope there is an opening on the FBI home visit calendar.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:40 PM

24. Free speech does not protect someone who urges immediate violence.

The 1st amendment does not protect everything and anything.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:51 PM

56. Current US jurisprudence is the "Brandenburg test"

Even openly advocating violence is OK as long as you aren't in a situation where you're attempting to, and also have a reasonable chance of, inciting criminal acts:

the constitutional guarantees of free speech and free press do not permit a State to forbid or proscribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.


It's a very high bar to meet, and I'm OK with that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio

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Response to sir pball (Reply #56)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:42 PM

60. Which is basically what I said.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #60)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 11:44 AM

86. Except in a lot more detail

 

and much more informative.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:32 PM

15. I guess ,,,

these quasi GOP Christians skipped over all that Jesus said about not judging others or they have decided He didnt really mean what He Said, heh?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:36 PM

18. Is this comparable to Sharron Angle's "2nd Amendment remedies?"


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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:38 PM

20. What "Massachusetts hair raising stories" is this nitwit talking about?

Oh, the ones that the little voices in her head told her.

Got it.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:44 PM

26. you notice she did not provide any examples. apparently even the voices aren't talking

to her.

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Response to niyad (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:16 PM

33. Oh, they're talking to her, just in a language she doesn't understand with words like

'tolerance,' 'civil rights,' 'fairness'...

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Response to Panich52 (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:04 PM

65. I know, most definitely a very foreign language.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:54 PM

38. Snow in winter

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:05 PM

42. They elected a Republican governor

That makes my hair stand up a little more

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Response to rpannier (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:27 PM

50. ..who just filed a brief with the SCOTUS supporting gay marriage,

so it ain't all bad.

He really pissed off the right wingers (what few there are of the them) in his own party.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:21 PM

49. Some same-sex couples there have gotten divorced.

 

They were allowed to marry, they thought they'd found The One that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives with, but after a while it didn't work out and they split up. Many of them experienced a lot of heartache over the whole process.

You know, sort of the way some straight people do.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:51 PM

70. I live here and I havent a clue what she means

There has been no effect from marriage equality here except for an increased sense of security and happiness for our LGBT citizens....

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 12:16 AM

74. Oh.... you know....

Adam and Steve got "gay married", settled down in the ex-urbs, adopted some kids, rescued some pets, got a netflix subscription, joined the Freemasons, joined a church, got old...

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:38 PM

21. Martyrdom, hmm perhaps they're going to strap explosives to themselves and show up at gay weddings.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:40 PM

23. Don't give them any idea's there's enough wacko's out there

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #23)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:10 AM

83. Exactly.

I wouldn't put something like that past a lot of them. They are downright dangerous in my area.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:39 PM

22. Please. Terminate yourselves. Make the world a better place. nt

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:43 PM

25. self-immolation is the only thing I can see, since nobody is actually persecuting them.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:44 PM

27. HUUUMMMM, as soon as they realize Jesus loved everyone then they can blame him.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:46 PM

28. Yet another Jihad

And should be treated as one.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:58 PM

29. More proof that she's living in the dark ages - doing battle with.....spears?

Where do they find these idiots?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:02 PM

30. Every day, straight folks serve up the hate, preachers, politicians, pop stars.

 

No matter how awful the rhetoric, the straights gather to defend them.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:02 PM

31. FALSE PROPHETS

 

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:36 PM

45. But real profits.

 

I can't imagine why people toss money at junk like this, but they do...

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:04 PM

32. http://www.2flashgames.com/mp/2006_Jesus_Camp/movieposter.jpg

 




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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:59 PM

40. Looks like child abuse to me. (nt)

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:53 PM

71. That was a very un-nerving movie

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:28 PM

34. Is Sandy Rios trying to incite violent, murderous behaviour

in others because she can't handle the idea of gay people being treated fairly and equally?

Sounds like it.

I wonder if the hypocritical right wing will harass her for suggesting violence the way they do when they try to frame Al Sharpton for the violence done by and inspired by the Ferguson Police Dept's actions?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:47 PM

35. I am Zorra, all powerful Witch Goddess of Teh Gay, who will part the seas

and martyr the RW Pseudo Christians of the world simply by legally marrying my girlfriend!!!



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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:48 PM

36. will she be in the front lines??? ha ha doubt it!!

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:49 PM

37. Wrap his head in a turban and call hiwm ayatollah

He has already issued his first fatwa

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:59 PM

39. Nice dog whistle

Doom and gloom without specifics - that lets every nutjob make up their own 'disaster' scenario.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:03 PM

41. All right, that's quite enough. Would someone let out the lions?! (nt)

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Response to paleotn (Reply #41)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:17 AM

84. I don't think there are enough lions left, unfortunately.

Unless we can find a way to round them up and feed them directly to the last few lions that are left, I doubt we'll get the chance. I wish I was rich and a DNA expect. I would try to save at least a good sample of lion DNA in case the human species ever wakes up and realizes that these crackpots NEED to be fed to lions. It is long past due.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:32 PM

44. “In Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years..." - is this true?

If so, well done, Massachusetts!!!!! Excellent work.

Here in The Netherlands, gay marriage has been legal since 2001. Amazingly, we've survived rather well.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 07:43 PM

46. Ha! Trains already left the station, bub. nt

 

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:06 PM

47. Wow, what paranoia. Hey, anyone know where I can get a good deal on a guillotine? n/t

 

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #47)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:02 AM

78. You have to make your own, but they're not difficult

The only thing that's really going to give you trouble is the blade, but any machine shop worthy of the name can knock out a guillotine blade in a couple of hours.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #78)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:59 AM

79. There have to have been advances in all these hundreds of years, yes?

 


I wonder if I can get a non-stick blade? I was thinking stainless, but that could be prohibitively expensive.

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Response to jtuck004 (Reply #79)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 06:17 AM

80. metalsdepot.com has some 1" thick aluminum plate

I think a 2' x 4' plate would be just dandy...you could cut it diagonally and have two blades. And I think you're going to need two; once you get a guillotine and start using it you'll really like it and want another one.

Given that, PLEASE sharpen it with a belt sander instead of a grinding wheel; non sparking metal can't be ground on an abrasive wheel because it'll clog and eventually explode.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:13 PM

48. After you, sweetie. Remember, the first Christian gets the hungriest lion.

Heh.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:32 PM

51. They should all gather at local sports arenas

and martyr themselves.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 08:55 PM

53. As long as they also let them know that martyrs don't fight back.

It's one of the characteristics.

Had Joan of Arc been killed on the battlefield, she'd have been just one more dead would-be rebel.

Taken by the English and executed at Rouen, she became a martyr.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #53)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:55 PM

73. If she'd died in battle,

she'd still be the hero who got Charles the Wuss to Rheims to be crowned.

She wouldn't be a canonized saint, though.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:05 PM

54. common theme of martyrdom in religious fanatism

mind you those calling for it don't seem to go out and get it themselves - only other people

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 09:24 PM

55. Anyone know where I can buy ...

... a "DIY Persecution Kit" to send to this idiot?

Contains two pre-cut wooden beams, a bag of over-sized nails, and a hammer. (Crown of thorns available with deluxe kit only.)

I wouldn't want her to be found wanting when the crucifixions begin.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #55)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:00 PM

57. Order soon to beat the Easter rush. Amazon Prime is the best bet.

Hi, Nance.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #57)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:20 PM

58. Thanks for the heads-up!

Checked out Home Depot and Lowe's earlier this week, but apparently they sold out during Lent, along with the "Sackcloth & Ashes X-treme" kits and the "Christians v Lions" video games.









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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #58)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:42 AM

64. I had ruled out Home Depot and Lowe's,

simply because taking two landscape timbers and fashioning them into a "cross" configuration without a kit with detailed instructions or a YouTube video would be a daunting task for these folks.

Also, the idea of building something so big and bulky while one's hands are clasped in a perpetual state of prayer could be a problem.

DIY isn't for everyone. Folks like Ms. Rios should leave it to their paid staffers.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 10:25 PM

59. Batshit insane

 

I mean yeah two gay men or women getting married equals instant death to my fellow christians!

Teh STOOPID IT HURTS!

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:21 PM

61. Terrorist. Pick her ass up before she kills someone.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:07 AM

62. What is the fictional analogy here, of the princess yapping at her servants,

 

when it starts raining or when the leaves start turning color in autumn, "Don't just stand there; DO something!"? Help me here, folks.... ? The Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 12:28 PM

66. As a former evangelical Christian

 

martyrdom usually referenced events occurring after some miraculous end times prophesies that I know will never occur. I figure that's the one reason our Christian crazies aren't part of any massive organized "jihad" like what you see among middle east extremists yet. Unfortunately, there's still more than enough vague fear mongering like this to inspire plenty of lone wolf lunatics.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 03:07 PM

67. Goodidea, Christians. I suggest self-immolation. Have at it!

 

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 11:21 PM

69. Sounds good to me

 

I'm down with it

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 11:54 AM

72. It's ok, doubtless religion has nothing to do with this

Since according to the DU faithapologists, religion is completely disconnected from any negative actions or opinions, even when those responsible say they are motivated by religion and act accordingly.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:10 AM

75. Doesn't make sense

“Homosexual marriage is going to bring about the tip of the spear of the battle we’re going to face,”

Massachusetts, where homosexual marriage has been legal for 10 years


Then shouldn't the "battle" have been going on for ten years now?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:17 AM

76. So she wants to be a Republican Presdential candidate...

...why else would one want to wave their +2 Spear of Stupid around for all to see?

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:59 AM

77. I really need to hear her "hair raising examples"

so I can.....you know, make an informed decision

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:06 AM

81. I hope it involves Kool Aid, aka Jim Jones style.

I'm fucking sick of their bullshit. I hope they off themselves and leave the rest of us alone.

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Response to azurnoir (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:08 AM

85. Gay marriage kills Christians? Who knew?

This woman has no clue about what it means to be a Christian martyr.

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