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Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:40 PM

The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'

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Source: The Guardian

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.




Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site



Strange, exposed by a source in London... very sad, very ugly.. for U.S.A, and Chicago
......Now also on front page of Huff Post..

If Mayor Rahm Emanuel does not get past 50% in today's election, this will really hurt him. Yes, there is an election today in Chicago. He needs 50% to avoid a run-off. Then there will be another election in 4 -6 weeks. Then this secret detention center will be "the issue"
As of 1pm Eastern Time..none of this has been reported in any Chicago newspapers.

This is a link at Medaiate.... Very similar, but a little different take on this.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/chicago-police-reportedly-used-gitmo-style-black-site-to-illegally-detain-citizens/

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Reply The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site' (Original post)
Stuart G Feb 2015 OP
Dems to Win Feb 2015 #1
DeSwiss Feb 2015 #2
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #14
Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #24
phantom power Feb 2015 #3
KamaAina Feb 2015 #4
Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2015 #5
Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #6
Stuart G Feb 2015 #8
Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #17
Downwinder Feb 2015 #29
deurbano Feb 2015 #9
Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #15
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #7
CanonRay Feb 2015 #19
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #26
CanonRay Feb 2015 #33
Downwinder Feb 2015 #30
Faux pas Feb 2015 #10
nilram Feb 2015 #25
blackspade Feb 2015 #11
El Shaman Feb 2015 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #13
damnedifIknow Feb 2015 #16
99th_Monkey Feb 2015 #18
SoapBox Feb 2015 #20
salin Feb 2015 #21
McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #22
Fairgo Feb 2015 #23
blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #27
Dawson Leery Feb 2015 #28
Judi Lynn Feb 2015 #31
DeSwiss Feb 2015 #34
Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #32
Adrahil Feb 2015 #35
JEB Feb 2015 #36
Stuart G Feb 2015 #37
DeSwiss Feb 2015 #39
Nihil Feb 2015 #40
Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #38

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:47 PM

1. Gitmo on Lake Michigan

 

Hell will freeze over before the Chicago Tribune will do investigative reporting about abuse in the police department.

Thanks for posting this story. I was coming here to post the link, but you were quicker.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:51 PM

2. K&R

 

- Don't worry, I'm sure the Dept. of Justice will be on it just as soon as they can decide if any laws were broken or if it's just a part of the culture of the institution......

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:53 PM

14. No worries,....they're only doing it to the black sheep.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:58 PM

24. +1000

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:52 PM

3. recommend

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:04 PM

4. Got police state?

 

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:04 PM

5. Can't beat confessions out of 'em at the precinct house, can't use black sites...what's a cop to do?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:07 PM

6. Every time a story like this pops up

 

I see it once again as confirmation that we live in a de facto police state. Every time I point this out, some people get upset and tell me I am being "alarmist", "hyperbolic" etc, and the mere fact that I can express such a view means we don't live in a police state.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:21 PM

8. This story confirms your view.

Sadly, I would add this. Is there a possibility that the Guardian has made some kind of error? I cannot believe that, but this is so awful, that I would at least raise the question. So awful and ugly that it turns my stomach. What kind of country is this? But, if this is true, I guess you have a valid viewpoint.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:57 PM

17. Read the story

 

it is very long and detailed, so I don't see an error. The CPD refuses to answer questions about the place.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:28 PM

9. Just because the situation is not as "bad as it could be" doesn't mean there is no cause for alarm.

I don't understand how anyone could fail to understand that the time to reverse the trend is before the situation develops to an even more extreme state.

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Response to deurbano (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:56 PM

15. Agreed,

 

their view seems to be that until people are marching about in spiffy Hugo Boss uniforms, everything is fine.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:16 PM

7. I blame the Supreme Court which has pretty much given the police more and more leeway

in respecting our constitutional rights.

Sounds like Chicago is a police state.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:06 PM

19. I grew up there and learned early

to be afraid of the Chicago cops. We all were as teenagers. The stories were rampant of beatings, phony charges, etc, but of course nobody ever looked into it. The 1968 riots were not surprise to any of us...I was 17 at the time.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:13 PM

26. It's an awful city. Cold and windy and miserable. I don't understand why people choose to live

there if they can live anywhere else. I remember that it had a good art museum.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 05:01 PM

33. I had to move back for work as an adult

for 18 months, and bought a condo near the lake, and really enjoyed it. I could take the bus to the Cubs games, walk or bike the lakefront, a block from Lincoln Park, even used to bike to work. Great restaurants. It has its charms, but has a pretty seamy side as well, I admit. The art museum and the natural history museum are both terrific.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:41 PM

30. It goes back to the Haymarket Affair and before then.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:37 PM

10. Kickin'

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:02 PM

25. ditto

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:43 PM

11. And this was the slippery slope that liberals warned about.

When you start down the road to fascism, it is hard to put the breaks on when you have a government run by spineless, corrupt, and bought politicians and their lackeys.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:43 PM

12. Hey, Mabel better get the pitch fork and pick ax out.

I'm a gonna need to sharpen em a bit!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:50 PM

13. Now watch Conservative Libertarians claim this is PROOF of "Liberal Fascism".

 

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:57 PM

16. And these people are supposed to be Americans?

Wear the flag on their uniform and such. My ass they're Americans.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:58 PM

18. BIG K&R! I saw this earlier today and was going to post it.

 

but you beat me to it. Not that it's good news, but it's an important find.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:07 PM

20. America has lost it's way.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:27 PM

21. chilling

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:31 PM

22. Yawn. Dog bites man. Why is this news?

Oh, yes. Because Obama's man is fighting to keep his job.

Calling Chicago police "brutal" and LAPD "corrupt" is like saying the sky is blue.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:41 PM

23. Tripwire

Because it represents a quantum shift from bad actors to policy.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:23 PM

27. I'm sure the "Constitutional scholar" from Chicago and his DOJ will be on this in 3 - 2 - 1 ...

 



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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:29 PM

28. It is times such as these that ISIS does not seem to be a threat to cause much alarm.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:14 PM

31. This should not be allowed to slip back out of the national spotlight. Thanks, Stuart G. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 05:28 PM

34. Well, I'm sure they'll move.

 

- Because everyone knows where the undercover Chi-town cops hang out now. But I'm sure someone will investigate. Just as soon as they've given Chicago sufficient time to destroy all the evidence of it's previous existence.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 04:25 PM

32. Sickening beyond words. n/t

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 05:55 PM

35. If true....

 

It's a major scandal. But I saw lots of allegation and very little evidence in that piece.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:59 PM

36. Fascism.

 

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Feb 26, 2015, 08:36 PM

37. In fairness, statements from the Chicago Police Department: Chicago Tribune,& Chicago Sun Times

you may read the entire response here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-guardian-story-met-20150224-story.html

the link below is the story from the Chicago Sun Times..read it if you wish

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news-chicago/7/71/393084/homan-square-site-chicago-police-deny-report-secret-interrogation-compound
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By Jeremy Gorner and Meredith Rodriguez
Chicago Tribune

Chicago police deny British paper's claims about beatings, illegal detentions (title of article)

The Chicago Police Department in a statement Tuesday night denied accusations in a story by a British newspaper that alleged people have been illegally detained, beaten and denied access to counsel in a Homan Square facility..


The Police Department issued a statement in response to the Tuesday story in The Guardian. The department said violence does not happen as a part of interviews with suspects or anyone else and that lawyers have access to any clients at the West Side facility. The site also houses the department's Bureau of Organized Crime, SWAT unit evidence technicians and the CPD ballistics lab, the department said.



"CPD abides by all laws, rules and guidelines pertaining to any interviews of suspects or witnesses, at Homan Square or any other CPD facility," department spokesman Martin Maloney said in a statement. "If lawyers have a client detained at Homan Square, just like any other facility, they are allowed to speak to and visit them. It also houses CPD's Evidence Recovered Property Section, where the public is able to claim inventoried property."

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #37)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 02:44 AM

39. BULLSHIT.

 

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #37)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 07:03 AM

40. Oh, that's OK then ...

 

> The department said violence does not happen as a part of interviews with suspects or anyone else

As long as the beatings are only as a softening up process rather than the actual interview
then we're fine. The PD statement is correct.


> and that lawyers have access to any clients at the West Side facility.

If the suspects/victims/whoever are being denied access to counsel then said counsel have not
got any clients yet and so the above statement is also perfectly correct.


It's all in the wording folks ...

Let's see what "Be Real Scared Now!" events happen to ensure this stays just a "story in a British
newspaper" rather than an illustration of the ever-growing police state.


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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Fri Feb 27, 2015, 01:52 AM

38. The irony is it took a white victim to make this a "story"...

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