Snatched 3-Day-Old of Slain Mom Found Alive; Person Detained

[Bacchus4.0]

Source: abc

A 3-day-old baby who was snatched from his mother by a woman who shot her at least six times in the parking lot of a Spring, Texas, pediatrician's office, has been found alive, and someone has been detained in the case, officials said.

Montgomery County District Attorney Brett Ligon said only that the infant, Keegan Schuchardt, had been found alive, but did not say where.

One person he described as a person of interest in the case has been detained, he said. He would give no other details about the recovery of the newborn or any suspected motive for the kidnapping, saying it is still an active investigation

Police have surveillance video from the center where Keegan was kidnapped, he said.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/snatched-day-slain-mom-found-alive-person-detained/story?id=16159451

[mindwalker_i]

1. Sounds like another stand-your-ground case

"The baby was threatening me!"

[Bacchus4.0]

3. I don't think so n/t

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[Politicalboi]

4. I'm so tired of hearing "jokes"

About stand your ground. A woman was killed. Trayvon was killed. There is no joke.

[bluedigger]

5. +1

Enough already.

[Skittles]

8. the "JOKES" are in general DISGUST for VIGILANTE GUN LAWS

[petronius]

35. And the 'jokes' are disgusting and inappropriate. A woman was murdered and her child

kidnapped - there are dozens of threads in which to discuss SYG laws, dragging a compete irrelevancy into this thread to make a nonsensical 'joke' is asinine...

[PavePusher]

57. Somehow, I don't think any gun laws were really relevent to this....

except for the ones about criminal misuse. YMMV.

[emilyg]

10. I'm with you.

[mindwalker_i]

11. Oh for crying out loud

Somebody needs a nap

[Beacool]

42. This has nothing to do with "Stand your ground".

Besides, the victim was white and the shooter was AA. Are members of Congress going to speak out against this shooting? Were there hoodies involved? Is the president going to speak out about it? Probably not.

[expatriate2mex]

49. Don't hold your breath. Like the guy that was stripped and robbed, no.nt

[Liber-AL]

59. This shooter is an insane psychopath.

There is no other explanation for this senseless murder. At least she was arrested and incarcerated.
I am deeply disturbed by this... Lord, lord ,lord help us!

[Beacool]

65. I agree.

She seems to be mentally ill. I feel terrible for the mother. Also for the baby and his two siblings who will now grow up without a mom.

Sad story all around.

[Snake Alchemist]

16. It will be interesting to see if you post the same comment if this happens to a DUer. nt

[HotRodTuna]

18. Well, the killer was poor and black and the victim was white and from a nice suburb

Does that change your attitude?

A brand new mother had her baby ripped from her arms, was then shot seven times and finally run over by the getaway car. Real comedy material.

*I work about 10 minutes from this location before you start telling me I don't know what I'm talking about regarding demographics and the area.

[expatriate2mex]

21. Yea, real funny. Some on here must be transplanted fox posters.

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Maybe it's because the shooter is black and the victim white? I'm not white, not a white guilter, so maybe I don't get it. If it was a white that did it to a black would it still be funny? I just do not get "selective" liberalism or "progressiveness". Then again I am an old, old time liberal.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131352/Verna-McClain-arrested-Kayla-Marie-Golden-killed-son-Keegan-Schuchardt-snatched-arms-Houston-Texas.html

I read that the shooter is a registered nurse, not sure I would agree with her being poor. In the picture at the link the father and his mother in law do not look well to do.

[HotRodTuna]

25. My information was from the Houston Chronicle

Maybe you can educate me on why it's ok to joke about this? If someone's going to bring up the Trayvon issue (however obliquely), then I think this is fair game. I actually assumed the shooter was white until I read otherwise. To me it's got nothing to do with black/white (since the lady obviously didn't mind stealing a white baby).

Race was brought into the Trayvon case pretty heavily; I think it's fair to examine whether that's a fair standard.

And no, I'm not a "transplanted fox poster" but thanks for asking.

*I don't know if she's poor but in Houston, houses are so cheap that one someone lives in an apartment it pretty much equates with being poor.

[expatriate2mex]

26. Try rereading my post. I was agreeing with you.

Did you actually read what I posted? ****Yea, real funny. Some on here must be transplanted fox posters.**** I was referring to those joking about it as transplanted fox posters.

The only thing I debated with you on is the poor shooter and well to do victim. I don't think that is clear since the shooter is supposed to be an RN. I read the houston cronicle before the UK article.

I am not white and the double standard of white liberals surprises me. If it's white on black it's horrible, black on white it's jokes. It's all horrible to me, killing to steal a baby even worse.

[HotRodTuna]

27. Sorry for the confusion, your post changed from the first time I saw it

and I obviously misinterpreted it. All good, not trying to be a tool.

[expatriate2mex]

31. OK, it was edited 25 minutes before your post though.

Mostly to edit mistakes. I have deformed ra fingers and usually have to go back and fix my typing. I think we are on the same side though.

[HotRodTuna]

46. I started my reply, went to a team meeting for an hour, came back and sent it

bad protocol probably. Yes, we're on the same side.

[expatriate2mex]

33. I read where she's an rn in ca also, maybe she just moved there? nt

[Seedersandleechers]

52. I read an article that states she's an LVN/LPN which is not a RN

http://www.khou.com/news/Woman-charged-for-shooting-mother-baby-in-CPS-custody-147893285.html

[expatriate2mex]

54. I've read it both ways. I kind of thought she might be a rn in one state and lpn in another? CA/TX

I don't know for sure though.

[Seedersandleechers]

55. That's possible

if she went back to nursing school and got more education.

[maddezmom]

28. where did you get that information about the shooter

and/or the victim? Not sure why you are making an assumption because you work 10 minutes from the location.

[Bacchus4.0]

29. not sure about the socioeconomic status, but pictures of the victim and assailant are available n;t

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[expatriate2mex]

32. Here are pic's in this article, as the other person said not sure about the economic status.

I have read that the shooter is an rn though.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131352/Verna-Deann-McClain-Nurse-shot-Kayla-Marie-Golden-ripped-baby-son-arms.html

[maddezmom]

34. I live here so I've seen the pics on the morning news

I still don't see what this has to do with the case. And no I don't think SYG or off-topic comments are relevant either.

[Bacchus4.0]

36. the race of the baby certainly COULD have something to do with it

if that is who the murderer was looking for. but I don't know.

[expatriate2mex]

38. Yes, or if she did not want to kill a black person for their baby. nt

[maddezmom]

40. from the reports this mother and child were in the wrong place at the wrong time

the murderer told her sister she was adopting soon and I guess this is the first child she had to opportunity to kidnap. Not sure race played anything to do with it. I'm sure we'll be finding out more as the details come in.

[expatriate2mex]

37. You are not sure what pictures have to do with the case?

Why show pic's for any case then?

[maddezmom]

41. my point is, you can't tell if someone is poor or rich based on photos

[expatriate2mex]

47. Ah, I thought you meant the photos in general.

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I agree with you 100%.

I worked as a mechanic that wrote my own service tickets and later on sold att wireless systems between jobs and the #1 thing in sales is do not judge anyone before the sale. Looks, clothing, car, house, etc. I had a couple renting that made 200k a year (early 90's) that could not get approved for a 3500.00 system. I had people living in ruin down houses that paid cash.

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. I live in the neighborhood where this happened and you have the demographics a bit wrong.

The neighborhood of Spring, TX is richly diverse. While some of it is suburbs, some of it is farmland and some of it is apartments/stripmalls etc.


I-45 splits Spring into two parts...with FM 1960 (Which runs perpendicular) being another "social divide", for those interested. Where this happened is on the upper scale side of Spring, close to The Woodlands. The Woodlands being where all the up and comers wish to live. It is one of the most successful PUDs thus far in the country.

[slackmaster]

51. There is nothing funny about a grisly crime committed by a person who obviously has a severe,

...Untreated mental illness.

[virgogal]

2. Good news !

[Crunchy Frog]

6. Rejoice! Gun violence is at its lowest rate in decades in this country.

I am continuously assured that these stories I read every day are statistical anomalies. She could just as easily have died in her bathtub.

[Riftaxe]

7. Facts are darn pesky things...

Ain't they, especially when they interfere with a good poutrage.

[Skittles]

9. what are you poutraging about?

[Crunchy Frog]

60. No poutrage from me. I'm agreeing with you.

[bongbong]

20. HA HA HA!

Yeah, it's just as easy to die in your bathtub as at the business end of a gun!

[4th law of robotics]

23. At one point we all thought anecdotes = trends

then some bright guys invented statistics.

/how could we have a high unemployment rate? All *my* friends have jobs.

[polichick]

50. Hooray for guns - America's most wonderful addiction!!!

What a proud nation!!!!!

[Tx4obama]

12. Very happy to hear they found the baby. Very sad day for the family. n/t

[maddezmom]

13. Woman charged for shooting mother; baby in CPS custody

HOUSTON—A woman has been charged for shooting a mother outside a Woodland-area pediatric center and kidnapping her baby Tuesday night.

Verna McClain, 30, has been charged with capital murder. She was in custody Wednesday morning. Her relationship to the family, if any, has not been identified.

Montgomery County deputies say that McClain got out of an ice-blue, four-door Lexus around 3:40 p.m. and shot the victim, Kala Golden, about seven times. She then fled with the baby.

An Amber Alert was issued for 3-day-old Keegan Schuchardt, who was found by DPS troopers around 8:15 p.m. at a residence off of FM 1960, where the parents of the defendant live.

more: http://www.khou.com/news/Woman-charged-for-shooting-mother-baby-in-CPS-custody-147893285.html

[Bacchus4.0]

15. apparently, she wanted to "adopt" a baby n/t

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[4th law of robotics]

24. As if there weren't already enough orphans

she needs to be sent away for the rest of her life.

[Bacchus4.0]

30. I get the feeling the rest of her life won't be all that long relatively speaking n/t

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[Snake Alchemist]

66. Actually, she had a buyer. nt

[ck4829]

14. Don't these baby snatchers read the news?

What happens when the baby you take grows up and needs to show his or her social security number or birth certificate for... you know, anything?

[Snake Alchemist]

17. The death penalty is too kind for this woman. nt

[bongbong]

19. She won't be charged

SYG laws prohibit it.

"I was trying to snatch her baby, and she objected. I felt threatened, so I shot her! SYG says I am innocent!"

[Bacchus4.0]

22. she has been charged with capital murder

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=8625469

SPRING, Texas (AP) - April 18, 2012 (WPVI) -- A registered nurse has been charged with capital murder in the shooting of a young mother and the abduction of her newborn son at a pediatric clinic near Houston, a prosecutor said Wednesday.


View all 10 photosWitnesses say an argument broke out between Golden and another woman as Golden left Northwoods Pediatric Center in Spring on Tuesday afternoon with her 3-day-old son, Keegan.

The woman repeatedly shot Golden then snatched the baby from her arms and went to drive away in a blue or light green Lexus, according to witness accounts. The dying woman leaned into the vehicle and tried to take Keegan back, screaming "My baby!" but her attacker sped away.

[PavePusher]

58. Try... harder. n/t

[Beacool]

43. Terrible story!!

This story was bad enough without knowing that the perpetrator was a nurse. How could a nurse shoot a woman 6 times to take her baby?

I wonder if she's not mentally ill.

I'm glad that the baby is OK, but now he will have to grow up without his mother. Very sad.

[Alcibiades]

44. We had a similar case here in NC

Or, rather, New York, the Carlina White case

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/north_carolina_woman_who_raise.html

Was Ann Pettway insane? Well, not criminally so. She certainly knew the nature and wrongfulness of her acts, as evidenced by a two-decade coverup.

We don't know much about this case, but I'd suspect that McClain's not crazy, either. She took the effort to secrete the baby with her sister, after all. It is a little baffling: in Carlina White's case, she suspected that Pettway wasn't her mother because they didn't resemble one another. Pettway at least snatched a baby she could plausibly claim as her own, though--I don't know how a black woman who has not been pregnant can show up with a white baby and claim it as her own, particularly given the publicity surrounding the death of the mother. That part is crazy. How on earth would anyone think for a minute they could get away with this? A gold wig as a disguise? It also seems it would be easier to pass yourself off as a nanny or break into someone's house and steal a child.

[HotRodTuna]

45. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that the shooter is a total idot

with anger management issues who made a lot of crazy promises to her family that she needed to back up. That'll probably sums up most of the story. It sounds like she tried to snatch the baby, the lady fought back, so she shot her up. I'd like to hope that she didn't go into it with killing the mother as part of her plan, but the fact that she brought a loaded gun suggests otherwise.

At least it's Texas, this woman will never taste the air of freedom again.

[expatriate2mex]

48. As you say, with a loded gun she probably went into it prepared to kill a mother for her child.

I can't see any mother (or father) letting someone take their baby without fighting to the end. OK, in today's society there are probably some but they are the exception.

[Liber-AL]

61. She HAS to be crazy...

A black woman killing a white woman in Texas and taking her baby is an automatic death sentence! They don't care if she is insane. After all, its up to Texas authorities to determine that and I expect they won't. The white community will see to it that an example is made of this murderer, insane or not! But she should have known that before she acted.. I just hope McClain's arrest will assuage the sensibilities of those who would use this tragedy to divide us. For some, it will be a call to action. There will be a lot of " I told you so(s)" and long evening discussions. Blacks will be watched with an even greater intensity as home owners and casual walkers check the cylinders of their guns in anticipation of more incidents like this.

The Devil MUST have made her do it. Every action she took to complete her hellish mission supports that.

[Alcibiades]

63. She's not legally insane

the bar is very high, and the steps she took to cover her tracks are evidence that she realized what she was doing was wrong.

But there's some clearly faulty thinking going on. Even if she had somehow not been caught, the fact that her plan included somehow passing off a baby that couldn't have been hers shows some cognitive deficits, to say the least.

[Liber-AL]

64. Legal insanity is determined by competent authority and a court!

In a sense , you are right...She isn't legally insane until deemed so. She might very well be deemed so, Its up to the courts and an expert generally known as a psychiatrist. Her lawyer would be on top of that defense. If she is financially able, she ought o hire the best white one she can buy from anywhere but Texas!

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Very sad

Why haven't they found her accomplice?

[The Northerner]

56. How despicable

I hope that the husband is able to find closure after what she did.