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Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:34 PM

You asked for it! The Democratic Primaries forum opens TODAY!

This discussion thread was locked by Skinner (a host of the Announcements group).

This is kind of important. You might want to read through the whole thing.

There are only 348 days left until the Iowa Caucuses! Which means it's well past time for the official Democratic Presidential primary season to begin here on DU. As usual, we will require that all discussions about the Democratic presidential primary take place in a dedicated Democratic Primaries forum. But this year we are making a few changes that will hopefully improve the experience for everyone. Check it out....


WHERE TO POST ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES

Discussion of the 2020 Democratic Presidential primaries is only permitted in the Democratic Primaries forum, and in the dedicated candidate supporter groups. These discussions are not permitted in Latest Breaking News, Editorials & Other Articles, Video & Multimedia, General Discussion, The DU Lounge, or anywhere else. In certain forums you will be prompted with an interrupt page directing you to post your Democratic primary discussions in the Democratic Primaries forum.


THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARIES FORUM & CANDIDATE PREFERENCE FUNCTION

In order to post in the Democratic Primaries forum, you must select your preferred candidate. (If you are undecided, don't worry -- "Undecided" is one of the options.) Your selection is logged by our software, and then presented on your Profile page, and in place of your signature line when posting in the Democratic Primaries forum. Currently you may select from the following: Undecided, Biden, Booker, Brown, Buttigieg, Castro, Delaney, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Sanders, Warren, and Yang. We can easily add additional candidates later if necessary, and candidates will be removed when they drop out of the race or officially declare that they're not running. You can change your candidate preference at any time.

Keeping track of members' candidate preferences has the following benefits: 1) When someone posts about the primaries, their stated candidate preference will provide useful context to their post. 2) We can tally the number of people who have indicated a preference for each candidate to get a general idea of how much support they enjoy on DU. 3) We will use stated candidate support as a means to grant access to dedicated candidate supporter groups. 4) We can potentially use candidate preferences to balance the partisan makeup of juries that are called to judge alerted posts, if we deem it necessary. 5) We can use candidate preferences to display or hide posts from candidate supporter groups on the Latest Page or elsewhere.

Members' regular signature lines and avatar images do not appear when posting in the Democratic Primaries forum. Instead, only the special candidate preference signature line appears.

Remember, if you don't want to see posts from the Democratic Primaries forum, you can trash it. Just click the "Trash this forum" button at the top of the forum.

+ The Democratic Primaries forum is here.

+ "If I were to vote in a presidential primary today, I would vote for..." Set your candidate preference here.

+ View current candidate rankings here.


CANDIDATE AVATAR IMAGES

We have added new Democratic primary candidate avatar images to our collection of available avatars. For officially declared candidates there are two avatars, a photo and a logo (potential candidates just have a photo). Currently we provide avatars for the following candidates: Biden, Booker, Brown, Buttigieg, Castro, Delaney, Gabbard, Gillibrand, Harris, Hickenlooper, Klobuchar, O'Rourke, Sanders, Warren, Yang. We can easily add additional candidates later if necessary.

To change your avatar image, click the "My Profile" link at the top of any page (or just click here) Click the "Edit" link next to "Avatar image." Candidate photos are available under the "Politicians" section; candidate logos are available under the "Logos" section.


CANDIDATE SUPPORTER GROUPS

Sometime tomorrow, we will close down the existing candidate supporter groups. Within a few weeks we will open new candidate supporter groups, incorporating some changes which we will announce later.


A REMINDER ABOUT THE DU RULES

In case there is any question, let me be very clear: DU rules apply to the entire discussion forum, including the new Democratic Primaries forum and candidate supporter groups. If you haven't read them in a while, RIGHT NOW would be a good time to go refresh your memory. They are good rules, they make DU better, and we intend to keep on enforcing them. You can read the rules on our Terms of Service page.

To preemptively respond to the inevitable complaints: The rules make clear that constructive criticism of Democrats is always welcome on DU. But if you are incapable of presenting your criticism in a thoughtful, substantive way and end up losing your ability to post, that is YOUR PROBLEM not mine.


A FINAL THOUGHT

All too often in the past Democratic Primary season on DU was a cesspool of toxic partisan ugliness, and I am much too jaded and cynical to promise you that this time will be any different. But I do believe that it is possible (maybe?) for primary season on Democratic Underground to be better than it has been in the past. If you post with the attitude that all of our candidates are good enough, and they're all far superior to Donald Trump, then you should be fine. But if post with the attitude that any Democratic candidate is The Enemy who must be destroyed by any means necessary, then you are going to cause problems for DU and for yourself.

May the best candidate win.

BTW, if you encounter any bugs or problems with the software please post them in this thread. Thanks.

Skinner, EarlG, Elad
DU Admins

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Reply You asked for it! The Democratic Primaries forum opens TODAY! (Original post)
Skinner Feb 2019 OP
MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #1
DownriverDem Feb 2019 #44
MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #53
DownriverDem Feb 2019 #63
JonLP24 Feb 2019 #122
DENVERPOPS Feb 2019 #103
ronnykmarshall Mar 2019 #125
Grasswire2 Feb 2019 #2
Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #95
question everything Feb 2019 #119
MoonRiver Feb 2019 #3
stonecutter357 Feb 2019 #4
bearsfootball516 Feb 2019 #5
LanternWaste Feb 2019 #6
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 #7
DFW Feb 2019 #52
bhikkhu Feb 2019 #81
question everything Feb 2019 #120
Politicub Feb 2019 #8
lpbk2713 Feb 2019 #9
lunatica Feb 2019 #10
workinclasszero Feb 2019 #11
msongs Feb 2019 #12
PatrickforO Feb 2019 #91
theaocp Feb 2019 #13
True Dough Feb 2019 #25
uponit7771 Feb 2019 #14
demmiblue Feb 2019 #15
DinahMoeHum Feb 2019 #16
Jeffersons Ghost Feb 2019 #96
Bettie Feb 2019 #17
Maxheader Feb 2019 #18
SergeStorms Feb 2019 #72
Maxheader Feb 2019 #75
Ms. Toad Feb 2019 #84
BumRushDaShow Feb 2019 #19
Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #20
LiberalLovinLug Feb 2019 #21
livetohike Feb 2019 #22
Renew Deal Feb 2019 #23
CatWoman Feb 2019 #24
WePurrsevere Feb 2019 #123
C Moon Feb 2019 #26
True Dough Feb 2019 #27
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Maeve Feb 2019 #30
Skinner Feb 2019 #31
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TygrBright Feb 2019 #34
yardwork Feb 2019 #35
RKP5637 Feb 2019 #36
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safeinOhio Feb 2019 #39
Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #40
nolabear Feb 2019 #41
TygrBright Feb 2019 #42
Skinner Feb 2019 #43
TygrBright Feb 2019 #46
Liberty Belle Feb 2019 #59
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BooScout Feb 2019 #111
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question everything Feb 2019 #114
sheshe2 Feb 2019 #117
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Sparkly Mar 2019 #126
mahina Feb 2019 #106
romainetarra Feb 2019 #109
stevesinpa Feb 2019 #110
Skinner Feb 2019 #113
Beringia Feb 2019 #115
apkhgp Feb 2019 #118
JonLP24 Feb 2019 #121
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Justice Apr 2019 #127
progree Mar 2020 #128

Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:36 PM

1. Thank you.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:38 PM

44. "Democratic"

I like that. They must be a member of the Democratic Party or they don't get my support.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #44)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:57 PM

53. I'm with you 100% on that.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:59 PM

63. Glad to hear it

I'm getting beat up pretty bad by folks who just don't get it. I don't want someone who joins the Democratic Party just so they can run and then quits when they lose.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #63)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:10 AM

122. He didn't quit because he lost

He's been an Independent in Vermont for a long time he never lost as a Democrat because he was an Independent. Rather than pull a Ralph Nader he runs under the Democratic nomination for President he went back as an Independent for his constituents who he has represented as an Independent for a very long time.

His voting record is among the most liberal in the Senate and he caucasus with Democrats. Joe Manchin is a registered Democrat who votes in line with the Republican party while Sanders consistently backs liberal policies.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #44)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 03:27 PM

103. Don't forget

Don't forget all the "DINO"s RUNNING AROUND OUT THERE.................

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY........

Trump is still providing his daily smoke screen for the Republican Senate to continue to shove thru stuff right and left. The predominately Republican owned mainstream Media gives little press to the daily corruption of our Democracy being done by the Republican Senators! Here is just todays sneaky crap, that has been going on continuously for years, while they are using Trump’s daily antics to divert attention from all they are doing……….

Trump would not exist for a minute if it weren’t for the Republicans in congress totally enabling him so they can pull this crap off……….and yet no press is ever given to all the Republican congress’s evil doings! If the Dems would just focus every day on talking about all of this crap being shoved thru instead of continually having their attention on Trump, maybe something would change!!!!!!

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/2/21/1836599/-McConnell-ready-to-launch-mini-nuke-on-Senate-to-jam-more-nominees-through-faster#view-story

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:45 PM

125. Mic DROP!

BOOM!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:37 PM

2. Just in time, thanks. nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:04 AM

95. I LOVE HARRIS! But we need votes in the US Senate; Why not do a Dr. Howard Dean thing?

Just saying, the DNC needs votes in the US Senate...

What about "Pocahontas" Can you spell "Teflon Don?" aka [organized crime] and tweet online innuendo? Can you "'real'y tweet?" No revenge, just facts about obvious, documented, online and appointment to important positions (Attorney General appointments) in attempts to ...

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Reply #95)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:27 AM

119. I agree. We have four members of the Judiciary committee running

I think that a governor is always the better choice.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:37 PM

3. YAY!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM

4. K&R

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM

5. Awesome job!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:38 PM

6. Thanks, Skinner. As late as last week, I'd thought it would be jumping the gun

but as things stand this week, the Primaries group comes just in the nick of time.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:39 PM

7. Why does "You asked for it" almost sound taunting?

Hope it's not too heated and people can be respectful.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:57 PM

52. I certainly didn't ask for it.

But I have nothing against its being there.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:43 PM

81. "Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more!"

...I'd have found a place to put that in myself. After the last few, it might be most appropriate (though I have some innocent hope that things will remain civil this time).

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:30 AM

120. Some of us have. Repeatedly.

Actually I asked for a separate GD politics which would have been mostly Trump, and the regular GD for, say, the fires and hurricanes, etc.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:40 PM

8. Love the new approach

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:42 PM

9. I hope it catches on.




Old habits are hard to break.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:42 PM

10. Thanks!

I look forward to choosing to hang around during the primaries!

Love you guys!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:44 PM

11. Nice!

 

Thanks mods!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM

12. great now if there was a forum for all twitter posts with no content... nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:21 AM

91. Yes I dislike those too.

As to this post, I like what Skinner says about every single potential candidate being better than Trump. We just have to say NO to the circular firing squad gig...



Or the Sisyphus gig...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM

13. I'm guessing many either ignored or will ignore the Final Thought.

There's too much investment in bashing other candidates, and they just got their own pool to pee in. I will not be wading in there. Icky.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:58 PM

25. Then let them face the consequences

I plan to be on my best behavior!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:45 PM

14. NICE !!! So does talking about the primaries also mean talking about the candidates? When will ...

... GD be scrubbed of post that are toxic?

thx in advance

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:46 PM

15. Thank you (and I appreciate your final thought).

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:46 PM

16. Thanks, guys.

And thanks for the option of trashing the forum if I don't feel like reading through those catfights until 2020.

As a Democratic district leader in my neck of the woods, I have more important things to work on in 2019, such as helping to consolidate and confirm the gains made in 2017 and 2018 among our candidates-now-legislators.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:36 AM

96. true: Democrats need prosecution for Trump-treason

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:47 PM

17. THANK YOU!!!!

Seriously, that will make GD WAY easier to read!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:48 PM

18. Please waive the rule on trashing democrats...

Its a primary for crying out loud..There will be personal favs that many
will be very passionate about..A few zingers, especially at berny, will add
spice to the proceedings....

IMHO....

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Response to Maxheader (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:33 PM

72. Bernie isn't a Democrat.

I just had to get one last jab in before "I declare".

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #72)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:04 PM

75. Good job!


My bad....berny is an indy...

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #72)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:01 PM

84. For purposes of DU, he is.

Review Skinner's list of candidate options.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:48 PM

19. Oh THANK the makers of DU

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:50 PM

20. Excellent timing

Seems earlier than past cycles but that is warranted this time, given the person in office

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:53 PM

21. Great!

I do wonder if there will be any leeway on other forums for a mention of the primaries or who is running etc...Because I think it will be damn difficult to even discuss topics without a slip once in awhile about "this candidate supports that...." or "That's why I can't support this candidate" etc... I'm just not sure how this is going to work but I'm game to try.

Without a doubt any of our candidates would be miles ahead of any Republican, even if Trump is gone and its another R. Personally, I think two or more can have a robust discussion and disagreement about a candidate, even if one of them takes it worse than the other. Sometimes I think this leads to the one feeling put upon to alert the other one. And sometimes they get enough members that share their point of view on the jury to quash the one they were debating. So hopefully this new forum will allow deeper debating.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM

22. Thanks Skinner, EarlG and Elad! You guys are the best!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM

23. Thanks

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:56 PM

24. LOL

Like I'm going in there.

Right.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 27, 2019, 06:21 PM

123. I try to steer clear of it too...

While it's nice to hope it will be better this time, I'm not holding my breath.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 03:59 PM

26. Great idea! Hopefully, this will include moving "the latest polls" into that category, as well.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM

27. This is a wise move

I'm glad LBN and GD won't be cluttered with bickering over primary candidates. We can wade into that designated "mosh pit" if we feel like dancing.

Fantastic!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:00 PM

28. One suggestion, would be interesting to see a raw total next to each candidate percentage.

After a while, it would give a good look to how many people regularly post here. That's something I've always wondered.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:02 PM

29. Hallelujah!



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:09 PM

30. Question--will the current primary threads in GD be allowed to go on?

With the idea that they will gradually sink as folks migrate to the new forum?

And I think your timing is wonderful--thanks, Guys!

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Response to Maeve (Reply #30)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:09 PM

31. We'll probably lock them shortly. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:12 PM

32. Good.

Too early for me but enjoy.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:12 PM

33. k

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:14 PM

34. THANK YOU!!!

Well done, way to go, blessings on you all.

I wish you the best possible success at identifying and neutralizing GRU trolls and bots, right up through November 3rd, 2020.

gratefully,
Bright

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:16 PM

35. Just in time. Thanks, dudes!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:18 PM

36. Wow!!! Incredible!!!Thanks!!!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:18 PM

37. Thanks! We appreciate your hard work. Glad to hear GD and LBN will stay clean....

so important news items won't be buried or not even noticed.

.............. ............ ...........

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:26 PM

38. Thank you and well done!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:29 PM

39. Thank you.

Blocked those threads and had an instant drop in pulse and BP.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:30 PM

40. Aaaaannnd....we're OFF to the races!!! Yee-ha!

Should be some spirited discussions. But hopefully about issues and content, and not ugly and mean and personal.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:31 PM

41. Ever thought of running for office?

You get things done!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:34 PM

42. It's very gracious of you to include "Sanders" among the Democrats.

And he does caucus and mostly vote with us, so that's okay.

But will the "no trashing Democrats" rule also apply to him?

I don't care either way since I won't be entering those discussions, but it's probably as well to be explicit about that, especially for the benefit of those with a quick "alert" finger.

helpfully,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:35 PM

43. The rules have been explicit on this issue for two and a half years.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #43)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM

46. Excellent, thanks. Might not come amiss to note in a FAQ sticky for the forum itself, though.

Just sayin'...

Of COURSE everyone thoroughly reads all the Terms of Service before hitting the "alert" button in the hat of the moment, but redundancy does help with comprehension.

Also, starting a FAQ sticky now might come in useful. Other issues that appear frequently can be settled there, although it may not happen at all that someone(s) will manage to come up with ways to rattle the cage. Highly unlikely, but again, never hurts to be prepared.

busybodily,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:23 PM

59. He is running as a Democrat and could win the Dem nomination,

so why wouldn't the rule apply to him, to?

If people don't like that he wasn't a Democrat between elections they can vote for another candidate. But trashing him is risky because he is still popular and could win the nomination.

It's easy enough to just post why you believe another candidate may be better positioned to beat Trump, or has views on issues that you prefer, without attacking any candidate running in the Democratic primary.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM

45. What about posting in the state forums? Some potential candidates will have implications

for Senatorial challenges--not to mention other down-ballot consequences. (e.g., if Hickenlooper announces for President, rather than running to challenge Corey Gardner for the Senate)

Obviously, each state's own primary will have a lot of cross-over issues.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:44 PM

48. I tend to think that would be fine.

But I reserve the right to change my mind if it is disruptive.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:03 PM

79. Thank you. nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:43 PM

47. Great stuff...thx!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:44 PM

49. Great idea!

Will definitely make us more unified when we need it the most.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:45 PM

50. Are we allowed to . . .

 

If we post to the Democratic Primary forum, are we permitted to criticize Bernie?

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Response to Roadside Attraction (Reply #50)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:17 PM

71. Skinner answered that with a link to this ...

Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:56 PM

51. The first primaries are nearly year away.

I think I can wait that long.

But if means the continuous barrage of "Bernie did this and Bernie did that" posts are now destined for that forum, I'm all for its being there ASAP.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 04:59 PM

54. Skinner gets an A+ for this.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:02 PM

55. Brilliant!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:04 PM

56. dang. you guys are geniuses.

srsly.
i have watched you guys wrestle w this circus all these years. i have felt you pain at the behavior of the anonymous human animal.
i share your cynicism.

but you have done a pretty good job of it from the get go, and made it better in ways that are fair, democratic, and decent.
when shit didnt work, you werent afraid to ditch it. then you kept trying.

i think this is a great shot at a better world here.

many, many thanks.

i hope our cynicism will not be rewarded.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:18 PM

57. very interesting how you have set it up

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:20 PM

58. Agreed. Remember, if you trash Bernie or Kamala or anyone and they wind up as the nominee,

Your criticisms will help Trump and Putin. Don't write their campaign ads for them.

We should all limit our comments to why we think a particular candidate is the strongest or best, not run down the others.

None of us have a crystal ball. Someone who is not our preferred candidate may wind up as the nominee.

All of them are far better than Trump or any other Republican (should some maverick challenge Trump).

Our strength is in unity. Now is the time to set aside past differences from the last campaign and be grateful we have so many strong, impassioned candidates out there firing up voters.

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Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #58)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:34 PM

77. Agree 100%; save the vitriole for the opposing candidate come 2020. Don't be played.

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Response to Liberty Belle (Reply #58)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:12 PM

87. If Bernie ends up as he nominee we get Trump for 4 more years

And deserve it if we are that stupid.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:29 PM

60. Nicely done, DU team.

I like the idea of the "who I support" tag at the bottom of the posts in the Primaries forum.

Originally I was going to stay with "Undecided" but realized this could have a polling function so since I do have a preference among the names listed, I declared it. But after that preference I am undecided.

Now if you could figure out a ranked-choice logic for this ...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:35 PM

61. Thank you DU Admins!

That'll unclutter a lot of the congestion out of the GD.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:54 PM

62. Thank you Skinner, EarlG, and Elad!!

You guys ROCK

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:04 PM

64. how about not allowing Twitter posts?

since that is the way various bad actors are messing with us.

Facebook too, though I don't see people posting from Facebook here very much.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:13 PM

65. Good thinking, Skinner! Thanks! nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:17 PM

66. Great!

Well reasoned and a good plan. I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. Looking forward to the New Improved DU.

P.S. Will there also be a forum dedicated to fried chicken preparation?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:26 PM

67. Good Idea.

Plenty of time for things to happen and research to be done. Earlier this month
while doing my taxes I realized that I would be doing them again for next year
Before the Iowa Caucuses.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:31 PM

68. Just in time. Hallelujah. nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:38 PM

69. Well played. This is a great way to do it

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:09 PM

70. An exciting idea!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:41 PM

73. Thank you, Skinner!



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 07:44 PM

74. ˇGracias, Skinner!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:26 PM

76. yay! Arigatou!

私たちにいい!よし!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 08:41 PM

78. Awesome! Thanks!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:06 PM

80. Thanks again y'all, for all of your good work. ❤ nt

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 09:53 PM

82. Is there any way to make the poll portraits line up left to right?

It's getting annoying to have to scroll down every time I refresh the forum.

But thanks for the new organization. It makes lots of sense.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #82)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:00 PM

83. They are supposed to show left to right.

Maybe shift-refresh the page and see if it resets the layout.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #83)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:17 PM

88. Also, the names don't show next...

… to the pictures in the "signature" in Chrome, but they do in Edge.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #82)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:11 PM

86. Huh. It works as you say in Edge. The problem is in...

...Chrome, running in Windows 10. Thanks for the prompt response.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #86)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:48 PM

89. I'm using Chrome on Windows 10, and it is working.

I think you need to reload the stylesheet. Holding the shift key and clicking the refresh button on your browser should fix it.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #89)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:07 PM

100. Thanks! That worked. Who knew...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 10:10 PM

85. Anybody but Bernie

Until that’s an option I’m not voting.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Feb 20, 2019, 11:39 PM

90. Wonderful! - I've already trashed it!

But I'm glad it's there, and I'm sure I'll miss some good posts and information. But based on the 2016 experience - I'll just wait outside.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:24 AM

92. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

I've trashed several threads with over 100, 200,even 300 replies. If I want to wade in on any others like them I'll know where they are.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 12:56 AM

93. Thanks, Admins!

I will keep this page open. I’m good at a few things but technical stuff sometimes throws me.

Thanks for this, and for the ton of work, thought, attention, and care that clearly went into this.



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:17 AM

94. Thank You. Can there ever be a "ranked choice" option?

I have a #1 choice but also handful of really close #2s that would be equally as good.

I was hoping there would be a way to indicate that.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:05 AM

97. Can there be a "whoever is the Democratic nominee" option ?

I think there are some people here who would prefer to see that, rather than "undecided".

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

98. Eric Stalwell

Not on the list.

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Response to blue cat (Reply #98)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 11:32 AM

99. If you were to vote in a presidential primary today, would you vote for Eric Stalwell?

If so then we will add him to the list so you can select him as your preference.

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Response to blue cat (Reply #98)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:35 PM

101. Uh, that would be Swalwell.

Always good to know your candidate's name before jumping on the bandwagon!

https://swalwell.house.gov/

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 02:49 PM

102. Thanks! May DU stay civil, may the hackers and trolls be few, and may the best candidate win!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 05:37 PM

104. QUESTION re: close down the existing candidate supporter groups

So there is a post in the Barack Obama group (the BOG) that they expect that group to be closed.

Is that true? If so, why? Obama is clearly not a candidate for 2020.

Also does that mean other individual Democrats' groups - e.g. Kerry, Gore, O'Malley - will be closed as well? I realize some of these aren't getting a ton of posts lately but still don't think they should be closed due to the 2020 primaries.

Other than that I think it is a good idea, for the 2020 candidates. I'm looking forward to the "changes" that the new groups will have.

Oh and you might want to add, "May the odds be ever in your favor!"

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Response to MH1 (Reply #104)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:36 PM

105. I think we are not shutting down the Barack Obama group.

We might change the name to distinguish it from the candidate groups.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #105)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:28 PM

107. Thanks. What about others, like Kerry, O'Malley? nt

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Response to MH1 (Reply #107)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:05 PM

108. Not sure. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Reply #105)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:31 AM

111. What about The Hillary Group?

?

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Response to BooScout (Reply #111)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:57 AM

112. Not sure. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Reply #112)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:35 PM

114. Please do not close the Hillary group

She is still active and many of us go there to cheer her.

Also, the archives from the 2016 is a trove of information relevant to this cycle.

Thank you.

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Response to question everything (Reply #114)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:55 PM

117. + infinity, question everything!

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Response to Skinner (Reply #112)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 07:27 PM

116. Yes, Please Leave Hillary's Group

open, Skinner.. Thank You!

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Response to Skinner (Reply #112)

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:05 PM

126. I would like to echo the requests

to keep the Hillary Clinton forum open, please.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 06:51 PM

106. I'm thankful. Good idea. It was getting hard,

and this solution helped.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 01:31 AM

109. All Candidates are good enough

I promise Skinner, EarlG, and Elad to go into this with an open mind and of course realize all are better than the current sitting duck.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:36 AM

110. half a month short of a year before the Iowa caucuses

is not "passed time" for the election process to begin. our presidential campaigns are already WAY too long. we need to shorten the entire process, so that our elected officials can do their jobs instead of campaigning for another office.
in many countries, campaigning is limited to several months, let the work that our elected officials do be their campaign until it is much closer to Iowa and the actual elections.
by shortening the campaigning season, it will also mean candidates will not need as much money, in essence potentially limiting the need to beg for contributions.
this would also stop people from being inundated with campaign commercials, mailings, postings, and all else that goes with campaigns that turn people into apathetic voters/nonvoters just wishing the process would be over and done with. after so long, people tune out the endless campaigning.

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Response to stevesinpa (Reply #110)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:00 AM

113. Those first two sentences are a joke.

Obviously it's ridiculous that it's necessary to open the primaries forum a year before the Iowa Caucuses. But the primary campaign has already begun so DU needs a primaries forum.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 06:01 PM

115. Thank you for the forum and I love the way people declare who they like

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:40 PM

118. Whatever candidates go through this campaign

We go into it making sure it is not undermined by the RNC, WIKILEAKS, The FBI, and the Russians. We can not survive another four years of another Right Wing idiot in OUR White House.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2019, 08:50 AM

121. Could I post in candidate supporters forums?

And skip the GDP part for like you said toxic behavior.

I have a top 4 at the moment Sanders, Warren, Harris, or Gillibrand.

I like the Sanders & also visit the Warren forum I hope it stays open until the new forums open up. I'm worried about changes to the candidate forums.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:24 PM

124. What about the states groups?

For example, if I find an interesting story about Peter Buttigieg, will it be OK to post on the Indiana Group?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:02 PM

127. In 2016, asked for this multiple times but it was never done - why? why now?


I repeatedly asked for this in 2016 but DU never responded or set it up. Why? It was incredibly confusing because everything about the primary was in the general forum.

Now, it is set up more than a year out. Why?

Disappointed then. It's fine now but curious about the double standard.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:33 AM

128. Have the rules changed to one mention per state primary comtest?

Last edited Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Here are a few examples in LBN that violate your rules, unless I'm missing something. If there are new rules, please post them so that we don't waste our time calling out violations (( PS: restricting Democratic Primaries posting to Democratic Primaries or candidate support groups seems like a wonderful wonderful rule )) Thank you.

The Latest: Sanders wins Democratic primary in California https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440956
Biden defeats Warren in her home state of Massachusetts https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440953
The Latest: Sanders wins Democratic primary in Utah https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440948
Biden defeats Sanders in Minnesota Super Tuesday race https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440945
The Latest: Biden wins Democratic primary in Arkansas https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440933
Super Tuesday tally: Biden wins 5 states, Sanders takes 2 https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142440923

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