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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 02:59 PM

Seven-person juries go into effect today.

By popular demand, we have increased the number of jurors to evaluate community standards alerts from six to seven.

This is a fairly large technical change, and there are likely to be a few glitches. If you encounter any issues that you think the DU Admins need to be aware of, please post them in this thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

Skinner
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Reply Seven-person juries go into effect today. (Original post)
Skinner Apr 2014 OP
hrmjustin Apr 2014 #1
Agschmid Apr 2014 #2
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #31
Cha Apr 2014 #44
Agschmid Apr 2014 #45
Jim Lane Apr 2014 #64
Agschmid Apr 2014 #67
HereSince1628 Apr 2014 #3
TDale313 Apr 2014 #4
darkangel218 Apr 2014 #5
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #6
one_voice Apr 2014 #8
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #11
one_voice Apr 2014 #12
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #13
one_voice Apr 2014 #16
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #18
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #32
rhett o rick Apr 2014 #47
mountain grammy Apr 2014 #62
grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #63
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #72
L0oniX Apr 2014 #68
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2014 #71
frylock Apr 2014 #9
MineralMan Apr 2014 #7
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #10
DJ13 Apr 2014 #22
CFLDem Apr 2014 #76
Doctor_J Apr 2014 #14
whopis01 Apr 2014 #33
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #35
VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #51
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #55
VanillaRhapsody Apr 2014 #56
hootinholler Apr 2014 #52
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #54
hootinholler Apr 2014 #66
BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #70
riqster Apr 2014 #15
Orrex Apr 2014 #26
riqster Apr 2014 #30
muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #17
Skinner Apr 2014 #19
JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #20
LadyHawkAZ Apr 2014 #21
cer7711 Apr 2014 #23
byronius Apr 2014 #24
tclambert Apr 2014 #25
Orrex Apr 2014 #27
BeyondGeography Apr 2014 #28
Sherman A1 Apr 2014 #29
chillfactor Apr 2014 #34
Dawgs Apr 2014 #36
William769 Apr 2014 #37
TexasTowelie Apr 2014 #40
William769 Apr 2014 #42
pinto Apr 2014 #38
KansDem Apr 2014 #39
Scuba Apr 2014 #41
Sissyk Apr 2014 #43
Cha Apr 2014 #46
rhett o rick Apr 2014 #48
flamingdem Apr 2014 #49
krispos42 Apr 2014 #50
hootinholler Apr 2014 #53
Skinner Apr 2014 #57
hootinholler Apr 2014 #65
calimary Apr 2014 #58
Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #59
Oakenshield Apr 2014 #60
herding cats Apr 2014 #61
kcr Apr 2014 #69
Scootaloo Apr 2014 #73
hrmjustin Apr 2014 #74
Skinner Apr 2014 #75
hrmjustin Apr 2014 #77
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #78
hrmjustin Apr 2014 #79
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2014 #80
mgcgulfcoast Apr 2014 #81
Name removed May 2014 #82

Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:00 PM

1. I hope it works out.

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:04 PM

2. Cool.

I was just on a jury but never got results I assume that means the poster was shown the door.

I'd love to encourage people to sign your jury votes it makes you take a momement and really think about the consequences of your vote. Happy jury duty everyone!

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:31 PM

31. that's what I always do. if I can't come to a decision I'd be glad to put my name to, I opt out.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:38 PM

44. I thought we always get the results..?

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Response to Cha (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:40 PM

45. I did eventually get them, someone was dragging their feet.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 03:48 AM

64. This time it wasn't me, but other times it is.

I usually read a lot of the other posts in the thread, to get the context, and I usually find when I get the results that my comment was the longest.

The result is that I very often get an email about the results as soon as I submit my vote. I was the one holding up the parade.

Apologies in advance if I do that to you. Cultivate patience.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #64)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:47 AM

67. Cultivating away...

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:08 PM

3. Well that eliminates the issue of ties.

That took a rocket scientist. Or not.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:08 PM

4. Thanks. I think this is a good thing. n/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:11 PM

5. The famous juror #3 will now get replaced with 7!

 

I like it though, the bigger the jurry, the more likely to come up with a fair decision.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:22 PM

6. I just served on a jury.

It was on your post. Don't know whether to or

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:26 PM

8. hah..me too!

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Response to one_voice (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:28 PM

11. I was juror # 4.

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:19 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Seven-person juries go into effect today.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10133677

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Whining about DU's technical glitches.




j/k Want to see if there are any obvious glitches right off the bat and what better post to send to a 7 member jury than Skinner's announcement thread.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:25 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the most reasonable alert ever! El_Bryanto
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: WTF?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: LOL. LLP
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: hunh... whaaaaaaaaa???! is this one of those glitches or.......?
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation:

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:30 PM

12. lol..I was juror 1.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:31 PM

13. And "LLP" must have been La Lioness Priyanka.

I wonder who alerted. I bet that Skinner knows!

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:35 PM

16. I bet he does.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:38 PM

18. Unreal that someone would alert that, even as a joke.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #18)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:34 PM

32. oh i think it's hilarious!

Who did it? I'd love to go for coffee or a beer with you! Lololol.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #32)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:13 PM

47. I so agree. nm

 

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:59 AM

62. Me too.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:33 AM

63. ROFL! Confess!!!!

 

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Response to grahamhgreen (Reply #63)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:10 AM

72. or we will

PUT YOU IN.....THE COMFY CHAIR!
And poke you with THE SOFT PILLOWS!!!


BWAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAAAA!

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 10:56 AM

68. DUzy! Alerting on a Skinner op. Where's MIRT?

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #68)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:06 AM

71. LOL, I'm on MIRT!

We don't know who alerted. Skinner does, I am certain.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:27 PM

9. yeh, me too..

weird!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:26 PM

7. It will be an interesting experiment.

I expect to be called soon on one.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:28 PM

10. And the abuses of the jury system will just increase

 

and yes, that is my view on this.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:50 PM

22. Swarms

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 08:42 AM

76. Yep

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:31 PM

14. I pre-emptively vote "Leave" on every post in perpetuity

 

will this effect the new jury system?

I think my L:H ratio over time is 20:1 or so

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:36 PM

33. It won't effect the new jury system, but the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve

If you were to always vote "Leave", that means votes will only be hidden if 4 of the remaining jurors vote "Hide". In the old jury system that would be 80% of them (4 out of 5). However in the new system it will only be 66.7% (4 out of 6).

So I guess, in a sense, you will be turning the new juries that you participate in into something akin to the old juries which you did not participate in. So perhaps you could consider that being an effect upon the system.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:38 PM

35. that would be "affect" , not "effect" .

--Your friendly neighborhood grammar nazi.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:14 PM

51. Citizens Alert...Citizens Alert!!!

 

Blatant Barney Fife and Gomer Pyle reference...

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #51)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:17 PM

55. it is??

I bow to Barney Fife! King of Nerddom

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:48 PM

56. Yes he is isn't he!

 

I don't think there ever was anyone dorkier than Barney Fife...


NIIIITAAAAA....WAAAHAAAHAAA NIIIIITA!!!!!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:16 PM

52. In the first case, yes that's true

In the second case it is totally correct to say "the new jury system will effect juries on which you serve", but probably doesn't quite mean what the poster thought it did.

You're friendly neighborhood grammar nazi

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #52)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:16 PM

54. it's true! ....

I AM Friendly Neighborhood Grammar Nazi.




(case 2: good one!)

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #54)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:46 AM

66. You've always been friendly to me

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:06 AM

70. we grammar nazis are a friendly sort...

Until yourve gon over teh lion.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:34 PM

15. Awesome. Thanks for your dedication to this creation.

It is good to see.

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Response to riqster (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:16 PM

26. Nice summation of his creation dedication.

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Response to Orrex (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:23 PM

30. An elicitation and explanation, in summation.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:37 PM

17. To be clear, 4 to hide, 3 to leave will hide it, yes?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:40 PM

19. Yes. (nt)

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:47 PM

20. Excellent!

Thanks!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:48 PM

21. Thanks, Admins!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 03:57 PM

23. Makes Sense

No system is perfect (given the injection of people with their complex psychologies) into theoretical constructs/systems governing the adjudication of disputed tone and content, but this certainly seems like a sensible tweak to the existing system: ties are eliminated and the "magic number" of 7 seems just right (neither too large nor too small to render fast, fair verdicts most of the time).

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:06 PM

24. More the merrier. I'll feel better whenever I'm dead wrong and stuff.

Maybe.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:07 PM

25. Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!

I'm ready. Oh, too soon?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:17 PM

27. Can you make the 7-person jury retroactive?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:17 PM

28. Alerting

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:18 PM

29. I believe

this to be a good thing.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:36 PM

34. great decision!..thank you!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 04:51 PM

36. Booooooooooo to all jury systems.

 

Always hated them, and not just on DU.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:00 PM

37. Kick & highly recommended.

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Response to William769 (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:39 PM

40. Does highly recommended mean that it comes with catnip?



Let me take the next number.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:41 PM

42. A shot of Wild Turkey. Will that work?

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:26 PM

38. Got it. Thanks.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:37 PM

39. I don't think I'll fare well with a seven-person jury...

...therefore I should be exempt from any decision regarding my posts.

Hey! I'm a OnePercenter wannabee!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 05:39 PM

41. Good call. Thanks Skinner.

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:15 PM

43. If someone gets a 0-7 Leave

does that increase their alerting time out? Say to....36 hours? lol!

I was just on one!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:02 PM

46. Thanks Skinner, EarlG, and Elad.. Hope it works out, too.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:17 PM

48. I was hoping for the best six of eleven.

 

Last edited Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)

Just kidding. I appreciate the efforts you and other Admins go to, to make this a great message board. And I believe it is.

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Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:03 PM

50. Good! N/t

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 09:18 PM

53. I was on a jury about 1.5 hours ago and got no results back. n/t

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 10:59 PM

57. As far as I can tell, the last jury you served on was at 12:43 PM ET.

Were you on another one since then?

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Response to Skinner (Reply #57)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:44 AM

65. Yes I was

It was when I got on after getting home. The one around noon I was at work.

Unfortunately, I can't remember which trainwreck GD thread it was in.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:15 PM

58. That makes sense. Thanks, Skinner!

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:16 PM

59. I once served on four in one day.

 

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Thu Apr 3, 2014, 11:20 PM

60. Thank you!!

I'm sure this will be an improvement.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 12:39 AM

61. Thanks to Elad for all the hard work and the rest of you for caring about our opinions.

I hope it helps settle things down a bit. I also hope I don't end up with hidden posts now! Maybe we'll all try and be a little nicer now that a hide will be easier to get? Hey, a girl can dream...right?

Seriously, thanks for all the hard work coding this into reality. I know it doesn't happen on its own and appreciate the effort.

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 11:05 AM

69. Thank you, Skinner

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Fri Apr 4, 2014, 02:19 PM

73. As we bid farewell to the Three Stooges system, let us take a moment to reflect upon the good times.

 



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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Sat Apr 5, 2014, 03:57 PM

74. Is it me or are the more posts getting hidden?

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #74)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 07:23 AM

75. It's not you.

In the last day there were 20 alerts, and 13 were hidden. That's a much higher percentage hidden than usual.

What remains to be seen is whether it is a fluke or a trend.

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Response to Skinner (Reply #75)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 09:26 AM

77. Thanks.

 

I hope it is not a trend.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #77)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:56 AM

78. I am willing to bet it is a trend

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #78)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:00 AM

79. I think so as well but it may level out.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #79)

Sun Apr 6, 2014, 11:07 AM

80. Swarms are lovely

 

So eggshells it is

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Response to Skinner (Original post)

Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:58 AM

81. sounds good

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