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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:15 PM Dec 2017

The Pentagons Secret Search for UFOs

he Pentagon, at the direction of Congress, a decade ago quietly set up a multi-million dollar program to investigate what are popularly known as unidentified flying objects—UFOs.The “unidentified aerial phenomena” claimed to have been seen by pilots and other military personnel appeared vastly more advanced than those in American or foreign arsenals. In some cases they maneuvered so unusually and so fast that they seemed to defy the laws of physics, according to multiple sources directly involved in or briefed on the effort and a review of unclassified Defense Department and congressional documents.


The Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program, whose existence was not classified but operated with the knowledge of an extremely limited number of officials, was the brainchild of then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nevada), who first secured the appropriation to begin the program in 2009 with the support of the late Senators Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) and Republican Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), two World War II veterans who were similarly concerned about the potential national security implications, the sources involved in the effort said. The origins of the program, the existence of which the Pentagon confirmed on Friday, are being revealed publicly for the first time by POLITICO and the New York Times in nearly simultaneous reports on Saturday.

According to a Pentagon official, the AATIP program was ended “in the 2012 timeframe,” but it has recently attracted attention because of the resignation in early October of Luis Elizondo, the career intelligence officer who ran the initiative. In his resignation letter, addressed to Secretary of Defense James Mattis, Elizondo said the efforts of his program were not being taken sufficiently seriously. The Pentagon official could not confirm Mattis had actually seen the letter.

He described scores of unexplained sightings by Navy pilots and other observers of aircraft with capabilities far beyond what is currently considered aerodynamically possible. The sightings, Elizondo told POLITICO, were often reported in the vicinity of nuclear facilities, either ships at sea or power plants. "We had never seen anything like it."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111

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mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Seems they were concerned w/these objects not because they were piloted by aliens from outer space
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:30 PM
Dec 2017

but rather, by (quite terrestrial) foreign enemies ...

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
2. I recall Hillary,during the campaign, saying
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:33 PM
Dec 2017

that she believed in life beyond Earth and would be interested in checking it out if elected. She was sincere and rational. That is the 1,000,000,000th reason I voted for her. No other president has ever said that, at least in public, that I am aware of.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
3. I often wonder how much investigation is actually occurring and events are obfuscated to
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:57 PM
Dec 2017

create smoke screens and humor as a cover. Humans hardly understand the entire universe.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
4. How can humans explain this if we can't even figure out why
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:02 PM
Dec 2017

and how the fucking moron got elected. If Mueller nails him, then maybe he can start on UFOs next. Wasn't the guy on The X Files named Muller after all?

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
9. Little to no cover-up, I believe
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:38 PM
Dec 2017

I've spent time with SETI personnel and there are a handful of examples showing why it would be hard to hide it in the current world. Even signals that didn't pan out have resulted in unexpected phone calls from the New York Times to the SETI Institute.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
7. Plenty of rational people believe in life beyond Earth
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:33 PM
Dec 2017

They could mean anything from microbial life on Enceladus or Europa to any stage of life beyond that on one of millions of planets in our galaxy, at distances too far to make them matter to us right now beyond the philosophical. If we're ever going to find evidence of advanced, intelligent, technologically adept life then it will be by finding stray electromagnetic waves. That takes time and radio telescopes and money.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
11. Money?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 07:13 PM
Dec 2017

That means that Putin and his pals, the Mergers and the Koch will have to get on board since we all know that is where the money really comes from. At least as far as the GOP is concerned.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
8. Fascinating. Of course there are civilizations more advance than ours. Of course there
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 06:36 PM
Dec 2017

are other galaxies with intelligent life forms. I would imagine some of those aliens look a lot like us.

If we earthlings are afraid and resentful ogr each other because we have a different skin color or religion, we'd probably go ape shit crazy if we found out there were life forms more intelligent and more advanced than us.

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