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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:42 PM Dec 2017

The past year of research has made it very clear: Trump won because of racial resentment

The past year of research has made it very clear: Trump won because of racial resentment
Another study produces the same findings we’ve seen over and over again.
By German [email protected]@vox.com Dec 15, 2017, 2:40pm EST

More than a year after President Donald Trump won the election, there are still some questions about what drove him to victory: Was it genuine anxiety about the state of the economy? Or was it racism and racial resentment?

Over at the Washington Post, researchers Matthew Fowler, Vladimir Medenica, and Cathy Cohen have published the results of a new survey on these questions, with a focus on the 41 percent of white millennials who voted for Trump and the sense of “white vulnerability” that motivated them. The conclusion is very clear:

Contrary to what some have suggested, white millennial Trump voters were not in more economically precarious situations than non-Trump voters. Fully 86 percent of them reported being employed, a rate similar to non-Trump voters; and they were 14 percent less likely to be low income than white voters who did not support Trump. Employment and income were not significantly related to that sense of white vulnerability.

So what was? Racial resentment.

This is crucial to understanding both Trump’s rise and how to overcome Trump.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/12/15/16781222/trump-racism-economic-anxiety-study
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The past year of research has made it very clear: Trump won because of racial resentment (Original Post) workinclasszero Dec 2017 OP
For one thing, t-rump did not win the EC, it was rigged. Iliyah Dec 2017 #1
Yes is was Racial hatered. Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #2
It was a given that Jspur Dec 2017 #3
Agreed. Besides, most of them don't identify themselves as racist, MGKrebs Dec 2017 #9
The real motivator was racism: the excuse was HRC hate, and only the emails were enough. lindysalsagal Dec 2017 #4
being the first woman POTUS was going to be hard enough but especially after the first black POTUS underpants Dec 2017 #5
They would have tied up an HRC Presidency murielm99 Dec 2017 #6
Yeah I was considering the irony a while ago underpants Dec 2017 #10
This still generalizes and in so doing KPN Dec 2017 #7
So what are your suggestions? Blue_true Dec 2017 #11
My suggestion? Don't discount those particular voters. KPN Dec 2017 #13
Reasonable. nt Blue_true Dec 2017 #15
Since before the Civil War loyalsister Dec 2017 #16
Who says there is not overlap ("intertwine")? KPN Dec 2017 #17
Not challenging your argument loyalsister Dec 2017 #18
They were deplorables! kentuck Dec 2017 #8
So many dupes of the capitalists. They will live and die clueless McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #12
Bullshit-- he did not win for one thing triron Dec 2017 #14
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Yes is was Racial hatered.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 03:56 PM
Dec 2017

Fox News and Hate Radio kept up the Hate message for two years before. All one needed to know was this,when every you were discussing topics of the day with older White Neighbors, a theme of this is not the Country I grew up in. Bam! Code for those brown Skinned people are taking over,the real killer one was this one,how come that Guy got that High Paying Job. Well duh,did they ever think he or she was better qualified than the others who applied.

The other really ugly one is,them peoples are taking our jobs. Well duh,your Kids refused to do them jobs cause they might get their friggin hands dirty.


Jspur

(578 posts)
3. It was a given that
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:03 PM
Dec 2017

the majority of Trump voters were influenced by racism. Unfortunately I don't know of way you can combat their hate and win them over. I don't think it's possible and it's the reason why I feel Dems have to just focus on getting their base to show up for these elections.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
9. Agreed. Besides, most of them don't identify themselves as racist,
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:30 PM
Dec 2017

they think it's left wing smears.

In the end, it's the same old liberal vs. conservative: Liberals want to improve, get better, progress, conservatives want things to stay the way they are familiar with. All this "LGBTQ" stuff, and bathroom rules, and "African-American", it's all to complicated.

lindysalsagal

(20,584 posts)
4. The real motivator was racism: the excuse was HRC hate, and only the emails were enough.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

They'll find another excuse next time, and refuting it won't help: Because it's really the racism at work.

underpants

(182,624 posts)
5. being the first woman POTUS was going to be hard enough but especially after the first black POTUS
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

Interesting study

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
6. They would have tied up an HRC Presidency
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:21 PM
Dec 2017

any way they could. Impeachment would have been on the table.

She knew that. She wanted the job anyway.

underpants

(182,624 posts)
10. Yeah I was considering the irony a while ago
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:31 PM
Dec 2017

We can't have a President under federal investigation!!!
(Repeat until considered at least partially the truth/possible)

Has become

The people investigating the President are in a conspiracy!!!

KPN

(15,637 posts)
7. This still generalizes and in so doing
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:24 PM
Dec 2017

misses the essential truth that some white people voted for Trump because of their personal economic world experience. Yes, those whites who voted for Trump were 14% less likely to be low income than those whites who did not vote for Trump. So in other words, 14% more white voters who did vote for Trump were not low income as compared to those who did not vote for Trump. The stats speak for themselves -- not all 100% of white voters for Trump were above "low income" -- meaning SOME WERE!!

We -- the Democratic Party -- cannot and should not discount that fact. Economic discontent, downward mobility/poverty among whites, did play a role in Trump's election as well.

Ignoring this fact would be suicidal and harmful to our nation's democratic existence.

Yes, racial resentment played a large role, but there were many other factors as well. Calling it all racial is myopic and shortsighted.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. So what are your suggestions?
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 04:48 PM
Dec 2017

Hillary realized the problem and had plans for the economy that lifted everyone. But the Whites that voted for Trump wanted none of that. There is such a thing as White privilege. WP has favored Whites all of this country's history. A valid question that one could ask is given the corrosive effects or racism on non Whites and White privileged being a constant in American society why are there so many poor Whites? Were their ancestors lazy?

KPN

(15,637 posts)
13. My suggestion? Don't discount those particular voters.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 05:55 PM
Dec 2017

They have in their minds a valid issue and concern re: the establishment in both parties having ignored working class economic impacts of economic and taxation policies over the previous 35 years. They were looking for someone from outside the establishment. The party platform/Hillary's campaign positions were not sufficient in the face of distrust for the "system". We have to earn that trust back by nominating fresh faces and once elected/in power meeting campaign promises and showing results.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
16. Since before the Civil War
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:48 PM
Dec 2017

The standard racist argument has always been based on economic threat that the chosen "other" (minorities, immigrants, or women) will steal jobs.
I think pretending that they are not intertwined is a mistake.

KPN

(15,637 posts)
17. Who says there is not overlap ("intertwine")?
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 07:45 AM
Dec 2017

That in no way negates or discredits my point. We need to be realistic about this if we hope to build a lasting victory.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
18. Not challenging your argument
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 04:57 PM
Dec 2017

I was making a point that I thought reinforced it. One thing that is ignored when people point out that middle class white people voted for Trump is that they fear poverty. It is not simply hatred of people of color, it is rooted in the economic argument that convinced white people that the Civil War was a good idea. They feared lower wages if slaves could work for money. It became a basic tenet that has been built into the ideology that manipulates people who are simultaneously privileged and oppressed.

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