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Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:07 PM

I heard Chris Matthews call jones

A conservative Democrat?

Any chance he votes yes in a trump issue

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:08 PM

1. Fuck Chris Matthews. nt

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:12 PM

2. Matthews is probably correct... it is Alabama, after all...

...and NO, I do not think Jones would vote for anything tRumpian*.

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Response to Raster (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:26 PM

7. Not sure but may have inadvertently sent an alert. Still new to DU.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:27 PM

8. No worries.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:13 PM

3. He's a blathering idiot. n/t.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:14 PM

4. Consider the following language (from his website)

The consequences of our unchecked use of fossil fuels for our planet and our health have been clear for decades. Period. Clean air and clean water are not controversial. They are essential to our health, our prosperity, and our quality of life. We should be encouraging investment in renewable energy and conservation as ways to create new jobs and make ourselves energy independent.

Having said that, I fully appreciate and understand the impacts that environmental regulations have had on many people and businesses. I am the son of a steelworker and the grandson of a coal miner. I have enormous sympathy with the families in our state that have seen their incomes decline or their jobs vanish as coal prices have dropped. Rather than promise that miners can return for generations to dangerous, scarcely regulated jobs, I believe America must step up to provide a safety net of health care and job retraining for these workers and prepare all children in Alabama for a 21st century economy.


I have no doubt that, by the standards here, he's generally conservative.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:17 PM

5. He's probably more conservative than most Democrats here would like.

But when you're running in Alabama, you're pretty unlikely to go far if you're a hard Democrat.

And he's a far better alternative than someone like Roy Moore, who is far right.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:25 PM

6. hmmmm

 

Senator Jones says....
1. "I am proud of my service as U.S. Attorney, and am proud to have successfully taken on the Ku Klux Klan, terrorists like Eric Rudolph, and many others who sought to use fear, hatred, and violence to inhibit the rights of others." I believe that we are all created equal in the eyes of the Lord and the law. While we have made progress on civil rights as a nation, we cannot be complacent with continued threats to equality and justice. The racially motivated Charleston church massacre and Charlottesville are stark reminders of that continued threat. I believe that the United States of America is a land of laws, justice, freedom, equality, and opportunity.

I will take those values to Washington, and keep fighting for what’s right – whether it’s popular or not.

2. Millions of Americans have obtained health care through the Affordable Care Act. Reasonable people on both sides of the aisle know the law, which brought the level of uninsured Americans to a record low, needs improvement.

However, I am disturbed about repeated efforts to repeal the bill or weaken it, leaving as many as 32 million more Americans without insurance, driving up rates for others and likely leading to the closure of more rural health care facilities vital in many regions of Alabama. That is a nonstarter. As a senator, I would adamantly oppose any proposal that does not protect Alabamians from rising healthcare costs, higher premiums, and out-of-pocket expenses while ensuring those with preexisting conditions cannot be denied coverage or charged more.

3. The most productive, innovative people I know are entrepreneurs who have had the courage to turn an idea into a business that makes their community better and grows jobs. Small businesses are truly the backbone of the American economy.

4. People in Alabama should not have to work two or three jobs just to provide food, housing and other necessities for their families, often foregoing healthcare and other needs. I strongly support ensuring working Alabamians receive a living wage for their hard work. It is past time. They are then less reliant on the government and those dollars help lift the economy.

5. Equal Pay for Equal Work
Today’s champion for equal pay is Lilly Ledbetter and her battle for equality in Gadsden, Alabama. In the Senate, I will work to extend the spirit of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act to make it mandatory that two people, doing the same job with the same qualifications, are paid equally – regardless of their gender.

6. State and local government spending on jails and prisons has risen at more than three times the spending on education in the last two and a half decades. We can do better. We must do better.

More spending on education could result in less spending on prisons.
While I sought harsh punishments for violent offenders as U.S. attorney, not all cases require severe sentences. My hands were tied by mandatory minimum sentences during my time with the Justice Department. Judges and prosecutors should be given flexibility and be empowered to decide the fate of those before them in the justice system.

ETC, ETC, ETC... not too "trumpesian to me"

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Response to rtracey (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:30 PM

10. While I'm sure he won't be another Warren or Sanders

I don't think he's going to be a Richard Shelby or Howell Hefflin, either. Isn't Shelby the guy that was a conservative Democrat who changed to Republican in the 90s?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:19 PM

12. yes

 

yes he did..

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:25 PM

15. Yes. He also helped Doug Jones somewhat yesterday, by announcing he wouldn't vote for Moore.

 

Shelby always looks wicked angry-he's usually photographed glaring at someone and fighting the impulse to beat whoever he's glaring at with a tire iron or something.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:28 PM

9. Jones called for the renewal of CHIP right in his victory speech

Imo, it was a strong message that didn't sound like a conservative Dem.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 03:33 PM

11. This is one of the 999,999 times out of a million that Matthews is wrong

When he very rarely gets one right, DU hoists him onto its shoulders and carries him around the village square in triumph.

But then he reverts to his real self, and the cycle begins anew.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:22 PM

13. He's the closest to a progressive that's ever won an Alabama Senate seat.

 

The only figure who was even remotely comparable was Lister Hill-who supported some social programs(while remaining a segregationist, of course-he was in from the late Thirties to the late Sixties.

Doug Jones is extremely liberal by Alabama standards, and is probably a marker that greater change is coming in that state's politics.


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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:23 PM

14. He will be a Bill Nelson like bluedog most likely. nt

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