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Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:44 PM

My opinion Al Franken should take one on the chin for the people of MN and DO NOT RESIGN

With all the shit happening in this country we REALLY REALLY REALLY need him and his creativity! I wish all the senators that asked him to step down would WITHDRAW there recommendation PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply My opinion Al Franken should take one on the chin for the people of MN and DO NOT RESIGN (Original post)
bluestarone Dec 2017 OP
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #1
bluestarone Dec 2017 #3
brokephibroke Dec 2017 #2
Name removed Dec 2017 #4
ashling Dec 2017 #19
JimBeard Dec 2017 #37
suegeo Dec 2017 #26
riverwalker Dec 2017 #35
Bayard Dec 2017 #5
bluestarone Dec 2017 #6
Alice11111 Dec 2017 #12
LiberalLovinLug Dec 2017 #13
Little Star Dec 2017 #7
mudstump Dec 2017 #8
ananda Dec 2017 #9
Alice11111 Dec 2017 #11
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #10
nuxvomica Dec 2017 #14
Egnever Dec 2017 #34
disndat Dec 2017 #15
nuxvomica Dec 2017 #17
LanternWaste Dec 2017 #20
Hortensis Dec 2017 #21
riverwalker Dec 2017 #36
suegeo Dec 2017 #27
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #28
bluestarone Dec 2017 #31
Glorfindel Dec 2017 #16
Skittles Dec 2017 #18
stuffmatters Dec 2017 #22
bluestarone Dec 2017 #24
stuffmatters Dec 2017 #25
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #30
suegeo Dec 2017 #32
MrPurple Dec 2017 #23
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #29
bluestarone Dec 2017 #33
MrPurple Dec 2017 #41
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #42
JimBeard Dec 2017 #38
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #43
Danascot Dec 2017 #39
bluestarone Dec 2017 #40

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:47 PM

1. Agree with your opinion but not your spelling. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:51 PM

3. TY

for that

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 02:48 PM

2. He should resign once Moore and trump resign

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Response to brokephibroke (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:48 PM

19. He should not resign. Period.

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Response to ashling (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:41 PM

37. I agree

 

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Response to brokephibroke (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:02 PM

26. Why the f**k should he resign at all?

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What crime did he commit? I want to see the testimony of his accusers. Is there testimony? Or did someone like a Kim Davis type make something up? Are we really suppose to believe the republicans, who are in bed with putin and will stop at nothing, would never play a dirty trick?

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Response to suegeo (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:03 PM

35. Well he drew devil horns on Leeanns picture!

Seriously, that’s in her statement of “sexual harassment”. She said he was jealous she had more people in line for autographs so for spite he drew devil horns on her pictures. (Even though in photos it shows he has long lines of soldiers waiting to meet him for autographs). Seriously, she is complaining about this. HE DREW DEVILHORNS ON MY PICTURES!!!! What is she, in second grade?

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:03 PM

5. This is why I had to get off DU the past several days

The Franken situation made me so furious. Made much worse by getting eaten alive by his own party--assumed guilty with no proof--and some people on here. We need AL desperately, and I can only hope he doesn't officially resign.

This was a bullshit smear campaign.

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:10 PM

6. MAN i do

HEAR YOU!! Glad your back

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:55 PM

12. !!!

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:02 PM

13. Its been difficult

We have been hit hard in the gut ever since November of 2016. Its all been coming from the other side. So that is why this sucker punch from behind us, those we thought were on our side, is so difficult to live with.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:17 PM

7. He should not resign! That's this Masschusetts woman's opinion.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:37 PM

8. Senator Franken should stay and fight...

The dems need more fighters...not less.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:47 PM

9. And for me and the people of every state!

He was one of our outstanding champions..
and he's a good guy .. obviously and clearly
NOT a sexual predator!

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Response to ananda (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:54 PM

11. !!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 03:48 PM

10. I hope lots of Minnesotans ask him to rescind his resignation.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:11 PM

14. Putting Franken in the same bucket with Trump and Moore

only serves to dilute the caustic nature of the contents. I don't think that is unforeseen, that Roger Stone et al knew what they were doing when they started this. Smear everyone and the worst don't look as bad as they really are to some folks. I think the time is now to draw a distinction between the subjective and ambiguous, and the downright predatory. We can all see the difference, can't we? Zero tolerance never solved any problem; it is the laziest form of morality. And there are other moral principles at stake here, like Franken's right to a fair hearing, a right he has earned!

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Response to nuxvomica (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:32 PM

34. Well said

 

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:19 PM

15. Here are some of the reasons Al Franken should not resign

1 His main accuser, LeeAnn Tweeden is suspect. She had connections to top Trump Republicans.
She was a long time twitter buddy of Don Jr.
2. Al Franken was ousted led by Gillibrand before Franken had a chance to appear before the Ethics Committee
as he had requested to answer the accusations.
3. Only 2 of the 8 accusers gave their names
4. Al Franken's Senate staff who had worked under him for over 9 years wrote a letter attesting to Franken's integrity
together with the pleasure of working for him.

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Response to disndat (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:41 PM

17. Actually 4 out of 8 gave their names

Three Trump supporters and Tina Dupuy, whose story makes no sense on the face of it and came after the resignation demand. The critical story was #7 which Franken categorically denied. Your fourth point is unique among these situations. 130 woman came forward defending Franken. I think we should listen to them too.

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Response to disndat (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:50 PM

20. What specifically leads you to allege Tweeden is his "main accuser?"

 

What specifically leads you to allege Tweeden is his "main accuser?"

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:15 PM

21. Good point. :) Now me, I'm biased against her because she's

been a Fox (Hannity!) talking head, and she denounced first, so I also tend to think of her as the main accuser. And what seemed like overblown histrionics coming after the restraint of the Moore accusers irritated me, always good for impact but not good judgement.

Of course, you're right. though. Why would any one be a "main"? Although I doubt I can sincerely rehab that one who claimed he asked her to meet him in a toilet stall to a dispassionate equality with the rest.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:09 PM

36. Because it was dramatic and gave other benign claims validity

The others were so vague and some ridiculous like the “hand on waist for photo” they would have been ignored if not for Tweedens dramatic claim of “groping” (her words, even though photo shows not touching) and photo.

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Response to disndat (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:12 PM

27. The punishment for committing the offense

Should be proportional to the offence.

Why take one of the most severe forms of punishment for ALLEDGED offences that appear to not be sexual assault or sexual harassment. From a gal pal of that manatee Hannity?

My vote in Minnesota was stolen from me by Democrats, stupid enough to fall for republican/Russian dirty tricks. I'm livid

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Response to suegeo (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:16 PM

28. On behalf of my neighborhood manatees I strongly object to your

language.

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Response to suegeo (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:19 PM

31. yea and Al was

in until 2020 right?? what a super BAD DEAL this is! this has to be UNDONE! COME-ON senators BEG AL Franken to STAY!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:24 PM

16. Why would he want to stay and endure the insults and abuse from his OWN PARTY?

I wouldn't do it, but I'm not nearly as good a person as Senator Franken. Of course we need him, but, sincerely, do we deserve him? Well, I'm not from Minnesota, so my opinion is pretty much meaningless anyway, but hasn't he "taken it on the chin" enough?

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 04:45 PM

18. because he is NOT GUILTY

he needs to stand up for justice and not cave into this political hit job

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:24 PM

22. Why can't The Dem Senate recant, have the maturity to say "we made a mistake

Senator Franken deserves the due process of an ethics investigation."

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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:32 PM

24. yes

this

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:54 PM

25. Unlike the Repugs, Democrats are supposed to be a Party that honestly admits its mistakes

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I just hope at least one of the Senators bravely steps forward and starts the ball rolling before it's too late.. Doesn't even have to
flat out admit a mistake, just say " I feel we decided prematurely."


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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:19 PM

30. It would take a miracle to "unlie" them. It's their life's work and reason for being. n/t

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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:20 PM

32. That's an excellent start

Recant, it was a stupid rush to judgment. I would also like an apology to the people of Minnesota from Dem party leaders for denying us the opportunity to decide.

Especially since I am not altogether convinced that some of these leaders might not be smart enough to not eat paste, let alone being the judge jury and exequitioner of the intelligent Mr Franken I base my suspicions on their complete bumbling of this affair

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 05:32 PM

23. I don't want to lose Al, but don't think he can go back on his announcement

Hopefully, some good investigative journalists will reveal definitively that the charges against him are a bogus smear and after his name is cleared, he will be re-elected.

After seeing that he was the most effective Democrat during the confirmation hearings, I really don't want to see him go. I'd hoped to have the chance to vote for him on a Presidential primary ballot.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:18 PM

29. "Coming weeks" leaves some wiggle room. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 06:30 PM

33. just enough

wiggle room and that's all it takes.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:55 PM

41. He'll look like a weasel if he waits til after the Moore election & then backs out

That's why he won't do it. I think he needs to get his name cleared before he can run again.

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Response to MrPurple (Reply #41)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:09 PM

42. What do the people who railroaded him look like? n/t

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 07:55 PM

38. What kind of Democrat are you?

 

Me.....
Environmental............ Democrat *
Healthcare ............ Democrat *
Social Security & Welfare ... Democrat *
Agriculture ............Democrat. *
Tax structure ........ Democrat. *
LGBT ....................None
Feminism............Could give a shit less.

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Response to JimBeard (Reply #38)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 09:11 PM

43. That'll stir things up. n/t

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:05 PM

39. Governor Dayton should appoint

Al Franken

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Response to Danascot (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 12, 2017, 08:38 PM

40. i would truly

come uncorked if he did

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