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Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:31 PM

What the hell are we going to do to un-brainwash the 32% of this country still likes this douche b

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Reply What the hell are we going to do to un-brainwash the 32% of this country still likes this douche b (Original post)
mahina Dec 2017 OP
chillfactor Dec 2017 #1
Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2017 #9
Name removed Dec 2017 #26
Zorro Dec 2017 #31
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #2
mahina Dec 2017 #3
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #6
LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #4
roamer65 Dec 2017 #5
still_one Dec 2017 #7
msongs Dec 2017 #8
Cicada Dec 2017 #10
maxrandb Dec 2017 #11
Marengo Dec 2017 #43
maxrandb Dec 2017 #46
Marengo Dec 2017 #49
maxrandb Dec 2017 #52
Marengo Dec 2017 #53
RainCaster Dec 2017 #12
cwydro Dec 2017 #13
Awsi Dooger Dec 2017 #14
maxrandb Dec 2017 #48
Different Drummer Dec 2017 #15
roamer65 Dec 2017 #23
dhol82 Dec 2017 #51
WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2017 #16
noel1237 Dec 2017 #17
Iahotdog Dec 2017 #18
Takket Dec 2017 #19
mahina Dec 2017 #22
budkin Dec 2017 #20
Abouttime Dec 2017 #33
mahina Dec 2017 #35
Marengo Dec 2017 #45
NightWatcher Dec 2017 #21
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #28
Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #24
mahina Dec 2017 #36
Blue_true Dec 2017 #25
napi21 Dec 2017 #27
mahina Dec 2017 #37
sharedvalues Dec 2017 #29
sharedvalues Dec 2017 #30
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #32
McCamy Taylor Dec 2017 #34
JCMach1 Dec 2017 #38
Garrett78 Dec 2017 #39
Lil Missy Dec 2017 #40
area51 Dec 2017 #41
Books_Tea_Alone Dec 2017 #42
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #44
GreenEyedLefty Dec 2017 #47
kentuck Dec 2017 #50
treestar Dec 2017 #54
Fluke a Snooker Dec 2017 #55
struggle4progress Dec 2017 #56
dawg Dec 2017 #57

Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:34 PM

1. can't be done..

that 32% is brian dead.

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:09 PM

9. This

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Response to chillfactor (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:13 AM

31. Brian dead. I like that.

Works with "Get a brian, morans!"

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:34 PM

2. This poll makes no sense and is close to unintelligble.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:41 PM

3. I can only read half the screen at a time and am not the best at typing with my thumbs.

Maybe you have some ideas about how we can bring back a reality-based civil society. If you care to share your thoughts, I would be interested to read them.

In case youíre interested, here are links to some people and pegs involved in community peacemaking and reconciliation.

http://www.aeinstein.org
The Albert Einstein Institution works to advance the worldwide study and strategic use of nonviolent action. Our work on this topic has been translated into dozens of languages. Visit our online library to access all currently available digital resources.

https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Peace-Transforming-Conflict
World/dp/0756768128


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Response to mahina (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:45 PM

6. My idea is this is not going to end well and it gets uglier to watch every day.

Last edited Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:02 AM - Edit history (1)

I could not possibly post from a phone. Mine was 8 bucks at Walgreens and folds in the middle.

Good luck to us all.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:42 PM

4. Hound them to HELL

Make their life miserable.

Drive them underground so they never see the light of day.

By the way. They can't be un-brainwashed.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:43 PM

5. He will go as low as about 24 pct.

That is the true amount of deplorable, brainwashed, backwash established by Nixon in August 1974.

Those cannot be redeemed.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:46 PM

7. Until the media stops legitimate zing racism, sexism, and bigotry, it wont change

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:05 PM

8. better to get them to not vote for repubs for congress. let em love trump, congress is the bad crowd

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:22 PM

10. Wait for them to die

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:23 PM

11. They didn't need to be brainwashed

They actually believe and support the shit Donnie Short Fingers and the Retrumplican party is feeding them.

I have a solution for them. It's called prison!

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:42 AM

43. You want to imprison people based on how they voted?

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Response to Marengo (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:34 AM

46. Yes

That's what the election of Donnie Short Fingers has done to me.

I can't find a single redeeming quality in any of the people that voted for and support this fascist shitstain.

They need to be treated like the Vichy French

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #46)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:14 AM

49. What about those who didnt vote, or voted third party? Arent they just as culpable?

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Response to Marengo (Reply #49)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:47 AM

52. No

Voting for Donnie Short Fingers was not an accident.

It's not like they were walking down the street, tripped, fell into a voting booth and accidentally hit their head on the Trump button.

It was a conscious, premeditated action. They listened to all that hate, bigotry, bullying, racism and fascism and said; "sure, that's the direction I want the country to go"

Fuck every last one of them sideways with a First Edition hard cover copy of Atlas Shrugged.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:13 AM

53. Abstaining from voting for ideological reasons or voting third party were also conscious and...

Premeditated actions that helped place Trump in office. Refusing to vote against the obvious hate, racism, etc. is just as responsible.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:25 PM

12. You can't fix stupid

They are idiots who do not have a basis in reality. We can only show them by example- first we have to outnumber them in the voting booth. Then perhaps they will see that their well being actually got better when we took more taxes from the top 1%.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:28 PM

13. There are people who dont vote ever.

These folks can change things.

How can we get them to get off their butts am register, then vote?

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:31 PM

14. Be satisfied

We'll win everything of consequence as long as Trump remains in the 32% range.

I post on sports message boards every day. Those forums are loaded with right wing morons and you would think it was closer to 92% support based on that sample alone. I'm always thrilled to find out it's still low 30s.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:41 AM

48. Still waiting to see the wins

Lost on welfare tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires

Lost on Supreme Court

Lost on the fascist judges being packed in the Federal Court

Lost on Muslim ban

Lost on police reform

Lost on consumer protection

Lost on dumping chemical waste in the gulf of Mexico

Lost on the environment

And... we're about to replace a champion of woman's rights in the Senate with a pedophile

And folks wonder why I feel Retrumplican deplorable voters should face prison for what they've done to our country

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:35 PM

15. Find a way to get Fox News off the air.

That's the only solution I see.

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:29 PM

23. Reinstate the fairness doctrine.

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:23 AM

51. Also find some way to control hate radio

Thatís had as much influence as Fox.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:38 PM

16. They're not the ones to worry about.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:48 PM

17. I don't trust polls after the election, the brainwash % is higher

 

and I don't have a good answer to change it.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:03 PM

18. Get as many of the remaining 68% to vote democratic

and show them what irrelevant feels like.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:06 PM

19. we drag them, kicking and screaming, to freedom and prosperity...........

we out number them 2 to 1............... GOTV

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Response to Takket (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:26 PM

22. Oh man, I read you 100%. So just like we've done before, knock on doors,

remind again to vote, then drive them to the polls.

I'll dust off my clipboard!

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:07 PM

20. It's a lost cause.

He could literally sacrifice a baby on live TV and they would love him even more.

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Response to budkin (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:31 AM

33. You're right

 

Every society reaches the point where some sort of 'purge' is necessary otherwise a war breaks out. War has been an all to frequent theme in human history.
I think unfortunately we will come to a point, maybe trump has already forced us there, where we will have to peacefully, re-educate, reform, or restrain a significant portion of that third of society who sees and deals with the world the wrong way.
Luckily the two thirds of us who see things the right way are compassionate and instead of a bloody war we can engineer a peaceful solution.

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:06 AM

35. What the hell dude.

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Response to Abouttime (Reply #33)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:57 AM

45. How would this purge work? What criteria would be used to determine if someone needs purging?

Would they be physically separated from rest of society? What government agencies would be responsible for purging? What kind of peaceful solution would be applied to those who resist purging?

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:08 PM

21. Put birth control in their Mountain Dew?

Then our kid's generation won't have to deal with these schmucks' kids.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:04 AM

28. They put Mountain Dew in their baby's bottle. That'd be cruel. It's bad enough

their milk teeth rot.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:40 PM

24. They aren't brainwashed, they're assholes

 

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Response to Sen. Walter Sobchak (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:08 AM

36. +1

Got a laugh out of me, thanks. Too true.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:46 PM

25. Think that 68% of Americans dislike him to a large extent.

Get the 68% voting regularly and the 32% won't matter.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:00 AM

27. Absolutely NOTHING! I remember when Nixon was forced to resign. There were about the same

30% of Pubs who still liked him and demonstrated against him being ousted. In fact those same people, if still alive, probably still like him and believe what was done to him was wrong. Con man's approval #s have been slowly falling over the 11 months he's beden in office. We MUST win back the House & Senate and give him the old heave-ho.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #27)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:09 AM

37. Got you but its taken this much for him to get there.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:05 AM

29. We can do it. We need to engage on Fox, Limbaugh, right-wing radio. Tell your friends.

The best way to un-brainwash the country is for each one of us to go out and tell everyone we know to stop watching Fox and listening to Limbaugh and right-wing radio.

When you go somewhere and Fox is on - walk up to the owner and say something like "I don't want lies like this on while my kids are around, will you please turn off the TV?"

Instead of talking to your family members about politics - tell them how Limbaugh lies. "Remember when Limbaugh said Hurricane Irma was a liberal hoax and then three days later he evacuated without ever correcting himself? He tells lies about politics like that every day."

I know it's uncomfortable. But if you want to un-brainwash people you MUST engage them on propaganda. Friends don't let friends watch Fox or listen to Limbaugh or read Breitbart or other right wing sources.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:07 AM

30. Another line about Fox

"If people love America, they shouldn't listen to lies orchestrated by an Australian. Rupert Murdoch is a foreigner who is lying to America to put more money in his pocket by getting votes for tax cuts on billionaires"

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:19 AM

32. Since they are running the show

I am concerned they are asking the same question about us.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:25 AM

34. First, we have to understand them.

Read "Bandits" by Eric Hobsbawn.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:17 AM

38. 0% chance

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:24 AM

39. Even if a few could be reached, the amount of time and effort would be too great a price to pay.

These are folks who will spite themselves if it means hurting persons of color to a greater extent, people who don't care that Trump openly bragged about committing sexual assault, people who believe wholeheartedly in absurdly nonsensical religious notions, etc.

Time is better spent getting involved in local civil rights organizations, raising hell about voter suppression and gerrymandering, increasing turnout among the young and others, raising hell about kleptocracy, etc.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:35 AM

40. Nothing. There is no cure for stupid.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:06 AM

41. From what I've read in the past,

at least 30% of the US population would be happy to have fascism in this country.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:28 AM

42. It's all about racism

Every deplorable I know here in northern New Jersey, including my family and neighbors, have expressed extreme racist views towards African-Americans & Hispanics. These people are wealthy and educated but as stated above watch faux news and hated the fact that we had an African- American President for eight yrs.
A woman didn't stand much of a chance in their eyes either.
They will never change their racist views & pass it down to their children. They are unreachable and are not able to be reasoned with or changed.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:51 AM

44. No way to do it.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:39 AM

47. Wait for them to die?

A significant percentage of Trump voters are older white people.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:16 AM

50. The 32% is not the problem.

It is the 16% that follow the 32%. The simple-minded partisans that always follow their Party, no matter what.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:16 AM

54. Something that teaches them that reality matters

Trying to brainstorm this.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 05:42 PM

55. We ARE beating this, just not in ways you can readily see

 

All over the country, Democrats and progressives have been taking over city councils, mayorships, school boards, and country supervisor positions, as well as making inroads on statewide legislative offices. For instance, in Westchester County, just outside of NYC, the Democrats swept all but TWO seats in EVERY city in every council member and mayor race, and while they were Democrat majority already, they had swept out EVERY republican from office, making this a progressive lockdown that will never go back.

This is happening ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

While we will get a big win in 2018 when we retake the senate, the hammer blow will occur when we win the presidency with Kamala Harris, indict every Trump family member, and retake the Senate with a near-60% majority, along with a healthy House majority. At that point, the Republicans will be COMPLETELY spent, and our guys will enact judicial reforms and restructure voting protocols to ensure the GOP remains forever on the outside looking in.

Mark my words! The GOP is definitely snookered, permanently.

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:49 PM

56. Don't worry about them for now. Nixon never went below 24%

though after his resignation it was difficult to find people who would admit voting for him

Some diehard Trump supporters will never change their minds

Others will experience inner conflicts; then they'll move to weak support for him; then they'll move to into some "uncertain" position (such as refused-to-answer-pollster or all-politicians-are-crooks); then they'll head for weak opposition to him. This group might well be influenced by friends and neighbors drifting from Trumplandia into saner regions, so take aim at the mushy center

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Response to mahina (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:55 PM

57. They only understand strength and cruelty.

When we're back in power, they would cower to us if we act strong and cruel enough. Thankfully, that isn't in our nature.

Personally, I'm just hoping that the failure of Trumpism will permanently discourage a significant number of these people from ever getting involved in the political process again. I'll be more than satisfied for them to slink off into their holes, muttering "it's all rigged". I know we'll never get them to embrace our values.

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