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Sat Jul 21, 2012, 08:59 PM

Just as a point of information, Not the first Mass Killer named Holmes..

This one is H.H.Holmes.
He was also meticulous in his planning. Read his bio ( Many know of him]...
Be warned..it isn't pretty..Some say he killed over 200..but that was in 1893.
During the Chicago World's Fair..

If you want to know more...
Larson, Erik (2003). The Devil in the White City. Crown. ISBN 978-0-609-60844-9.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes

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Reply Just as a point of information, Not the first Mass Killer named Holmes.. (Original post)
Stuart G Jul 2012 OP
DURHAM D Jul 2012 #1
Stuart G Jul 2012 #2
arcane1 Jul 2012 #3
Poiuyt Jul 2012 #6
arcane1 Jul 2012 #4
freshwest Jul 2012 #5

Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:12 PM

1. well that was seriously creepy

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:19 PM

2. I knew about this guy for a long time.

But about an hour ago, I realized this guy has the same last name. I hope no one is offended.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:46 PM

3. It won't offend me, my middle name is "Wayne"

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:20 PM

6. Like John Wayne Gacy?

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:50 PM

4. This is the first time I've ever heard of a serial killer with a profit motive

 

Seriously creepy

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:10 PM

5. Get really to be grossed out. Two or more examples. I remember the first. He changed our habits:

Ronald Clark O'Bryan (nicknamed The Candyman) (October 19, 1944 March 31, 1984) was a murderer from Deer Park, Texas convicted of killing his eight-year-old son Timothy on Halloween, 1974 with cyanide-laced candy in order to claim life insurance money. He may have also distributed poisoned candy to other children in an attempt to cover up his crime. However, Elizabeth, his daughter, and none of the other children ate any of the poisoned candy...

O'Bryan was executed on March 31, 1984 by lethal injection.[2] After O'Bryan's crimes became public, Halloween safety programs were implemented in Deer Park, teaching parents methods for evaluating the safety of door-to-door treats by visual inspection.

During the execution, a crowd of college students wearing Halloween masks showed up to cheer.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_O%27Bryan

It changed the way people allowed their children to go from door to door on Halloween. A few copy cats then did some other things, such as putting razor blades in apples, afterward and hospitals x-rayed bags of candy for free. Although O'Bryan's attorneys argued that setting his date of execution on Halloween was cruel and unusual punishment. Many felt it was poetic justice and he was executed on that day.

There was a much worse one that people still remember, in the area, of the John Wayne Gacy sort. The death penalty was not in force and it was reported relatives of the victims asked for him to let out on parole. In order to kill him themselves.

This guy H. H. Holmes was remarkable, really bad stuff. There was a profit motive but only of a slight nature by some serial killers in the Pacific northwest. All quite grotesque. And there is the case of Ayn Rand's hero, William Hickman, as bad as Holmes. I won't post the details, here is the link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Edward_Hickman

A more complete list of details and linke, and Ayn Rand's infatuation with him, and that of her writings by Paul Ryan, Alan Greenspan, Clarence Thomas and the Teabaggers:

http://www.alternet.org/books/145819/ayn_rand%2C_hugely_popular_author_and_inspiration_to_right-wing_leaders%2C_was_a_big_admirer_of_serial_killers?page=entire




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