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Thu Dec 7, 2017, 07:37 PM

Our Democratic leadership and Senators jumped the gun

– His initial, and by far the most critical accuser, Leeann Tweeden, was able to have her story fully accepted by the news media, without a hint of vetting, because she posted it on the website of her new radio station, an outlet with almost literally no ratings, or legitimate news operation.

– Her connections to Sean Hannity, Roger Stone’s tweet foreshadowing her announcement, and her own radio station admitting they strategized the best way to make the story go viral, were never fully analyzed.

– The media, presumably out of fear of “victim shaming” never even mentioned that prior to starting her brand-new career as a “news anchor,” that Tweeden was a nude model, which goes to the context of why she was on the 2006 USO tour, her lack of presumed journalistic credibility, and her willingness to do almost anything for attention/money.


https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/the-most-mind-blowing-aspects-of-al-frankens-demise

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Reply Our Democratic leadership and Senators jumped the gun (Original post)
SHRED Dec 2017 OP
blimablam Dec 2017 #1
SHRED Dec 2017 #3
wellst0nev0ter Dec 2017 #18
SHRED Dec 2017 #19
Name removed Dec 2017 #4
OhioBlue Dec 2017 #2
PufPuf23 Dec 2017 #5
FuzzyRabbit Dec 2017 #10
enough Dec 2017 #12
dflprincess Dec 2017 #22
liberal_patriot_md Dec 2017 #24
PufPuf23 Dec 2017 #25
Bibluca Dec 2017 #6
SHRED Dec 2017 #7
dchill Dec 2017 #26
pangaia Dec 2017 #29
Skittles Dec 2017 #8
Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #11
SHRED Dec 2017 #14
Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #33
Loki Liesmith Dec 2017 #30
Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #9
Generic Brad Dec 2017 #13
Susan Calvin Dec 2017 #17
BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #15
LakeArenal Dec 2017 #16
Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #20
spanone Dec 2017 #21
Stinky The Clown Dec 2017 #23
dalton99a Dec 2017 #31
OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2017 #27
Phonebank4Tendies Dec 2017 #28
regnaD kciN Dec 2017 #32

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 07:41 PM

1. Jumped the shark is what I think you meant. ;)

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Response to SHRED (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:01 PM

18. ...

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Response to wellst0nev0ter (Reply #18)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:02 PM

19. LOL

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 07:43 PM

2. Yes they did!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:28 PM

5. The "Democratic leadership and Senators" did exactly what they wanted to do;

they removed Al Franken from the political equation moving forward.

Franken was a threat to their status quo.

A Democratic party member who is prone to question the status quo is more danger and merits more action than a GOP that commits felonies, be it sex crimes or war crimes or financial conflicts of interest of questionable legality.

This should be obvious and needs to be addressed. if we are going to start winning elections again and advance the stated Democratic agendas.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:41 PM

10. BINGO!

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:48 PM

12. Yes. NT

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:11 PM

22. Exactly. nt

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 12:37 AM

24. Yep.

Read his book. He was never made part of the club.
They didn’t like him.

Then he was getting attention for his actions and challenges to Trump. Talk of running for President. They didn’t like that.

His was a safe seat. So they were not worried about replacing him. They let the clouds gather and took his umbrella of support away.

That’s why they let him go.

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Response to liberal_patriot_md (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:14 AM

25. That is exactly how I see the situation.

Franken did the correct thing and suggest an ethics investigation but other Democrats did not allow that course not hold far worse and obviously guilty GOP (Trump, Moore) to skate.

I have not read a political bio since Obama's Dreams of My Father.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:30 PM

6. There are two possiblities

 

and only two.

First, that more is known about Franken that he himself doesn't want to come out, so he is leaving pre-emptively.

Or second, that he's not the fighter we thought he was. Because he AGREED to go. He didn't have to, no matter what anyone else said.

Why the other Dems all piled on though is still a mystery. Whatever message they thought they were sending seems to have fallen flat.

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Response to Bibluca (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:35 PM

7. There is a third

Schumer sat Franken down and told him there will be no Committee participation and no future for him so he may as well resign.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:25 AM

26. Yes.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:43 AM

29. Yup.. very possible....

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Response to Bibluca (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:25 PM

8. or it's just another repuke hit job

 

fuck that shit

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Response to Bibluca (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:46 PM

11. He's been effectively fired. He CANNOT function in the Senate w/o the support...

He cannot function in the Senate w/o the support of his fellow Senators and the Democratic leadership. It's not possible.

It's a tightnit group. There are many committees, where they all work closely together. They meet each other daily to discuss things, talk over lunch, hash over things. They strategize, share information.

If the Senators give the cold shoulder to one Senator, he or she can't really do the job. He's been fired. ESPECIALLY if the leadership is in on it.

I think there will be a backlash over this. I know I won't forget it.

And trying to blame Franken for it is ludicrous. To respect the wishes of his co-Senators and the leadership does not make him weak. You don't fight your own team.

If there's anything else to come out...who knows. Doesn't matter, now. The issue is that it was IFFY enough to where he could be totally innocent. If he'd stayed, there WOULD HAVE BEEN more allegations, because that's what happens. They pile on. They probably would be more of the same...anonymous people, claiming vague things, with pictures that ironically don't SHOW those things...and on and on.

This has become a shark feeding frenzy. With the dull populace willing to believe even silly stories, now. This has gone too far.

We have lost one of the strongest, most popular, most articulate Senators...because of the weak Senators and leadership he worked with.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:09 PM

14. +10

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:55 AM

33. +100!

I have to agree.

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Response to Bibluca (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:09 AM

30. Remind me never to hire you as an intelligence analyst

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:39 PM

9. Yes, they did. And I, for one, will not forget it.

I have a list.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:49 PM

13. They allowed Franken to be swift boated

And they just handed his seat to Tim Pawlenty in 2018.

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Response to Generic Brad (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:37 PM

17. Exactly.

Rathered.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:14 PM

15. They sure did. 🤬 😓💔.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:25 PM

16. Franken 2020.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:08 PM

20. They wanted a high-profile scalp

 

I don't think they really cared who it belonged to, their actual culpability to or what the long-term consequences were.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:09 PM

21. K&R...

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:12 PM

23. But WAIT! There's MORE!

She and the Trumpspawn are old biddies.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029943676

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #23)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:10 AM

31. Shocking

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:34 AM

27. Sadly, they did.............BUT

now they kinda turned things on the RNC.....hey Hypocrite - you let your Alabama citizen's define your moral turpitude and let's let Minnesota decide Sen. Fraken's.....you explain your candidates pedophilia and we will let the citizens of Minnesota decide his Al's moral character. Run again Al! There is no lose/lose for Democrats here, in Congress, with the Rev. Senator Moore taking office.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 01:42 AM

28. Putting the tin foil on

 

What if our party has been infiltrated by Russian plants in order to sabotage from the inside? I'm suspecting it more and more every day

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Fri Dec 8, 2017, 02:17 AM

32. But the Democratic leadership now gets to polish their reputation...

...of "being at the forefront of rooting out sexual misconduct" (see the NYTimes' fawning portrait of Gillibrand in tomorrow's edition). Thus, they assume, strengthening their hold on the key demographic of women voters. (Recall that the persistent weakness of the Democratic Party in recent decades has been their wonkish reliance on demographics -- the notion that you can win by simply putting together a coalition of identity group blocs -- rather than ideological themes.)

The thing is, though, I've been noticing an interesting phenomenon today. Rather than the reaction to Franken's ouster running pretty much along gender lines, there's been a consistency of both male and female voices expressing outrage over how he was treated. In fact, I'd hazard a guess that I've seen more women upset at his apparent purge than men. If this is the case across the board, it would suggest that any hopes to cement the loyalties of politically-active women by this demonstration of "zero tolerance" may backfire badly.

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