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Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:38 PM

On The Way Out: The Truth About Racism Right Here....

It is a well-known fact, by the time this post is officially on the board, more likely than not, this post will be alerted on and removed - at that point our tenure on this forum will be done (if it's not in the planning as we write this).

However, at least one member asked us why we were leaving. For that member, we hope this post is allowed to stay up - at least for a little while.

1. The Al Franken v.s. John Conyers Saga

It was a crying shame to see individuals who claim they are Democrats attacking with an extreme level of disgust a person they did not know, an Elected Representative for over 53+, the author of the Martin Luther King Holiday Bill, H.R. 676 Medicare for All, a known Leader on Civil Rights, the ONLY candidate the Late Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King endorsed and now former Dean of the U.S. Congress, John Conyers.

One would think they knew former Representative Conyers on a personal basis, outside of the mass onslaught of questionable news reports and especially questionable for the accuser who was given a $27,000 severance package. We know the former Representative on a Professional basis and had never seen what was described ever.

Regardless, there were calls for him to resign, leave, go, get out and the like before he or his family could have a real discussion about due process. In fact, these calls begun while at 88-years-old, he was hospitalized for various health reasons.

The pile on around these parts by some posters were quite a thing to see. Some rumored without one bit of facts, the former Representative had dementia, was coming to local meetings in pajamas, did not deserve to be re-elected many times over and so many other things that one would have thought they lived in the 13th Congressional District in Michigan and had intimate knowledge of their rumors.

However, when we asked over and over for proof of their claims, none was EVER submitted. NONE. EVER. However, on this board, there is supposedly a rule that states Democrats are not attacked. This "Rule" is applied haphazardly at best and in the case of John Conyers Saga, was frankly non-existent.

So the question is why? Why was it non-existent? Some could claim it was the alleged harassment rumors. Others, playing on the fence of age discrimination could say the former Representative age or long tenure in the Congress. Or maybe they took a visit to Detroit, did not like it and projected those feelings on the John Conyers saga.

We are going to call it what it is IN OUR HUMBLE OPINION -- Racism.

The same racism that believes African-Americans are supposed to vote for Democrats but never call out Democrats when they believe they are wrong. The same racism that when some were calling for Due Process for John Conyers, others thought that was a joke, but had no problem demanding due process for Al Franken - who happens to be Caucasian.

It's transparent and easy to see from anyone that can understand anything about racial biases -- and yes, they exist right here at Democratic Underground.

Al Franken is now resigning by the end of 2017.

However, it was interesting to see the over 60 threads calling for folks to call Franken's office, email him, email any Democrat who asked for his resignation, threaten to cut off donations to the DNC and Tom Perez, question if DNC Chair Keith Ellison wanted Franken seat (which he is not getting by the way -- at this time without running for Election in 2018 for the seat), calls for Chuck Schumer to resign -- and other "Burn Down The House" type posts .....yet not many (if any) of these same posters joined the calls for Due Process for John Conyers -- or made 1 much less than 60+ threads to say John Conyers should have Due Process.

This was beyond, beyond transparent for us and when WE CALLED IT OUT --- amazingly we had our second post in the last week subject to a jury decision. Almost like Black Women calling out Caucasians on their blatant transparency is not allowed on Democratic Underground.

It appears it is not, as a group of posters (who amazingly have way over 20K+ posts, seem to hang around despite the obvious and engage in jury gang up when their racial biases are challenged) are allowed without question to stay on this forum.

We cannot control this as we don't own the forum or the server it sits upon.

However, on the way out, we will call out exactly what we see. And be sure to tell other African-American Democrats of what we saw are the real underlying tealeaves of SOME posters on this site.

They are -- if you are Black, don't dare call out any racist bias, no matter how obvious on Democratic Underground as SOME White People who claim to be Democrat, cannot deal or take the truth about who they might really be, from behind the safety of a keyboard and computer.

We're done.



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LovingA2andMI Dec 2017 OP
JustAnotherGen Dec 2017 #1
ismnotwasm Dec 2017 #2
hunter Dec 2017 #3
moondust Dec 2017 #4
MichMan Dec 2017 #8
Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #5
.99center Dec 2017 #6
Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #7

Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:40 PM

1. Oh

You must have noticed the African American Group members aren't really 'here' anymore. Hmmm . . . I just read the group to 'host' it now.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:46 PM

2. K&R

And, as an aside, and if I may, we are not much better with women’s “issues” here.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:20 PM

3. The U.S.A. is a racist apartheid nation that leans right-of-center.

A shocking number of white Democrats, people who consider themselves liberal, don't recognize that they are part of that racist center right, perhaps because their only frame of reference is to measure themselves against overtly racist and right wing Republicans.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:34 PM

4. Two factors.

Not saying I disagree but:

1. One case involves the closely divided Senate while the other involves a less critical House seat. Politics.

2. Conyers paid out a settlement which for some amounts to an admission of guilt.

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Response to moondust (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:03 PM

8. Conyers was accused by his own staff

Conyers was accused by several of his own staff members. They were assumed to be much more credible than random accusers as was alleged in Franken's case

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:38 PM

5. Who THE FUCK ARE 'WE'??? Oh and GROW THE FUCK UP.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:20 PM

6. Welcome to DU.

Stop insulting long time DUers and turn off the caps lock. Thanks.

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Response to .99center (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:23 PM

7. That wasn't an insult it was a description and I was not talking to you.

 

And don't tell me what to do. THANKS.

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