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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:19 PM

Do you want Al Franken to resign?

Given our current political situation, just about any other remedy would be better.

Have him do public appearances in a straightjacket or the Hannibal Lecter restraints.

Let his accusers throw tomatoes at him.

Give him a chaperone.

The Senate is too close. And even the things he's accused of pale in comparison to what Trump or Moore has done, and there doesn't seem to be any rush on the GOP side to show those guys the door.

I'm wondering how many people think his misdeeds merit giving the GOP an even clearer path to finish up their tax bill and damage they want to do to the rest of us.

And everyone in the Senate who is calling for Al to resign should promise to permanently do away with the filibuster when Democrats regain the Senate because they shouldn't be allowed to hide behind that if they think they can afford to throw seats away.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:19 PM

1. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:20 PM

2. no no no no no no no no no!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:20 PM

3. No.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:20 PM

4. see reply #1

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:20 PM

5. No!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:21 PM

6. Hell NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:21 PM

7. I want him to call out the useful idiots by name and then sit as an independent

 

He can choose down the road whether or not he wants to reconcile with future senate leadership.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

8. Absolutely NOT...

I'm sick of spineless Democrats who always ask me for money or support...and fail the Party at every turn.... ultimately failing everyone of us...

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

9. F**K NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

10. Not NO but HELL NO.............

This is Al being abusive and groping.......

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

11. You should set this up as a poll

oh, NO!!!


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Response to still_one (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:42 AM

201. I'm not a star member, but feel free to copy my post word for word and set one up.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #201)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:46 AM

205. I didn't realize you needed to be a star member to do that. Since I have your permission, I'll do

it, thanks

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

12. Freakin NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

13. Nope.

and leave tomatoes out of this!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:22 PM

14. No

It's ridiculous that so many here are calling for him to step down.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

15. Hell NO

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

16. Nope

but I'm sure we'll enjoy the moral high ground when we're getting screwed over by Ryan/McConnell.

They're all laughing at us, but we've got the moral high ground.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

17. No.

Something is fishy here.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

18. Damn I though this was a poll

No he shouldn't resign at least not yet. Do the damn investigation. If something more substantial than anonymous sources comes up then yes he should go.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

19. No!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:23 PM

20. The Dems who said Clinton focused too much on character are focusing

on character--just not on Trump's character.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:24 PM

21. im ready to send a fax to Cantwell and Murray.. my Senators... I want...

...trumps head for their decision but I do like the idea of demands. I want SOMETHING in return for my favorite person of all time being tarred and feathered for a far less act of impropriety than any one else accused...and the verdicts still out for me RE: Garrison Keillor...and I'm giving grandpa Bush a pass cuz hes the same age as my dad who once forgot to put on his pants.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:24 PM

22. No. But I'll support the decisions of those on the front lines.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:42 AM

200. I do not support bad decisions by anyone. In the beltway bubble, certain voices

may have a disproportionate impact.

They are our elected representatives not our masters. If they fuck up, they need to know it.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #200)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:31 PM

224. You'd support your own bad decisions, and I do believe

you've leaped to one in this case. None of us were sitting in on the intense discussions and strategy sessions, with presentations of facts and studies, that our party leaders did. I don't know a fraction of what I need to to make a decision on this, so you certainly cannot. And blowing hot air is not the same as thinking.

Fwiw, I see nothing wrong with displaying unhappiness or happiness as the case may be, at losing Franken. They should know that, including the female senators who started this.

Attacking our party instead of the Republicans who targeted Franken for attack, though, is in a distant galaxy of baaaad decisionmaking. Except for those who want to strengthen the GOP, of course.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #224)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:36 PM

225. your last paragraph would make sense if they weren't sawing off their nose to spite their face

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:26 PM

23. NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:27 PM

24. NOPE.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:28 PM

25. Hell NO

n/t

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:28 PM

26. No.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:29 PM

27. NOT JUST NO, FUCK NO!!!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:29 PM

28. Heck No.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:30 PM

29. NO F'ING WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:30 PM

30. Absolutely NOT!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:30 PM

31. Not really, no. nt

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:31 PM

32. No. Not without due process.

He asked for an investigation.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #32)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:33 PM

38. Ditto!

NOT. WITHOUT. DUE. PROCESS!!!

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #38)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:52 PM

51. That right if he were to go down at least do it right the American way!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:31 PM

33. No

I say let the ethics committee do its job, and then we'll see.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:31 PM

34. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Let the investigation play out!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:31 PM

35. NO

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:32 PM

36. no i want him to stay and fight

at this point I would like every senator that has called for his resignation to grow a spine

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:33 PM

37. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:35 PM

39. Not before the Senate investigation is complete.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:35 PM

40. NO.

NO.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:35 PM

41. No.

Shame on us if we let him go.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:36 PM

42. No

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:36 PM

43. HELL NO!!!!

I am sick and tired of the Democratic Party constantly acting against their own best interests. They want to shove Al Franken out of the Senate based upon unsubstantiated allegations. What happened to innocent before proven guilty?

If they succeed in shoving him out of the Senate that will be the last straw as far as I am concerned.

It is really sad that the only hope that we have is that Mueller will be able to do something about the Trump/Republican crime family. I most certainly don't believe that we can rely upon the Democrats. They are too busy self destructing.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:36 PM

44. hell no

hell no

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:37 PM

45. No

anonymous accusers are B.S.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:38 PM

46. No. NO.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:38 PM

47. oh Hell NO

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:40 PM

48. No, please Al, don't!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:40 PM

49. He should NOT resign!

We need him. The fact is, if every politician, entertainer, public figure, etc. was 'fired" for using their power to intimidate, there would be nobody left. I do not condone mistreatment of females - being female myself and having experienced it throughout my life, as most women probably have in one way or another. However, this is just a witch hunt. They are LOVING the fact that the pressure is on for Al to step down because they FEAR him.

The SNL days were full of sex, drugs and rock and roll. Everyone knows it. It does not excuse it but then again, he didn't know he would be a senator one day either. I don't know why we aren't doing what we can to support him - do what THEY do - have him go to sex rehab and "pray for forgiveness" - it seems to work for the GOP, right? Or just deny it happened, like they do.

He is one of our best, politically. Losing him is a huge loss for us.

I'm so mad at my party right now i could scream. FIGHT DAMMIT FIGHT. Stop rolling over and watching while our country is being destroyed! You can't win a knife fight with a banana democrats. You are FIGHTING FOR OUR LIVES - get busy!!!

Stop asking for my money when I don't see you doing anything with it. Ask for my time and talents to help organize and get ready for 2018. I do not get one call asking for me to volunteer, just to give money that will be matched. This is about more than money - we need people and energy. MONEY IS THE PROBLEM.

<crying> we need B.O. ... i miss him so much...

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:47 PM

50. Absolutely NOT!

Fuck this! I expect the republicans to call for him to resign, but I am absolutely disgusted by the Democrats who are jumping on the bandwagon when there is NO PROOF! Wait until there has been a thorough investigation, at the very least! I am so sick of our spineless "so called" leaders. It's hard to keep fighting for a party that won't fight for itself.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:52 PM

52. Hell no!

 

A more important question is why are the Lynch Mob Senators trying to avoid an investigation?

Why aren't they asking for Trump's resignation?

Why aren't they speaking up to the Re;publlican hate machine and calling them out on this set-up?

It's politics. And it is cowardice.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:53 PM

54. Hell no

All the women worked with him say he's an honorable man. None of the other harrassers can say the same, dems or repubs. This is bogus, and we shouldn't be lying down for it.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:55 PM

55. No, a thousand times, no!

n/t

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:55 PM

56. NO infinity

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:55 PM

57. Fight this right wing hit job!!! Do the investigation!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:56 PM

58. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:56 PM

59. no

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:56 PM

60. Yes....

Along with 26 of his colleagues in the Senate, including the Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:56 PM

61. No no no!

I want a investigation a honest one. I think he is being railroaded out.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:59 PM

62. No, this would be self defeating and insane

And the attacks on him and calls for his resignation have very little to do with the accusations of sexual impropriety.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:59 PM

63. a thousand times NO!!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:59 PM

64. NEGATIVE

 

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:59 PM

65. No

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:01 PM

66. No, face the Ethics Committee

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #66)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:31 PM

89. Absolutely. Let them do their job.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:01 PM

67. Aw hell naw

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:03 PM

68. NO! nt

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:08 PM

69. NO WAY!!!

Somehow I see the R's hands behind these women!! Al has been a thorn in their side and if they can rid of him, that would be fantastic!!
If, the first one hadn't worked for FOX and also the fact that the photographer taking that picture said she was in on it, gives me pause to now believe any of them.
Plus if they allow Perv Moore to join them in the Senate, than how dare anyone, ask anyone else to leave. IMO!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:09 PM

70. No

No

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:13 PM

71. If we can guarantee Keith Ellison, and also Doug Jones over Roy Moore

 

This is a sticky issue (really bad pun), but let's check and see what type of lemonade we can make out of this. I'm looking at this from the perspective of how we can increase the overall advantage of the Democratic Party, particularly its progressive Senate presence.

1. Even if Franken stays in, his effectiveness will be highly diminished. He's already being taken off committees, and it will not be too easy for him to remain an effective force for the progressive movement, or even represent the state of Minnesota.

2. Also, if he stays in until his term ends in 2020, the race will be conflated with the presidential election for most likely Democratic presidential nominee and general election winner Kamala Harris. As a wounded incumbant, it will inflame the conservative minions and risk losing both the senate seat and the presidential electoral votes.

3. Therefore, his resignation makes sense. WE CAN TURN THIS TO OUR ADVANTAGE.

4. In Minnesota, the governor is tasked with appointing a senator if the current senator has to leave office for any reason. As the appointment is only valid until the next election cycle, it is an executive decision that needs no legislative nor constitutent input.

5. Ideally, he will appoint Keith Ellison, DNC second-in-command and would make him the most highly-placed Muslim in the US Government, as well as a strong progressive. Finally, he's relatively young at age 54, so he can remain for a long time.

6. As someone who has already been in Congress for over 10 years in the House, Ellison has established roots and contacts all throughout the beltway.

7. In 2018, Ellison would have to run in a special election to fill out the remaining 2-year term. If he's been in office for a year, he will have established his campaign contacts and be able to run an effective campaign. Now, the OTHER senate seat, held by Amy Klobuchar, will be holding it's regularly-scheduled senate election for the full 6-year term. With both Ellison and Klobuchar running, this will provide a UNIQUE advantage to BOTH candidates in terms of messaging and Democratic turnout. Finally, as a mid-term election cycle, there will be no distracting presidential race to gum up the works.

8. In this case, Ellison will be fully expected to win (as well Klobucher) and maintain the Franken seat. With a senate election victory, Ellison will solidify his campaign contribution network, and he will be ideally set up in 2020 when he runs for the full 6-year seat.

Sweet lemonade from a sour GOP-pushed lemon.

The bottom line: It sucks GOP balls that the GOP is hypocritically forcing the negation of Franken's influence, even though his "crime" is not even in the same ballpark as Moore's sexual molestation and exploitation of a child. Thank god Doug Jones will win (we have a very nasty surprise for Molester Moore this coming Sunday, watch and fume). But by replacing Franken with Ellison, we will actually make it much easier for Ellison to become senator and to maintain a progressive lockhold on the senate seat for another generation.

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Response to Fluke a Snooker (Reply #71)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:30 PM

87. Not getting ahead of Franken....Yet...Let's See If He Does The Right Thing First....

And #Resigns -- Then, the discussion on if DNC Deputy Chair Keith Ellison should be appointed by Gov. Mark Dayton, can be indeed had.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #87)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:30 AM

218. Fair enough

 

As someone who plays the long game (for instance, the transformation of the United States into a progressive democracy working in conjunction with a globalist anti-capitalist agenda), I am always two steps ahead of the GOP huns.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:15 PM

72. Hell No.

 

Stop the railroad now and concentrate on Trump and Moore's actual sexual assault rather than Franken's so called "Groping"...embracing a fan for a picture.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:17 PM

73. Hell, no! Did the party learn anything about purity politics from last year's presidential election?

Apparently the Democrats for Roger Stone, led by Senator Gillibrand, did not.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:22 PM

74. No.

NO!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:23 PM

75. Fuck no.

I still think it smells like a ratfucking.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:23 PM

76. Nope.

Not until Donald does.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:24 PM

77. NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:26 PM

78. No!

 

He is doing our country good. I don't live in Minnesota but I called to give him my support. I have written him as well. He should NOT resign. Not at all!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:26 PM

79. NO n/t

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:26 PM

80. NO!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:27 PM

81. Negatory, good buddy

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:27 PM

82. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

NO! NO! NO! NO!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:28 PM

83. No and Hell No.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:29 PM

84. Hell no

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:29 PM

85. No!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:30 PM

86. Hell NO!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:31 PM

88. Of course not

I want him to go back in time and keep his hands and lips to himself. I want him to stop assuming that just because he's rich and famous and powerful and SOME women want him, that he can assume that EVERY woman wants him.

Not having that option and becoming convinced that eight is almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg (along with the near certainty that backing him gives Moore a win)... YES, he should resign.

I'm wondering how many people think his misdeeds merit giving the GOP an even clearer path to finish up their tax bill

I don't see how anyone can draw that conclusion. There's little chance of losing his seat if he resigns now and there's little chance of winning the Alabama race if he isn't forced out. That's just the opposite of giving the GOP their tax bill.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #88)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:45 AM

204. Al is a powerful voice in the senate AND one of a handful respect by both wings of party

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Response to yurbud (Reply #204)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:51 AM

209. The first half of that is obvious

(Though it should be irrelevant)

The second does not appear to be true.

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Response to FBaggins (Reply #209)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:54 PM

222. Because the centrists are bailing?

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Response to yurbud (Reply #222)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:00 PM

223. "Centrists" ?

An odd label for many who have called for him to resign.

Markey is a centrist now? Warren? Brown? Sanders?

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:31 PM

90. I would like to know what the people of Minnesota think.

Personally, I say HELL NO. This is a set-up and McConnell's comments solidify that point. He wants to let the voters of Alabama decide, but not the voters of Minnesota?

I call BS.

But, I think Al needs to see a strong show of support from the people of Minnesota that elected him.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #90)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:12 PM

114. I'm a Minnesotan and I say hell no!

I've emailed and telephoned to say, "DO NOT RESIGN!"

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:31 PM

91. Hell to the naw!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:32 PM

92. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:33 PM

93. No, beacuse...

...something seems "off" about the entire Franken scandal, from the very beginning. he has stated the recent woman claiming an unwanted kiss is not accurate. then, someone claimed he groped her waist? Franken probably asked for hundreds of photos and put his arms around the waist or shoulders of people - it's not sexual, it's acknowledging someone who likes you enough to want a photo - and they are the first to want the physical touch.

We really need to hear more... and it's possible those asking for him to resign know more than we do... but, I'm just going on what we have revealed, now. I would let the ethics committee do their job. It seems, to me, something is askew...

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:34 PM

94. Only if Trump resigns.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:34 PM

95. NO NO NO NO NO NO

Franken should absolutely not resign... there should be an ethics investigation and he should have his right to face his accusers and the facts brought out. I don’t believe this should be a case of resignation under pressure. I think the moral equivalency being painted here between what Trump or Roy Moore or John conyers or DONAlD TRUMP is Night and day! If he resigns he doesn’t have the opportunity to speak and bring out what happened.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:34 PM

96. NOPE.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:35 PM

97. Fucking NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:38 PM

98. No!!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:38 PM

99. liz warren, mitch mcconnel, donald trump and kirsti gillibrand agree, al must go without

any due process whatsoever

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:39 PM

100. No....if annoymous accusers can do this...

of the two or more pictures out there none show anything. Its peculiar that most have almost matching stories. Its also peculiar when addition pictures taken of the USO period, the alleged victims also participated is some pretty risque pictures. I want to hear more of the story, which the Senate inquiry would have.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:39 PM

101. No

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:40 PM

102. no

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:40 PM

103. No.

Especially if that scumsucker Moore gets seated.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:43 PM

104. No!!! I just emailed him to stick out the investigation not be railroaded.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:43 PM

105. NO.

The investigation is not complete. This is bullshit.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:45 PM

106. Only he knows the answer. If he is guilty he should resign. If not he should fight. Nt

 

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:46 PM

107. No, absolutely not!

The bar is set waayy too high for Franken in light
of the clear guilt of Trump, Moore, and his supporters.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:50 PM

108. WTF GD NO 🛑

What he is accused of is mild in comparison to other offenders. I want an investigation.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:53 PM

109. Hell no!!

What happened to due process. Why do democrats always fall for this shit?

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:53 PM

110. No!

Absolutely not.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:00 PM

111. No.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:03 PM

112. No!

Just.....no.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:08 PM

113. Oh hell no!!! Absolutely not!!!! nt

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:33 PM

115. No. I think that ethics investigation was a better idea

No, I don’t think Senator Franken should resign before an ethics investigation.

Maybe his hands went out of bounds, maybe they didn’t; but in these sorry times of rife lying and rat-f*ckery, I see no reason why we Democrats should rush to judgement.

BTW I am seething in anger.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:38 PM

116. No no no and no

This is a right wing hit job.

I like Tina Dupree but sometimes when you’re happy you do stupid things. I hit a guys ass once in jest and he wasn’t happy and I apologized. So am I a sexual harasser?

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:39 PM

117. Absolutely fricken NO

till the ethics committee investigation is completed. Due process is becoming an endangered process and I won't do anything to hasten its demise.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:39 PM

118. If he goes through an ethics inquiry and the charges are found to have merit

 

Yep.

Short of that Hell no!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:40 PM

119. I want Roy Moore to drop out of the race, and I want Trump to resign

When those two things happen, *THEN* we'll talk about Franken and not before

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:41 PM

120. Hell NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:41 PM

121. No.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:41 PM

122. Oh hell no!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:44 PM

123. NO!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:48 PM

124. NO!!! And the Democrats shouldn't be calling for him to resign either.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:52 PM

125. NO!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:53 PM

126. NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:54 PM

127. No.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:55 PM

129. He has to!

He fucked up! Toast!

I feel sorriest for his wife and daughter. This will be incredibly hard for them.

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Response to VMA131Marine (Reply #129)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:10 AM

216. Why does fucking up mean you're toast? I guess you wouldn't know,

because you've never fucked up. Oh! Right! If you fuck up in any way having to do with the relations between the sexes, then, of course you're toast and should lose your job. And maybe open a chance for another Republican in Congress to continue to destroy the planet, erase totally any hope for the poor.
Say good bye to income equality... Sorry, I forgot.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:55 PM

130. Absolutely not nt

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:57 PM

131. NO. Let the investigation play out. nt

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:58 PM

132. No freaking way!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:58 PM

133. HELL NO! n/t

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Response to il_lilac (Reply #133)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:29 AM

198. Ditto

Plain ol' NO ain't good enough!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:00 PM

134. NO!

Stand strong!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:00 PM

135. Fuck no. And no.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:00 PM

136. Fucking hell no!!!!

This is a Bannon hit job and I want to kick that racist motherfucker's ass to the curb! He should be dragged off to Supermax for his fucking crimes!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:01 PM

137. No. Never. Al Franken rocks.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:02 PM

138. I want the ethics investigation. I want all branches of government treated the same way

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Treated the same way when accusations arise....no back door settlements, no sweeping under the rug, no gotcha questions and answers. Just the facts. Out in the open.

I want a public discussion on what currently is considered harassment/sexual harassment. Once Congress figures out what it is, if it applies to Congresspeople, it should also apply in the public sector. It should be a civil right to be protected from such harassment.

That will never happen.

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #138)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:46 AM

175. +1

I want an ethics investigation to establish the facts and then a reasoned decision on whether Franken should resign or not.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:02 PM

139. NO HE SHOULD NOT RESIGN !!!!

NO HE SHOULD NOT RESIGN !!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:04 PM

140. Absolutely NOT.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:05 PM

141. No.

Unless he grabbed private parts, I am opposed to him resigning.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:06 PM

142. No

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:08 PM

143. No.

Not with out an investigation.

Having said that the number of Dems who are calling for his resignation gives me pause. I hate to think that Warren / Sanders would call for his resignation based solely on the allegations in order to be perceived as the “we go high when they go low” BS. If this is the case than the Democratic Party is more spineless now than it has ever been and at the worst possible time. I want to believe that they would call for his resignation because there is more to this than we know and IF Franken does resign tomorrow it is save the embarrassment of an investigation. Either way this completely and totally sucks and is a total gut punch. Republicans have a president who is on tape saying the things he said as well as a potential traitor...and a pedophile who is most likely going to win a senate seat from Alabama...and the Dems are being forced to resign. It is surreal.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:09 PM

144. I think its a good move for the party at this point.

 

I see two option. He resigns or says he won’t seek re-election and fully cooperates with an ethics investigation. Its politics. If he looks good after the investigation he can run again. He wouldn’t lose a thing.

I’m still good with a resignation. It’s taken on a life of its own.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:10 PM

145. I dunno, I trust Warren, I like Harris and

Over thirty of our Senators are apparently on the same page. We have to trust our leaders, I can't believe it's all just a knee jerk reaction.

Most of all, I want Franken to follow his conscience. He's really the only one with all the information.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:11 PM

146. Fuck no. I ain't fuckin' stupid. (n/t)

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:11 PM

147. Hell no.

 

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:12 PM

148. No!!!!! N/t

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:13 PM

149. NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:17 PM

150. Never!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:17 PM

151. No and hell no!!!!!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:19 PM

152. I think if Dem Senators succeed in forcing Franken out . . .

Their intellectual and ethical credibility is in question, and their ability to govern is as suspect as Donald Trump's.

Republicans will think (rightfully) that Democrats can be easily stampeded if you can find the right hot button, and they will continue pressing that button on other Dems until it stops working. The American people will see Dems as weak-kneed and unprincipled.

This is a disaster, the only solution for which is Franken to refuse to resign.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:19 PM

153. I don't think he should resign. I want him in the Senate.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:20 PM

154. I want the people WhO want Franken to resign to resign! Nm

 

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:21 PM

155. Nope.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:21 PM

156. Do I want him to, no...

But does he have to, I'm afraid, yes. The women are right. It's right thing to do at this point both morally and politically. Reports say his seat will likely go to Dem Lt Gov, a woman.

Don't get me wrong, I hate loosing his voice, but big picture, the damn has broken, and too many of his democratic senate colleagues have now called for his resignation for him to reasonably not acquiesce.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:21 PM

157. NO

get trump out and that stupid pedophile Moore out.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:22 PM

158. NO

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:22 PM

159. No. Hell No. Never.

The names I don't see here don't surprise me. There has to be shit before it can be stirred.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:22 PM

160. NO!!!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:27 PM

161. If what has been made public so far is it, no.

But if he (and possibly the Dems pressing for his resignation) know there is more out there, it may make sense.

Conyers? Yes, he needed to step down.

I do *not* subscribe to the idea that Republicans won’t hold their politicians to account- why should we? These are serious issues and more important than party. Sexual harassment, abuse, and rape have been swept under the rug for far too long. But does what Franken’s accused of warrant resignation? I would say no. I do want my party to do the right thing. Harassers should not get a pass because it’s politically convenient.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:28 PM

162. Hell, No!

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:29 PM

163. No. Nt

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:31 PM

164. NO NO NO AND !

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:34 PM

165. Definitely not!! Hes one of our smartest guys and very effective.

That’s why they want him gone.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 10:49 PM

166. Hell no

and I just found out that my two Dem Senators from RI what him out too. Needless to say I just left both a messages on their voicemail.

Shit, do not step down Senator Franken this is a set up.

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:49 PM

167. No,no,no....... eom

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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:52 PM

168. No. At least, not now. nt

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Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:22 AM

169. No

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Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:30 AM

170. No

He is being swiftboated.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:32 AM

171. Absolutely NOT

The decromats calling for his resignation are putting the final nail in the coffin of this country.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:33 AM

172. Nope

I feel an ethics investigation may find little substance to these claims. We know the first one was very trivial, and most of the rest have been anonymous. Needs a fair hearing.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:33 AM

173. Yes

This will seem callous to some, but I have no emotion and no loyalty when it comes to candidates I support. If you're not viable going forward, I'll find someone who is. I've supported Franken in the past, and I respect what he's done as a Senator, but the growing number of accusations, and the lack of a clear denial, has tainted his future prospects, which is why the DNC Chair and a majority of Democratic Senators have called for him to step down in favor of an equally progressive Minnesota Democrat.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #173)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:23 AM

184. I am sort of like you.

I will go the limit and beyond for a solid Democrat. But if I get one wiff of a sustained odor that says that person will hurt the party if he or she stays in office, my shiv come out fast.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:36 AM

174. NO! He's being swiftboated and his Dem colleagues are too worried about '18

That's what this is all about. They probably know that this is a hit job but don't want to have to defend him while trying to get back house and senate. Well, if Franken resigns, it will open the floodgates of other Democrats being anonymously accused because the people who are behind this will see that it works.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:52 AM

176. Only if the Fascist steaming load goes first

So no

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:55 AM

177. Eight victims. nt

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #177)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:45 AM

186. Really? I dont believe them.

And I won’t be women shamed into supporting them just because they have vaginias like me.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:56 AM

178. No!!!

No!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:59 AM

179. Nyet.

That's pig-latin for NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:59 AM

180. I think he should resign


Some of the anonymous accusers are cited by journalists as being Democrats. I don't think what he's accused of doing is that bad, but I'm a guy. I believe the accusers though, and there are many out there.
Part of winning in politics is appealing to independents. I think this Franken thing turns off people who don't pay much attention to politics.
That his replacement would be a Democrat makes the loss tolerable IMO.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #180)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:47 AM

187. I am turning away from this party and becoming an Independent because of this

Democratic bullshit. This move doesn’t appeal to me.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:05 AM

181. For what exactly?

For the sake of roger stone? Fuck this nonsense.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:10 AM

182. NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:16 AM

183. Yes, absolutely.

Too many women have stepped forward, several are strong Democrats. We can't get into looking the other way for one of our own.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #183)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:50 AM

188. I dont believe them.

And, I heard it was 1 angry Dem. Not several. And, if they are anonymous, how would you know who they are?

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Response to wisteria (Reply #188)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:25 AM

217. Two were Democratic field volunteers and one worked for a Dem Rep.

If you took time to have read the first stories when they came forward, you would know that. Franken has a problem, I refuse to put blinders on while he stays and damages the Democratic Party. To hell with Roy Moore, if republicans bring him to Washington, they are immoral fools and that will ultimately destroy them.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:43 AM

185. A No here.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:50 AM

189. NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:13 AM

190. No, not even for a minute.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:16 AM

191. HELL NO!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:21 AM

192. At this point, yes

And I say that as a Franken fan since the days of Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot. The sheer number of accusations makes me believe that the guy is probably inappropriate around women, but the real indictment against him is that he seems incapable of defending himself. His wishy-washy half-apologies and vague statements and inability to categorically deny anything mean that, on a purely tactical level, he's a liability. That's the real reason Senate Dems are cutting him loose. A senator with a never-ending stream of accusers who isn't able to defend himself is a distraction the party doesn't need.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #192)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:56 AM

211. Congratulations. It's now open season on any Democrat.

 

All the GOP has to do is produce a "never-ending" stream of accusers (actually seven dubious ones, and none recent) to create a "distraction" that will make any Democrat a tactical liability. Who cares if it's true or not? It's a "distraction" that we must get rid of. Rinse, lather and repeat.

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Response to Demit (Reply #211)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:00 PM

220. That's not what I said

Assuming this is all "GOP manufactured," why the hell has Franken not called it out as such since day one? Why has there been no pushback from him? If the GOP has the ability to invent an endless stream of accusers, do you really want someone representing us who only knows how to respond to their attacks by hiding and issuing half-apologies?

Franken has handled this in the worst way possible.

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Response to Azathoth (Reply #220)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:43 PM

221. Because "day 1" was a photo that was real, even as the description of it was a lie.

 

He immediately acknowledged the photo & apologized for the crass humor of it. He DID deny her accusation about the kiss, and her third accusation was revealed by others to be a provable lie so why would he respond?

He didn't have to deny that he "stalked" the radio host because it came out that that accusation was a deliberate mischaracterization.

He denied categorically the accusation about trying to kiss the anonymous woman and he denied saying "it's my right as an entertainer."

This last accusation—that having put his arm around the waist of the woman who asked him to take a picture with her was him "copping a feel"—is so absurd as to be unanswerable. In my view. But I suppose you would know exactly how you would respond effectively to a charge that is ridiculous on its face.

But it doesn't matter now. It was "his turn in the barrel" as Roger Stone said, just before day 1, and we can only sit back and wait for whose turn it will be next. Maybe they'll handle it better, in exactly the way you think they should.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 04:33 AM

193. No No No - want him to stay

I will so have his back.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:03 AM

194. No

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:21 AM

195. NO! nt

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:35 AM

196. Nyet, nyet, nyet.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 08:46 AM

197. NO.......................................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a ploy...and who knows if they will seat a replacement?

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:37 AM

199. NO...NO WAY!!!!!!!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:43 AM

202. NO

He apologized. Trump never did

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:44 AM

203. no

and I will have to rethink my planned contributions to the Democratic party for the next year if he is forced out.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:49 AM

206. NO!! A thousand times NO!!

If he does:

BREAKING: Democrats are weak! They will turn on you for political advantage. Democrats would rather eat their own than call Republicans out on their hypocricy. They don't believe in due process. Candidates with a backbone need not apply. Your colleagues will drop you when the Republicans turn the heat up on you.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:49 AM

207. Franken needs to stay in the Senate

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:49 AM

208. NO.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:52 AM

210. It's funny that some chew my ass for not saying we should blindly support EVERY Democrat

in other posts, but here when I say Al is too critical to lose without due process, a fair number of people don't seem to care about the consequences of losing him.

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Response to yurbud (Reply #210)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:05 AM

213. They seem to think any cookie-cutter Dem will do.

 

As if the only thing senators do is vote. Franken was SO GOOD on committee panels. He didn't posture & bloviate. I could actually FOLLOW a question of his—he wasn't testifying for 5 minutes while he asked it— and it always zeroed in on a key point. Now that's gone.

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:57 AM

212. No

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:07 AM

214. Hell NO

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:07 AM

215. No!

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Response to yurbud (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:45 AM

219. Franken

I thank the senators we want Franken to resign "judging" from the posts are out of touch with the base.

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Response to 110liberal (Reply #219)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:37 PM

226. It makes me wonder how much they actually care about what the Republicans are doing

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