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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:40 PM

If this shit I'm reading here regarding Franken is correct

being pushed out by Schumer, Gillibrand etc. I'm done , seriously done. We have fucking killed ourselves and our chance to win an election ever again.

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Reply If this shit I'm reading here regarding Franken is correct (Original post)
kacekwl Dec 2017 OP
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #1
lunamagica Dec 2017 #3
kacekwl Dec 2017 #9
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #11
lunamagica Dec 2017 #13
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #14
lunamagica Dec 2017 #15
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #16
RandomAccess Dec 2017 #20
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #24
ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #31
FarPoint Dec 2017 #6
Bengus81 Dec 2017 #17
Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2017 #27
PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2017 #7
lame54 Dec 2017 #36
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #41
FarPoint Dec 2017 #2
Renew Deal Dec 2017 #4
Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #5
GulfCoast66 Dec 2017 #22
spotthebird Dec 2017 #32
Nevernose Dec 2017 #40
Nevernose Dec 2017 #8
lostnfound Dec 2017 #39
RandiFan1290 Dec 2017 #10
Egnever Dec 2017 #35
GentryDixon Dec 2017 #12
Bengus81 Dec 2017 #19
FarPoint Dec 2017 #28
GentryDixon Dec 2017 #29
FarPoint Dec 2017 #34
RiverStone Dec 2017 #37
Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2017 #18
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #21
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #23
LisaL Dec 2017 #25
Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #26
CK_John Dec 2017 #30
Puzzledtraveller Dec 2017 #33
Alea Dec 2017 #38
Orsino Dec 2017 #42

Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:44 PM

1. Is it possible they have more info than we do?

Something is going on behind the scenes, that much we know.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:45 PM

3. Why not let the investigation play out?

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:50 PM

9. Why not exactly.

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:55 PM

11. That is what I wanted, but he resigned instead.

And made apologies. So he is on a different page then most of us.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:58 PM

13. He hasn't resigned yet. He asked for the investigation. And he is bring pressured

by our side ro resign. Why don't they want the investigation to proceed?

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:02 PM

14. I would think if an investigation clears him, they would want one. nt

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:04 PM

15. It should happen regardless. Pressuring him to step down without an investigation

sets a bad, dangerous precedent.

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Response to lunamagica (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:07 PM

16. If they have more information, then they should inform us. nt

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:26 PM

20. No he didn't.

 

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:38 PM

24. True. We are jumping the gun. nt

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:39 PM

31. NO you jumped the gun

YOU said he resigned and he has not. Who is the WE you mention?

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:48 PM

6. It is a weak, milktoast plan

Think that if they clean house, GOP will also follow path...Democrats can say...see, we did it...If they don't, then this will be a campaign confrontation issue to gain 2018 control....I find it a weak hand and a blind roll of the dice.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:12 PM

17. That's been my theory too--and it's PATENTLY ridiculous....

If they are so STUPID as to think that if Franken steps down the CONS will demand that Moore halts his campaign then they are as stupid as they look.

Bannon and O'keefe are laughing their ASSESS off on how easy this operation was.

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:50 PM

27. If they actually believe that, Jared Kushner's got a building at 666 5th Avenue

to sell them.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:48 PM

7. I will call bullshit on that.

"I know something you don't know" is a child's taunt.

And I realize you're not claiming to know something, but suggesting the Senators forcing Franken out really do know something they're keeping quiet strikes me as highly improbable.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:28 PM

36. Then it's a bad play to leave it there

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Response to lame54 (Reply #36)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:09 AM

41. I agree, it has been handled badly. nt

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:45 PM

2. I'm done fighting too...

The relationship between Congressional Democrats and their grassroots backbone supporters has hit the wall.. ....over...I am done...Yea..done

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:46 PM

4. I think they know he will resign

So today is everyone's chance to call for his resignation. It's staged

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:46 PM

5. Franken is a threat to Schumer and his leadership.

The Progressives have touted Al as Presidential Timber. Secondly,there is a faction that hates Al from his Air America Days.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:36 PM

22. Yeah, that

Oh, and the sexual harassment

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:46 PM

32. He grabbed a woman's waist! Where is the Taliban when you need 'em!

Where is the actual evidence of credibility of the claims.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #22)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:12 PM

40. Those women he didnt kiss?

Those women he didn’t kiss? Don’t forget the “he didn’t kiss me but he wanted to” sexual harassment. He’s been accused of NOT kissing someone. Twice. When coupled with the “he put his hand around my waist when we took a picture” assault.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:49 PM

8. Senator Gillibrand groped and kissed me

She didn’t actually kiss me, but I could tell she wanted to. And when we shook hands that time, she squeezed, which is clearly groping (according to The Atlantic).

She should step down.

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Response to Nevernose (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 09:07 PM

39. +1 nt

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:52 PM

10. They want their tax cuts. nt

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:27 PM

35. Sadly I am beginning to believe this is exactly it

 

They put on a show of fighting against it one day in the senate and turned right back to talking about peepees.

The week this bill is going to be rammed through this is their focus?

Seriously?

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 05:56 PM

12. I just unsubscribed from the DNC

and told them the same thing. These weak kneed Dems need to learn to fight for our party instead of giving in to the right wing media machine.

Let the Ethics Committee finish their investigation. I'm too old for this shit, but feel like I need to speak up. And I am a female who worked in an environment of male dominance. Let the true facts out. Don't throw our members overboard until we know the true facts. What Sen Franken has admitted to seems nothing other than comedic horseplay. Let's find out from the "anonymous" women when discovery comes about. If it proves out, then it will time for the Senator to go.



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Response to GentryDixon (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:14 PM

19. +100000

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Response to GentryDixon (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:54 PM

28. I want to do that too..

Could not find an unsubscribe area...Any tips?

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #28)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:28 PM

29. It's at the bottom of the email I got about Doug Jones poll.

I have sent money to Doug Jones through his website. I have not supported Dem candidates through the DNC since Debbie Wasserman-Schultz leadership. That way I choose who my support goes to.

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Response to GentryDixon (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:24 PM

34. Okay...

I didn't see it earlier.

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Response to GentryDixon (Reply #12)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:35 PM

37. Well said!! Agree n/t

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:14 PM

18. I'm not far behind you, I see no way forward

 

I give up. I have donated my last dollar, I have worked on my last campaign.

Our leadership in the house and senate is bankrupt, our presidential stable is full of people with little prospect of performing better electorally than Clinton did in 2016 and our only manifest strategy is waiting for the Republicans to self-destruct.

It's going to take a generation to recover from the rout that is coming.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:31 PM

21. Tut, tut.

Mustn't speak ill of a Democrat(s) around here.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:38 PM

23. If he resigns, he needs to tell us why.

Was he railroaded into it, or does he have personal reasons for resigning.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #23)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:39 PM

25. More than half of senate democrats are calling on him to resign.

So that makes it really hard to figure out why he would resign.
I mean, I just can't understand why he would resign when his own party is demanding he does so.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 06:41 PM

26. So you think he is being railroaded, and this is not his decision?

I don't know the answer to that question.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 07:37 PM

30. Sen Franken should have publicly supported "UBI".

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:14 PM

33. I think they are afraid.

Appeasing some middle ground they think will love them for it. Pelosi just this afternoon in response to the impeachment brought to a vote by house Democrats says now is not the time. So you see, now is never the time to make a stand, not against Trump, and not in support of Franken.

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 08:44 PM

38. I'm blown away by all of this

My hope, it happening now might be better than right before the 2018 Elections. I don't know though. I don't know anything anymore. Maybe I never did : (

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Response to kacekwl (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 09:50 AM

42. We have rationalized anti-choice votes and stances by Dems before...

...and have always expected women on our side to fall in line with the party. Always by sacrificing their human dignity and rights. Always, always, always.

Let's not do that anymore, I say. Let's sacrifice political advantage to try to do right.

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